USA Politics/Election Thread: House Impeaches Trump for 2nd Time

[Ryan Strome 9,104]

4 minutes ago, RUPERTKBD said:

The sad thing is that although he's changed his tune (as have the talking heads at Faux News) it hasn't yet resulted in a change of attitude on the part of some of his "true believers". (as shown by the NPR poll I posted earlier)

 

Hopefully, he continues in that vein and those numbers start to turn around.

He has made really good announcements for people but have they actually happened. I will give JT credit, he added a ton of debt but did what had to be done. 

[RUPERTKBD 26,414]

11 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said:

He has made really good announcements for people but have they actually happened. I will give JT credit, he added a ton of debt but did what had to be done. 

Well, this one has:

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-20/trump-suspends-student-loan-payments-standardized-testing

 

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President Donald Trump said Friday that loan payments on federally-held student loans could be suspended for 60 days without penalty as the economy is hit by the coronavirus.

He also said the federal government would waive requirements for standardized tests of school-aged children as schools have been shuttered in many states.

Of the loan payments, the president suggested the grace period could be extended if necessary.

 

As someone who works in the education field, I applaud this move and hope that Canada announces something similar.

 

As you pointed out earlier, these things contribute to the overall debt, but I believe they're necessary.

[Ryan Strome 9,104]

3 minutes ago, RUPERTKBD said:

Well, this one has:

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-20/trump-suspends-student-loan-payments-standardized-testing

 

As someone who works in the education field, I applaud this move and hope that Canada announces something similar.

 

As you pointed out earlier, these things contribute to the overall debt, but I believe they're necessary.

I thought that in Canada's aid package they were suspending student debt?

[RUPERTKBD 26,414]

Just now, Ryan Strome said:

I thought that in Canada's aid package they were suspending student debt?

Could be. TBH, I'm suffering from a bit of information overload atm. I tend to see "aid package", say "good" and then move on.

 

Glad to see it in any case. Even though we disagree on may things, I think we both believe that the governments of the world have a responsibility to help their citizens as much as possible, in times like these.

[Chicken. 3,610]

Split along partisan lines of course but the this seems to be having a large effect, Families First Coronavirus Response Act 

 

 

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/488597-majority-of-americans-approve-of-trumps-handling-of-coronavirus-poll 

 

Majority of Americans now say they approve of Trump's handling of coronavirus

 

[Ryan Strome 9,104]

Just now, RUPERTKBD said:

Could be. TBH, I'm suffering from a bit of information overload atm. I tend to see "aid package", say "good" and then move on.

 

Glad to see it in any case. Even though we disagree on may things, I think we both believe that the governments of the world have a responsibility to help their citizens as much as possible, in times like these.

I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure they did. Absolutely our view on politics is staunchly different but admittedly I'm accepting the government of the day as the government of the day at a leaving politics out of it and hoping they are doing the same. Like I said this package will add massive to the debt but in my opinion it's not enough. I also think going into the next election whenever that may be in this country that no party can hold that against this government as they had no choice and every other government would have done the same or let's hope they would have.

[Ryan Strome 9,104]

2 minutes ago, Chicken. said:

Split along partisan lines of course but the this seems to be having a large effect, Families First Coronavirus Response Act 

 

 

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/488597-majority-of-americans-approve-of-trumps-handling-of-coronavirus-poll 

 

Majority of Americans now say they approve of Trump's handling of coronavirus

 

This is the issue though is everything is still going to be political. It's just like people calling for martial law in Canada which will require the prime minister to suspend everyone's rights. I won't say if it's the right move or even give my opinion on it however for people to think there wouldn't be a political decision behind that are delusional. When this all ends all the talk would be about how he imposed martial law and took away everyone's rights not really sure any prime minister wants that on their record. I feel like times like this we all need to come together no matter who the leader is and do what's best for the nation.

[RUPERTKBD 26,414]

1 hour ago, Ryan Strome said:

I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure they did. Absolutely our view on politics is staunchly different but admittedly I'm accepting the government of the day as the government of the day at a leaving politics out of it and hoping they are doing the same. Like I said this package will add massive to the debt but in my opinion it's not enough. I also think going into the next election whenever that may be in this country that no party can hold that against this government as they had no choice and every other government would have done the same or let's hope they would have.

