Toni Zamboni Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 2 hours ago, RonMexico said: Maybe they will make a new arena in the shape of a 10 gallon hat. 1 hour ago, Mackcanuck said: 40 litres 1 hour ago, Shift-4 said: Pringles potato chip 1 hour ago, SilentSam said: Donald Trumps hair weave. or Mrs Garret's bosom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Just now, Toni Zamboni said: or Mrs Garret's bosom. LMAO ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Mr Bettman ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poetica Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 How about the NHL and/or franchise owners start paying for their arenas instead of getting tax payers to pay for it but give them all of the profits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nux4lyfe Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Doesn't Calgary need to upgrade....Everything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustapha Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 I think there's value in renovating the current arena as opposed to a whole new arena. That building has a lot of Flames history, and I think it's in a great location. I think there is a legit qualm with concerts, there is an issue installing sound equipment in that arena due to the ceiling IIRC. That said, this is not a good economic climate for Calgary right now considering the oil sector job cuts. The way I see it, if you have to spend 900 million every ~30 years on a new arena, why not put that money into a building which has been a huge part of Calgary's NHL (and Olympic) legacy? I love watching hockey in the Saddledome, it's one of my favourite NHL arenas, and I have been to several. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.DirtyDangles Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Bettman is beyond moronic. Just came from the Saddledome. Excellent arena to view an NHL game in especially after the internal facelift. Great site altogether . 15 bucks for parking and a deadly event staff. The Calgary Next propsal is a great idea but they will be hard pressed to put that sports complex where they want. Going to be years before that area is cleaned up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmonberries Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 I didn't realize the commissioner had grown a beard. Very stylish I must say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 It’s no secret that Calgary is in need of a new rink. I really don’t see what Nenshi’s problem is, a facility like the one proposed is a huge asset to the city, not just Murray Edwards. I don’t see how people can’t understand that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyLuciano Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 2 minutes ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: It’s no secret that Calgary is in need of a new rink. I really don’t see what Nenshi’s problem is, a facility like the one proposed is a huge asset to the city, not just Murray Edwards. I don’t see how people can’t understand that. Economic downturn, YYC real estate market on verge of crashing, bankruptcy filings, crime rates on the rise etc. Just bad timing to be asking tax payers to front the bill for private profits. Saddledome is fine, the only problem is lack of washrooms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
420since1974 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Too many major musical concerts passing by Calgary because of the Saddledome's current roof structure. Nenshi has stated he wants the Winter Olympics back in Calgary, perhaps this is his way of trying to get federal dollars invested in the project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 13 minutes ago, LuckyLuciano said: Economic downturn, YYC real estate market on verge of crashing, bankruptcy filings, crime rates on the rise etc. Just bad timing to be asking tax payers to front the bill for private profits. Saddledome is fine, the only problem is lack of washrooms. The dome is a dump, I've never had a problem with the washrooms though, just don't go during the middle of the intermission. Tax payers will only be coming up with a portion of the cost. People get stuck with the line of thinking that, “Murray Edwards wants a new building, he should pay for it” He might want it, and he will likely make profit eventually from it, but he’s not one that wants it. I want it because I (a resident of Calgary) benefit from it. There are so many direct and indirect benefits that a rink/ hockey franchise brings to a city. And it's not like their isn't a need for a new rink. What’s the alternative, continue playing in dome until it’s got no use and then what. It’s that idea that when your car is near the end, you got two options. Buy a new reliable one, or continue spending money on repairs and upgrades hoping it last a bit longer. But eventually, your still going to need a new car and perhaps this new car brings in alternative savings (better gas mileage). The dome is missing out on ton of revenue, it's got a low number box seats, it's roof prevents big name concerted from and the stampede ground are wanting to expand. It's time to move and keeping it in the core rather than pulling a Glendale and moving it out by balsac speak volumes to a focus on benefiting the Calgarians. Hey it would be way cheaper to build and buy that land but it wouldn't benefit the local business near as much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Hope betty helps with sharing and gives calgary a few mill like he has to help other teams! