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SMH at Mike Pompeo accusing Iran and China of "lying" about the Coronavirus....
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/pompeo-says-state-department-employees-tested-positive-for-coronavirus-as-he-blasts-iran-and-china-over-disinformation/ar-BB11lB7n?li=AAggFp5

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Pompeo also focused on America's geopolitical foes Iran and China in connection to the pandemic, claiming that Iran has been lying about the impact of the outbreak and, like China, has been falsely trying to blame the virus on the US.

Iranian leaders have "lied about the Wuhan virus for weeks, the Iranian leadership is trying to avoid responsibility for their ... gross incompetence," Pompeo said, speaking to reporters at the State Department.

 

Pot...meet kettle....:rolleyes:

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Apparently, Burr (Senate Intelligence Committee chairman) was warning rich donors about the coronavirus over 3 weeks ago, comparing it to the Spanish Flu:

 

https://www.npr.org/2020/03/19/818192535/burr-recording-sparks-questions-about-private-comments-on-covid-19

 

This was the same time Fox news and Trump were telling the general public not to worry, democrat hoax, all under control. 

 

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Later on Hannity angrily confronted accusations that he had crawled all the way up Trump's rump. "Ask Mike (Pence), he is there all the time. He will tell you I haven't been anywhere near it." 

 

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20 hours ago, Toews said:

When rhetoric meets reality. Fox News of all networks should have been the most concerned about this considering the average age of their viewing audience. Hopefully this is a reminder to their viewers that if they want the unadulterated facts, they are not going to get them from the likes of Ingraham and Hannity.

 

Unrelated, but I don't know what it is about Pirro but I just feel like throwing something at whatever screen has her on. I don't understand it, its something that just drives me up the wall. At least with Tucker I know its his face.

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CNN is the laughs and giggles group so who do you watch?

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27 minutes ago, Boudrias said:

CNN is the laughs and giggles group so who do you watch?

CNN is a joke. Their hyper focus on all things Trump to the exclusion of many other important stories is a big part of the problem imo. 

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2 minutes ago, Ronaldoescobar said:

Neither Fox or CNN is actual news... Both are OPINION on the news. 

 

Why people watch either aside for a few laughs is beyond me. 

Neither should be taken at face value since they both have a political leaning. However, it's worth noting that one of the two up until recently had it's anchors downplaying the severity of the current health crisis and supporting conspiracy theories, in lockstep with the rhetoric put forth by Donald Trump, while the other was putting actual health professionals (including Anthony Fauci) on the air to handle the "opinion" portion of the show.

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25 minutes ago, Boudrias said:

CNN is the laughs and giggles group so who do you watch?

Watching any of these opinion news channels is a waste of any individual's time. I used to watch Real Time with Bill Maher but Bill began annoying me when he began to pretend that Trump would refuse to leave the White House. 

 

All media have some political bias as well as benefactors that they will try hard not to criticize. But as far as reporting standards, I would say they are worse on the right than on the left. Fox is responsible for proliferating more misinformation than CNN, Trump being a corrupt, amoral President makes trying to gloss over his mistakes far more difficult, hence the outright lying. When people say CNN is akin to Fox to me it makes as much sense as believing Trump is akin to Obama. 

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19 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

CNN is a joke. Their hyper focus on all things Trump to the exclusion of many other important stories is a big part of the problem imo. 

One has to ask why these orgs ever gained the influence they ever did. There is a obvious political agenda but also a business side that lives for the ‘taps’ they can generate for advertisers. When that doesn’t work anymore you pull a CBC and say you want to go advert free. The taxpayer can pick up the full tab for our BS. 

 

The failure in in all of this is an electorate that is prepared to have someone else do their thinking for them and a political leadership that cannot communicate a philosophy that can evaluate issues with. I try to be a numbers guy. If the numbers don’t add up I am being sold a bill of goods and the salesman is a BS’er. 

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8 minutes ago, Chicken. said:

CNN white house correspondent delivering the important news...

 

 

Doesn't quite have the same panache as one of his staff, who when speaking to a reporter of Asian descent, referred to it as the Kung Flu....

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14 minutes ago, Chicken. said:

CNN white house correspondent delivering the important news...

 

 

Right and if the media started calling this the "Trump virus", you can bet that Dotard and his supporters would be up in arms. The virus already has a name COVID-19. While I don't think in this instance Trump is being racist, he is being extremely insensitive and needlessly stigmatizing a lot of Chinese Americans. Just another juvenile moment from a man that has consistently shown himself unfit to lead a country.

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3 minutes ago, RUPERTKBD said:

Doesn't quite have the same panache as one of his staff, who when speaking to a reporter of Asian descent, referred to it as the Kung Flu....

Okay, that's amazing.

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7 minutes ago, Toews said:

Right and if the media started calling this the "Trump virus", you can bet that Dotard and his supporters would be up in arms. The virus already has a name COVID-19. While I don't think in this instance Trump is being racist, he is being extremely insensitive and needlessly stigmatizing a lot of Chinese Americans. Just another juvenile moment from a man that has consistently shown himself unfit to lead a country.

It's basically a case of Trump doing what he always does.....deflect blame.