I agree, however, I think we both know that this likely won't be the reality.

[RUPERTKBD 26,414]

2 hours ago, nuckin_futz said:

Well I didn't go out of my way. I am in the industry and was curious. So I took a few minutes to Google it. Turns out her husband is just a crappy investor.

 

As for the other Senators. They haven't done anything illegal. Is it moral or ethical? That's an entirely different question.

It is and let me start off by admitting that this is an opinion piece and that it's from the WaPo, (hardly fans of Donald Trump) but if these people knew that the threat was serious, while the president was publicly downplaying it's severity, it rises to a whole new level of scumbaggery:

 

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/opinions-three-big-takeaways-from-the-stunning-gop-stock-selling-revelations/ar-BB11tkZT?li=AAggNb9

 

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Burr reportedly was receiving daily briefings on the threat of the virus. In mid-February, he sold 33 stocks held by him and his spouse, estimated at between $628,033 and $1.72 million, Senate financial disclosures show. It was the largest number of stocks he had sold in one day since at least 2016, records show.

Making this potentially worse, that same month, Burr privately advised a group of well-connected players that the coronavirus threat was very alarming — “akin to the 1918 pandemic” — even as Trump was publicly downplaying it.

 

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Burr is pointing to a briefing that Trump and administration officials gave in late February, suggesting that this showed that they warned Americans about the need to “begin making plans” for serious inconveniences to come.

But that very same briefing from Trump and his officials actually shows them vastly downplaying the threat and vastly inflating the success of their own efforts.

In it, Trump declared that their strategy was already having “tremendous success, beyond what people thought.” And multiple other officials also hailed the “success” of their containment strategy.

We now know this was the opposite of the truth — the threat was not remotely contained, and the administration’s failures were to blame for it. Burr’s own defense actually shows that the administration was dramatically misleading the public, even as Burr privately warned that the situation was far more dire.

 

 

[RUPERTKBD 26,414]

***sigh*** It's one step forward and two steps back for this guy....

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-rips-reporter-who-asked-him-calm-scared-americans-terrible-n1165031

 

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NBC News’ Peter Alexander, a White House correspondent and a weekend anchor of "TODAY," then asked Trump whether his “positive spin” regarding the potential treatments was giving Americans false hope.

“Is it possible that your impulse to put a positive spin on things may be giving Americans a false sense of hope?” Alexander asked.

“No, I don’t think so,” Trump replied.

“It may work, it may not work, Trump said. “I feel good about. That’s all it is, it’s a feeling.”

Alexander responded by asking Trump to talk directly to Americans who are scared by the pandemic, which triggered the president to reply with an insult.

"What do you say to Americans who are scared though? I guess, nearly 200 dead, 14,000 who are sick, millions, as you witnessed, who are scared right now," Alexander asked. "What do you say to Americans who are watching you right now who are scared?"

“I say that you’re a terrible reporter,” Trump said. “That’s what I say. I think that’s a very nasty question.”

"The American people are looking for answers and they’re looking for hope, and you’re doing sensationalism," Trump said.

"Let’s see if it works," the president added about possible treatments. "It might and it might not. I happen to feel good about it, but who knows, I’ve been right a lot. Let’s see what happens," he added.

NBC News Chairman Andy Lack defended Alexander.

“Peter Alexander is an outstanding reporter. His line of questioning at today’s White House briefing was fair, straightforward, and necessary," he said in a statement Friday.

U.S. stocks, which had been up for the day before Trump began the news conference, tumbled steadily as the president spoke. In recent trading, the Dow Jones Industrial Average was down nearly 200 points, or about 1 percent.

Trump returned to the topic of media coverage later in the news conference, using another question from another reporter to levy an additional attack on Alexander.

Trump was asked if he felt "going off on Peter" was "appropriate when the country is going through something like this"

"I do," Trump replied.

"I’ve dealt with Peter for a long time," Trump said. "And I think Peter is not a good journalist."

 

Even in the midst of a crisis, Trump gotta Trump....

[nuckin_futz 11,524]

29 minutes ago, RUPERTKBD said:

***sigh*** It's one step forward and two steps back for this guy....

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-rips-reporter-who-asked-him-calm-scared-americans-terrible-n1165031

 

Even in the midst of a crisis, Trump gotta Trump....