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neko Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Apparently NHL doesn't care all that much about the ref officials, they're beyond terrible in recent years. I lived in Calgary for 12+ years, it's the kind of city you can't push people around in, and I too have to chime in that I enjoyed being int he Saddledome and even when the Flames were doing bad the fans were always having a good time (of which I can't say the same about Canucks fans). It's not exactly on Calgary's priority list right now, the city has been upgrading a handful of things. If Calgary are going to be building a new arena they're probably going to have to address McMahan stadium too which is showing its age (and it sucks sitting on the east side during summer afternoons with that hot sun shining on your face which is why I end up buying west end tickets everytime but that's a different discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 So the league signs a huge tv deal, and has the gall to ask/imply the taxpayers should foot the bill for a new stadium? Neshi got it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 2 hours ago, Creepy Crawler said: Apparently NHL doesn't care all that much about the ref officials, they're beyond terrible in recent years. I lived in Calgary for 12+ years, it's the kind of city you can't push people around in, and I too have to chime in that I enjoyed being int he Saddledome and even when the Flames were doing bad the fans were always having a good time (of which I can't say the same about Canucks fans). It's not exactly on Calgary's priority list right now, the city has been upgrading a handful of things. If Calgary are going to be building a new arena they're probably going to have to address McMahan stadium too which is showing its age (and it sucks sitting on the east side during summer afternoons with that hot sun shining on your face which is why I end up buying west end tickets everytime but that's a different discussion. That’s part of what’s being proposed. It’s not just a new hockey rink, they want to build a huge multisport complex. Home for Flames, Hitmen, Roughnecks and Stamps. http://calgarynext.com/ Calgary Sports and Entertainment, owns all those teams, so rather than building separate complexs or upgrading each building individually, they want to build a huge multisport complex that will house all their sports teams. All of their current buildings are old and getting to the point that they will have to put a ton of money in upgrades if they want to continue to use them. 1 hour ago, gurn said: So the league signs a huge tv deal, and has the gall to ask/imply the taxpayers should foot the bill for a new stadium? Neshi got it right. Why would the NHL pay for a multisport complex that also houses other professional sports? Bettman is an employee of the owners, all he is doing is using his voice to publicly support his bosses. And no, tax payer wont foot the bill, tax payers will chip in, why because the city as a whole, benefits not just the owners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Going a bit strawman on me, so let me re-iterate, no public money for a hockey arena. Help for the rest of the project-excluding the stadium (if the Stamps are privately owned), I can support in principal, but I would need more info before I'd vote yes in a referendum. The city, not Calagary, doesn't help my dad keep his business open by building him a new location. No subsidies for profitable companies. No coporate welfare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maz Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 If Bettman chips in some of his yearly salary they could have that thing paid off in no time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 9 minutes ago, gurn said: Going a bit strawman on me, so let me re-iterate, no public money for a hockey arena. Help for the rest of the project-excluding the stadium (if the Stamps are privately owned), I can support in principal, but I would need more info before I'd vote yes in a referendum. The city, not Calagary, doesn't help my dad keep his business open by building him a new location. No subsidies for profitable companies. No coporate welfare. How much does your dads business benefit the city. Bars, resturants, retail shops, hotels all hugely benefit from a sports franchise that does not even including the community give back. Both the flames and stamps are due for a new arena and the teams are loosing out on a ton of money because of their current buildings. Also there are a ton of provincial grants your dad can apply for if he needs a new building for his business. Again the city isn't expected to foot the bill, only a percentage which it being negotiated but is expected to be around 25-30% depending how you want to look for it. That's a far cry from the giving the flames a new rink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 They run the flames as a for profit business, let private industry pay for it, either that or let the city reap the "net" profit until the original outlay is recouped, plus interest. Then fine by me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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