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1 hour ago, Grape said:

Personally I don't like the idea of young players getting C's or A's. Look at it from a players perspective; if you were a 30+ year old player on the team and there's a 21 year old wearing the "A" or "C" ahead of you, how would that make you feel? You're a guy that has a family and commitments and responsibilities, and yet, you have to listen to a guy that's 10 years younger whose mother probably still cooks for him and he's essentially your leader. It creates awkwardness and possibly dysfunction amongst a team.

IMO to earn a C there's 3 conditions.

1. You have to be a certain age and responsible/mature enough to lead a team

2. You have to have been on the team for an amount of years, probs 2-4 years. Can't just sign a FA and hand him the C right away

3. You obviously can't be a plug

In Horvat's situation there's really nothing different. Yea it looks good on him for the fans he's a big piece to our future. But to just strip the "A" off of Burrows would be disgraceful not only to him but to other guys like Edler, Hamhuis, Vrbata, Hansen, Sutter, and even Tanev granted some of them may not be on the team next year. Horvat's definitely not a plug and he'll have been around long enough at the start of next year IMO, but as he matures and ages he'll eventually earn it, so there's absolutely no rush.

The guy that gets the "A" is the guy who:

-works harder than anyone else on & off the ice.

-carries himself in a professional manner on & off the ice at all times

-plays a 200 foot game

-willing to do whatever it takes to win & puts team mates ahead of himself

-does whatever asked from him by coaches, management, fans, community, charity, etc.

-simply shows up every practice, game & shift with 100% effort.

-confident/positive character

 

Sometimes age helps  & sometimes some are just born to be leaders...

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4 hours ago, -Vintage Canuck- said:

He's our Captain, when Henrik Sedin retires.

Give him an A? Give him the C later? Really? Horvat as of now is a career minus player. This means he has not fully learned the game at the NHL level. The kid should be given the opportunity to develop without the extra pressure of the A.

I understand when everyone wants to give the kid the future captain mantle because this was also said about Hodgson when he was playing here. Why does Horvat get that mantle? Doesn't McCann or Virtanen or Skinkauruk, or Sven or so many other young players get a shot? From what I can see McCann is doing the same thing Horvat was doing last year. What, McCann doesn't get consideration because he started a year late? Horvat had a few good games, good for him, it's called development. now let's see him do it on a consistent basis for a few years before he gets stitched. 

p.s. Why shouldn't Sutter get the A next season?

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1 hour ago, Grape said:

Personally I don't like the idea of young players getting C's or A's. Look at it from a players perspective; if you were a 30+ year old player on the team and there's a 21 year old wearing the "A" or "C" ahead of you, how would that make you feel? You're a guy that has a family and commitments and responsibilities, and yet, you have to listen to a guy that's 10 years younger whose mother probably still cooks for him and he's essentially your leader. It creates awkwardness and possibly dysfunction amongst a team.

IMO to earn a C there's 3 conditions.

1. You have to be a certain age and responsible/mature enough to lead a team

2. You have to have been on the team for an amount of years, probs 2-4 years. Can't just sign a FA and hand him the C right away

3. You obviously can't be a plug

In Horvat's situation there's really nothing different. Yea it looks good on him for the fans he's a big piece to our future. But to just strip the "A" off of Burrows would be disgraceful not only to him but to other guys like Edler, Hamhuis, Vrbata, Hansen, Sutter, and even Tanev granted some of them may not be on the team next year. Horvat's definitely not a plug and he'll have been around long enough at the start of next year IMO, but as he matures and ages he'll eventually earn it, so there's absolutely no rush.

age really shouldn't be a deciding factor. While they're more exceptions than the norm, there's more than a couple young guys wearing letters around the league or players who were given letters young. Toews and Crosby got it young (extenuating circumstances here of course, Landedkog, Monahan, Palat, Faulk, Gallagher, and Kopitar too. There's also the oilers but they're pretty much devoid of real veteran leadership so it doesn't really count, but then again some people would say the same of the Canucks.

32 minutes ago, smokes said:

Give him an A? Give him the C later? Really? Horvat as of now is a career minus player. This means he has not fully learned the game at the NHL level. The kid should be given the opportunity to develop without the extra pressure of the A.

I understand when everyone wants to give the kid the future captain mantle because this was also said about Hodgson when he was playing here. Why does Horvat get that mantle? Doesn't McCann or Virtanen or Skinkauruk, or Sven or so many other young players get a shot? From what I can see McCann is doing the same thing Horvat was doing last year. What, McCann doesn't get consideration because he started a year late? Horvat had a few good games, good for him, it's called development. now let's see him do it on a consistent basis for a few years before he gets stitched. 

p.s. Why shouldn't Sutter get the A next season?

His +/- isn't really indicative of the level of player he is IMO. Last year he played with some crappy line mates (and another youngster in Kenins for a fair bit too) and this year he's on a pretty bad team where it's common to see players with poor +/-'s. Again, like last year, he's drawn tough match ups and assignments for much of the year too. Being counted on to take a good chunk of the D zone draws as a 20 year old will do some damage to the stat.

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A is for anchor, why weigh him down when he's just starting to find his groove?  Let him just go about his business without any added responsibility for awhile.  I really hate the idea based only on timing.  Could mess with his psyche and we want him to earn his way there, through hard work and leadership.  He will.

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Don't force leadership on a player that is learning the game. Give Bo the A when he's truly ready to be a leader.  Why speed the process up and potentially wreck his career.  He needs to continue to learn the game; once he has then he's ready

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10 hours ago, BI3KSA- said:

No need to put any more pressure on him. We already saw him struggle earlier this year when too much was put on him too fast, no need to make the same mistake twice. Let him focus on playing.  

This. He's still learning what it takes to be a successful NHL'er, so no reason to rush things.

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6 hours ago, ShakyWalton said:

Linden was made Canuck captain at 21..Bo should be on the same timeline except for when the Sedins retire.  I dont think an A next year is out of the question.

Giving the C to Linden at his age was also fairly controversial at the time and many said it hampered his development. 

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6 hours ago, ShakyWalton said:

Linden was made Canuck captain at 21..Bo should be on the same timeline except for when the Sedins retire.  I dont think an A next year is out of the question.

Linden was a 2nd overall in a draft that featured Modano, Roenick, Brind'Amour, Selanne, Gelinas and Leschyshyn in the first round - 10,000 NHL games between them. Let's not start saying Horvat should be on the same timeline as the greatest Canuck ever, please.

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1 minute ago, elvis15 said:

Linden was a 2nd overall in a draft that featured Modano, Roenick, Brind'Amour, Selanne, Gelinas and Leschyshyn in the first round - 10,000 NHL games between them. Let's not start saying Horvat should be on the same timeline as the greatest Canuck ever, please.

Chill bro..it was just a statement..Bo was 6th overall in a pretty good draft..Im not saying Bo will play or do as much as Linden and the others you mentioned..but he is on the same track..by the time the twins retire Bo will be in the mix for the C and he will obviously be older than 21...right or wrong Wanda?..

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