Green Goblin Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Blues lineup on dailyfaceoff Apparently he is currently their 3rd line centre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucksfollower1983 Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOxNlmNH7l8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 watch him end up with the pens as part of a deal to land one of Malkin or more likely Crosby. STL has a lot of talent. Shattnkirk Backes + be a nice deal. Maybe a Fabbri or a pick. I know the mere thought of one of them being dealt for good not great players would surprise many. Look what the pens need tho. #2 center to hold down the middle a young prospect and a quality top 3 d man back. Sounds decent. I hope pens keep Malkin. Always felt he was the better player. Especially post concussion Sid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakrami Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 5.5mil/year, 3 years, is the most any team should pay for Backes. 50 point scorer who probably wont be producing at the same pace when he is 35 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 9 minutes ago, Drakrami said: 5.5mil/year, 3 years, is the most any team should pay for Backes. 50 point scorer who probably wont be producing at the same pace when he is 35 years old. Yea, but like Lucic he brings a certain aspect of size and nastiness that teams will pay more for. He'll get at least 6.5, as will Lucic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokes Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 7 hours ago, MJDDawg said: Poor man's Kesler. I don't think that offer is that far off. Kesler and Backes are pretty much in the same category. Career second liners. Neither has a cup. Backes and Kesler should be about the same cap hit. Kesler 782 gp 461 Pts Backes 699gp 433 pts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 at this point of his career, he's probably looking for something with longer term security, something similar to Ryan Kesler, that is waht his agent will probably advise, him as, somewhere north of 6 million at least 5 years, "at least". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice orca Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 He needs more money to pay the reffs off so he can stand behind them in the scrums he starts. Biggest fake tough guy in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 12 hours ago, Rush17 said: watch him end up with the pens as part of a deal to land one of Malkin or more likely Crosby. STL has a lot of talent. Shattnkirk Backes + be a nice deal. Maybe a Fabbri or a pick. I know the mere thought of one of them being dealt for good not great players would surprise many. Look what the pens need tho. #2 center to hold down the middle a young prospect and a quality top 3 d man back. Sounds decent. I hope pens keep Malkin. Always felt he was the better player. Especially post concussion Sid. Malkin and Tarasenko on the same team....scary good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 1 hour ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: Malkin and Tarasenko on the same team....scary good Would be without a doubt. Sorry for the underline in my msg was doing it on my phone lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrene Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 17 hours ago, 70seven said: issue here is term. he should easily squeak out 5-6 years on the open market. 5.5 is very close to his appropriate number. this is why they started with 3 years. its a bargaining chip. if he wants more, theyll want to drive the $ aav down. personally i think backes is overrated. not that creative offensively, not great defensively, and average on the draw. hes a grinder that can pot 50-60 points. he got value for sure, but I wouldnt want to break the bank on him. for a guy who seems like he should be the prototypical playoff performer, hes got a whopping 5 goals and 13 points in 29 career games and has led his team to the 2nd round once in 9 seasons. I hope they overpay for him. He's having a bad year for sure, and he isn't worth that money, but the way you describe him- a grinder with 60 pts isnt anything to scoff at. If Virtanen or Horvat gets 60pts in their prime, I'd be excited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 20 hours ago, DeNiro said: That Kesler contract really screwed things up for alot of teams I think. Now 50-60 point guys are going to use him as a comparable for what they should be making. Kesler's overpaid in term and $$$, so that should be a warning to anyone trying to negotiate a similar deal. Same with Bieksa's contract they hammered out after the trade, the Canucks were right to not want any part of that (although I doubt he would have gone for so much here). Backes is still pretty steady but is definitely not an improving commodity at this point and the Blues would be smart to keep him on a shorter deal (3-5 years) without going too much higher (~$6-6.5M). And that's without having a look at any cap issues that might create for them, so factor that in as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Not much reality going around. Backes will get more than 6 and easily 4 or more. People going on about his scoring pace this year....he started slowly (6pts in first 17 games - and his regular self since) - he's a 55-60 pt player. Guys that score in that range and are creampuffs get the kind of contracts St Louis is offering. He's playing a shutdown role with Brouwer. 39% offensive zone starts and they're facing the strongest quality of competition on their team. 7th in the NHL in hits, always has a strong turnover differential, always plays a solid two way game. And he's their captain. I really don't care for the guy, but realistically.... 3 x 5.5 is a pipe-dream lowball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierdaddy Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 I still with the Blues didn't match when the Canucks gave him an offer sheet. I liked that move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 backes, shattenkirk, fabbri for stamkos, drouin balance as necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Sounds like he wants something more akin to a Kesler deal as others have pointed out, which is ridiculous because Kesler's not worth his contract. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Blues flip him for something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70seven Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 On 1/25/2016 at 0:05 PM, Pyrene said: He's having a bad year for sure, and he isn't worth that money, but the way you describe him- a grinder with 60 pts isnt anything to scoff at. If Virtanen or Horvat gets 60pts in their prime, I'd be excited Definitely not scoffing at all. But being 31 and playing that style, one would assume that the decline is on the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nooks Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 On 1/24/2016 at 3:49 PM, MJDDawg said: Poor man's Kesler. I don't think that offer is that far off. I'd say Kelser is more of a poor man's Backes. Kesler is very unlikely to break 50 points on his 6.85mil 6 year deal (NTC too!). 5.5mil and only 3 years for a guy always put up 50+ is laughable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBH1926 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Some team will overpay for Backes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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