Aladeen Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 That all being said I am all for JB picking up Clendening on waivers then Waiving Weber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladeen Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Just now, J.R. said: Just reading what you wrote Al Yup, you're such a hockey knowledge man it's amazing how you have time to talk down to us on CDC when your NHL scouting/Gming job must keep you so busy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 1 minute ago, Aladeen said: Yes but you are just looking at the player themselves. Chicago wanted to offload him because of his waiver status in the next season. They would have lost him to waiver for nothing if they didn't trade him. The trajectory of how Forsling was developing at the time, combined with where Vancouver was during it's rebuild/retool meant that Forsling at least at that very moment was a more important asset to the Canucks than Clendening could ever have been UNTIL HE WAS TRADED TO PITTSBURGH. Clendening was 22 years old. You have an odd combination of hindsighting and prematurely writing the player off going on. Let's say he hypothetically is claimed by this team - were that the case and he lives up to his potential / commands a roster spot - his 'trajectory' still fits extremely well with this team moving forward / the retool. He'd have a potential decade of an NHL career ahead of him. The 'trajectory' point imo is contrived and doesn't really stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Claim Clendening, waive Weber. If Weber clears, make him the PP QB for the Comets; if he's claimed, great. Clendening is a safe 7th D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladeen Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Just now, oldnews said: Clendening was 22 years old. You have an odd combination of hindsighting and prematurely writing the player off going on. Let's say he hypothetically is claimed by this team - were that the case and he lives up to his potential / commands a roster spot - his 'trajectory' still fits extremely well with this team moving forward / the retool. He'd have a potential decade of an NHL career ahead of him. The 'trajectory' point imo is contrived and doesn't really stick. I am not writing him off at all, I see his upside and saw it when he played here. I am only speaking in terms of asset management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 3 minutes ago, Aladeen said: That all being said I am all for JB picking up Clendening on waivers then Waiving Weber. Clendening does come at half the cap hit and is an RFA - so the option of qualifying him at 760k +10% might be enough to convince JB... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladeen Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 I don't know what you want from me? Ok I was wrong to ever feel that a trade was not perfect by our perfect GM. He is always right and can do no wrong. That's all I am going to say on the subject because I really don't care and have wasted way more time on you guys then I ever hoped to. It's like me defending AV all over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 at this point I would claim him. He's better then weber. But I don't think JB will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpt Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 1 hour ago, hobart16 said: We need him in Utica. Not sure if it makes sense $$ wise. He is a definite upgrade on some of the PTO guys we have had. Can't send him to Utica, claiming him off waivers makes us keep him on our NHL roster, if not then we have to put him on waivers and hope someone doesn't claim him. Doesn't make much sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 7 minutes ago, Aladeen said: Yup, you're such a hockey knowledge man it's amazing how you have time to talk down to us on CDC when your NHL scouting/Gming job must keep you so busy. No need to get snarky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 4 minutes ago, Aladeen said: I don't know what you want from me? Ok I was wrong to ever feel that a trade was not perfect by our perfect GM. He is always right and can do no wrong. That's all I am going to say on the subject because I really don't care and have wasted way more time on you guys then I ever hoped to. It's like me defending AV all over again. That is a worthwhile and highly reasonable expense imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gstank29 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 I think I should bump the Sutter thread and quote everyone crying about losing Clendening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toews Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Just now, oldnews said: Clendening was 22 years old. You have an odd combination of hindsighting and prematurely writing the player off going on. Let's say he hypothetically is claimed by this team - were that the case and he lives up to his potential / commands a roster spot - his 'trajectory' still fits extremely well with this team moving forward / the retool. He'd have a potential decade of an NHL career ahead of him. The 'trajectory' point imo is contrived and doesn't really stick. I am writing off Clendening. I saw a bit of him in Rockford and he just never managed to improve on his weaknesses. By the way you are bang on about his skating. For the kind of skillset that he brings he needs to be a better skater as his play on the defensive side of things is nothing to write home about. Still I did think that he could at least be a PP specialist. I thought that a fresh start would do him a world of good especially since he got passed up by guys like TVR and Rundblad. He was a decent gamble for what was a 5th found pick but IMO I doubt he amounts to much in NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 4 minutes ago, Gstank29 said: I hihnk I should bump the Sutter thread and quote everyone crying about losing Clendening And that was the original point -- there were many, and primarily because he was moved for Forsling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 1 minute ago, Toews said: I am writing off Clendening. I saw a bit of him in Rockford and he just never managed to improve on his weaknesses. By the way you are bang on about his skating. For the kind of skillset that he brings he needs to be a better skater as his play on the defensive side of things is nothing to write home about. Still I did think that he could at least be a PP specialist. I thought that a fresh start would do him a world of good especially since he got passed up by guys like TVR and Rundblad. He was a decent gamble for what was a 5th found pick but IMO I doubt he amounts to much in NHL. Yeah - his upright, stiff skating style with that short, choppy stride of his and suspect lateral movement - kinda reminds me off the older Bieksa to some extent. I don't know if he'll be able to improve on it at this stage, but you never know. I haven't really seen him this year so it's hard to say whether there's any improvement there - but at the time he was dealt, I'd have to say that looked like a fairly fatal weakness. As much as we run down Weber until we're blue in the face (expected too much of him imo), had they had to depend on Clendening through that stretch of injuries as opposed to Weber, I imagine it could have been equally ugly, with Clendening taking the distinction of CDC's whipping boy of choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Clendenning wasn't very good during his time with the Utica Comets, during the playoff run. Utica was, at the time, stacked with Baertschi/Markstrom playing like monsters on there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 I think the point could be moot regardless. The Laffs will claim him. They absolutely can't resist anything that has previously worn a Canucks jersey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 I'll step up and say I was wrong about this guy and stanton, I thought they'd turn out better in their careers than they have thus far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 47 minutes ago, Aladeen said: That all being said I am all for JB picking up Clendening on waivers then Waiving Weber. I'd be down with JB claiming to be the king of France if it meant waiving weber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 47 minutes ago, Aladeen said: That all being said I am all for JB picking up Clendening on waivers then Waiving Weber. I'd be down with JB claiming to be the king of France if it meant waiving weber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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