Being in America now is like being on a bus headed towards a cliff. And realizing the driver doesn't have a license, doesn't know the rules of the road and is drunk.

 

Alexander's question was the definition of a 'softball'. Then again, if I had spent the last three years bragging about the stock market and unemployment rate and saw them both vaporized, I might be a little testy too.

 

There was more too ............

 

 

 

 

[Shift-4 13,256]

46 minutes ago, RUPERTKBD said:

***sigh*** It's one step forward and two steps back for this guy....

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-rips-reporter-who-asked-him-calm-scared-americans-terrible-n1165031

 

Even in the midst of a crisis, Trump gotta Trump....

jeezeus

He gave him an opportunity to calm the public and he goes the 'you hurt my fragile feelings' route

[Ronaldoescobar 2,035]

Fake news....

 

Many many people are saying that no one in the history of mankind has done more to help others than Trump during this virus scare. He is tackling the virus, deep state, and communist fascist socialist liberal dems (who by the way want everyone to die to make him look bad).

 

/s    

[PhillipBlunt 46,807]

I truly feel for the Americans who didn’t vote (and did vote otherwise) for that dried up turd of a president. 
 

The US is rudderless with a scam artist $&!#stain in charge. 

[naslund.is.king 7,452]

7 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said:

I truly feel for the Americans who didn’t vote (and did vote otherwise) for that dried up turd of a president. 
 

The US is rudderless with a scam artist $&!#stain in charge. 

You've had that opinion from day one.

Pretty much every poster here is outraged like every other day.

Trumps been the same since running. His voters don't give a &^@# about his honesty towards the BS,they care about actions and hes lived up to his promises and much more.

Hes doing as good of job as any government handling the Coronavirus. Except he was on top of it much earlier with travel bans from China which of course he was deemed racist for. 

If he didnt do it then things would be much worse. 

Least you guys are consistent and entertaining.

Funny all the outrage to Trump and all of you just ignore the fact this started in China

Just another day in the Donald Trump Thread

Edited March 21, 2020 by naslund.is.king

[gurn 9,985]

9 minutes ago, naslund.is.king said:

hes lived up to his promises

Care to list those you feel he's lived up to?

[nuckin_futz 11,524]

19 minutes ago, naslund.is.king said:

You've had that opinion from day one.

Pretty much every poster here is outraged like every other day.

Trumps been the same since running. His voters don't give a &^@# about his honesty towards the BS,they care about actions and hes lived up to his promises and much more.

Hes doing as good of job as any government handling the Coronavirus. Except he was on top of it much earlier with travel bans from China which of course he was deemed racist for. 

If he didnt do it then things would be much worse. 

Least you guys are consistent and entertaining.

Funny all the outrage to Trump and all of you just ignore the fact this started in China

Just another day in the Donald Trump Thread

The first part is curious. I remember the campaign quite well. His main promises were .....

 

1) Build a wall on the southern border and have Mexico pay for it. FAIL

2) Repeal and replace ObamaCare .. FAIL

3) Massive infrastructure spending to repair the crumbling roads and bridges .. FAIL

 

He has 1 major legislative achievement - Tax Cuts for the wealthy.

 

He's doing as good a job as South Korea, Japan and China? The USA had a 5 week head start to mobilize and get ready as Covid-19 ransacked China and the East which was squandered. He spent those weeks downplaying the virus. Which could very well be why you see so many ignoring it.

 

Now major states are on total lock down. They are already running out of medical supplies and begging the general public to manufacture masks and gowns.

Edited March 21, 2020 by nuckin_futz

[Canorth 5,151]

20 minutes ago, naslund.is.king said:

hes lived up to his promises and much more.

He has lived long enough.

 

 

[Violator 2,072]

6 hours ago, Shift-4 said:

jeezeus

He gave him an opportunity to calm the public and he goes the 'you hurt my fragile feelings' route

Whats left for him to really say about whats going on

 

 

[nuckin_futz 11,524]

1 minute ago, Violator said:

Whats left for him to really say about whats going on

 

 

Let's say you're sitting on a bus. Are you comforted when the driver loses his sh*t on another passenger for no reason? Or do you wish you A) wish you were on a different bus b) wish you had a different driver?