 

He knows he sh!t the bed with the response to the virus, so he's making a point of reminding everyone that he "didn't start it". Of course that means next to nothing, as the focus should be on ending it, but this is what Trump does and the MAGA crowd will always lap it up....

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3 minutes ago, Toews said:

Right and if the media started calling this the "Trump virus", you can bet that Dotard and his supporters would be up in arms. The virus already has a name COVID-19. While I don't think in this instance Trump is being racist, he is being extremely insensitive and needlessly stigmatizing a lot of Chinese Americans. Just another juvenile moment from a man unfit to lead a country.

It's just a fact of where it came from. He's obviously doing it on purpose to get a rise out of media and make them 'defend' China which certainly deserves any defending in their handling of this, and to clarify any propaganda about the military bringing it to China as the CCP claimed 

 

Love me some outrage articles.. crazy people get paid to write this stuff 

 

Trump’s new fixation on using a racist name for the coronavirus is dangerous

The president is stoking xenophobia with his rhetoric about the coronavirus.

 

https://www.vox.com/2020/3/18/21185478/coronavirus-usa-trump-chinese-virus 

 

10 minutes ago, RUPERTKBD said:

Doesn't quite have the same panache as one of his staff, who when speaking to a reporter of Asian descent, referred to it as the Kung Flu....

Ah yes Kung Fluu... still looking for the white house official that used the term : )

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Chicken. said:

It's just a fact of where it came from. He's obviously doing it on purpose to get a rise out of media and make them 'defend' China which certainly deserves any defending in their handling of this, and to clarify any propaganda about the military bringing it to China as the CCP claimed 

 

Love me some outrage articles.. crazy people get paid to write this stuff 

 

Trump’s new fixation on using a racist name for the coronavirus is dangerous

The president is stoking xenophobia with his rhetoric about the coronavirus.

 

https://www.vox.com/2020/3/18/21185478/coronavirus-usa-trump-chinese-virus 

 

Ah yes Kung Fluu... still looking for the white house official that used the term : )

 

 

 

I see....so your position is that the reporter is lying?

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1 minute ago, RUPERTKBD said:

I see....so your position is that the reporter is lying?

Would I be outraged if it were true.. ? A bit immature from a ranking official, sounds like something I might say as a joke

 

Wouldn't mind seeing some evidence for the claim though, found a related clip with your favorite Kellyanne commenting though !

 

 

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Just now, Chicken. said:

Would I be outraged if it were true.. ? A bit immature from a ranking official, sounds like something I might say as a joke

 

Wouldn't mind seeing some evidence for the claim though, found a related clip with your favorite Kellyanne commenting though !

 

 

Seen it. What's telling to me is that no-one in the administration has denied it happened. Not even "alternative facts" Conway.

 

I doubt that even the most studious of WH reporters know the names of all the administration staffers and I doubt that the administration would offer up the name of the guilty party. But hey, if "Fake News!" works for you, knock yourself out.

 

Personally, the amount of times that Bone Spurs says "Chines virus" or "Wuhan virus", makes me believe that a low level staffer would easily feel emboldened to use a racially offensive label. YMMV

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17 minutes ago, Chicken. said:

It's just a fact of where it came from. He's obviously doing it on purpose to get a rise out of media and make them 'defend' China which certainly deserves any defending in their handling of this, and to clarify any propaganda about the military bringing it to China as the CCP claimed 

 

Love me some outrage articles.. crazy people get paid to write this stuff 

 

Trump’s new fixation on using a racist name for the coronavirus is dangerous

The president is stoking xenophobia with his rhetoric about the coronavirus.

 

https://www.vox.com/2020/3/18/21185478/coronavirus-usa-trump-chinese-virus 

 

Ah yes Kung Fluu... still looking for the white house official that used the term : )

 

 

 

While I do not believe that Trump saying "Chinese Virus" is racist, it may be a little careless. The article is a bit over the top but you dont want to see innocent people, specifically Asians, being targeted by actual racists who blame them personally for the virus. I also say Asians because unfortunately many nationalities (Japanese, Korean etc etc) would  probably be mistaken for Chinese by some. 

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1 minute ago, RUPERTKBD said:

Seen it. What's telling to me is that no-one in the administration has denied it happened. Not even "alternative facts" Conway.

 

I doubt that even the most studious of WH reporters know the names of all the administration staffers and I doubt that the administration would offer up the name of the guilty party. But hey, if "Fake News!" works for you, knock yourself out.

 

Personally, the amount of times that Bone Spurs says "Chines virus" or "Wuhan virus", makes me believe that a low level staffer would easily feel emboldened to use a racially offensive label. YMMV

How can one deny it happened when no one knows who the claim is against ?  I can only imagine how many 'staffers' or 'officials' are in the white house that have a mind of their own and could have used the term off the cuff, but who knows really... only the accuser 

 

Hopefully labelling it the Chinese virus brings light to stories like these where the CCP tried to shove warnings from health officials under the rug until it was too much to contain and had already spread globally

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51403795 

 

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The death of Dr Li Wenliang has been a heart-breaking moment for this country. For the Chinese leadership it is an epic political disaster.

It lays bare the worst aspects of China's command and control system of governance under Xi Jinping - and the Communist Party would have to be blind not to see it.

If your response to a dangerous health emergency is for the police to harass a doctor trying to blow the whistle, then your structure is obviously broken.

 

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