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For all those still holding on to the dream of a DJT 2nd term. First things first, the one thing you cannot do as president is be responsible for unwarranted deaths. That's game over right there. In this whole virus fiasco he's done one thing right. That was quickly curtail travel from China. Kudos to him for that. Sadly for him, that's all he has to hang his hat on. There has been so much missed opportunity and outright failure that it boggles the mind. This will hang around him like a burning tire.

 

People vote with their wallets. They haven't even seen their 401K statements yet. Think anyone who has seen $400,000 vanish is going to vote for him? It's the 2nd time in 11 years the markets have crumbled and needed trillions in bailouts under a Republican administration. Yeah, let's try them again.

 

He won the presidency because he won the Rust Belt. He won there because for them they never really recovered from the Great Recession. Their concerns are purely economic. They don't give a rip about building a fantasy wall or illegals. Now they've been financially nailed for the second time in 11 years. The Rust Belt is entirely up for grabs. Including Pennsylvania where Biden is from. Trump doesn't have Clinton to kick around this time. Just like Bernie didn't, and now Bernie's toast.

 

It's like these people pay no attention to the 2018 mid term elections. Where suburban women who had supported Trump in 2016, abandoned him wholesale and turned out in droves and elected Democratic women in droves. Flipping the House by a wide margin.

 

To think a president can preside over a market crash of this magnitude. One that needs his good buddy Fed Chairman Powell to come bail him out. Preside over double digit unemployment rates. In addition to a bungled pandemic response is loony toonz.

 

Oh I guess he could campaign on his failed love affair with Kim Jong Un.

 

38 minutes ago, naslund.is.king said:

Doesnt matter how you look at it:lol: Unemployment,Stocks, Money and Confidence were all in his favor Pre Covid.People don't care about the,"trends". They care about how they're doing in those categories. Record stocks,Unemployment and Job numbers for all races..Foes,Polls and even Liberals acknowledged and supported his economic numbers and thats very obvious. Not sure what planet you've been on.

"Thanks for playing"..i posted numbers you posted your opinion lol

 

"Re trade deficit. Looks like it's rising during his presidency. So uhhhh good job.".. So your knocking me for being honest and not hiding $&!#? alrighty then lol

 

No one cares where they were if they're unemployed and their retirement dreams just sailed away. You got one thing right. People do care how they're doing in those categories. How they doing right now?

 

What planet have I been on? The one where I have spent the last 21 years with my head buried in all the numbers and charts you posted. The planet where 2.3% GDP fueled by a trillion dollar deficit is crap.

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35 minutes ago, Pears said:

The planet we’re on is the one where your master lies about literally everything and back pedals on what he’s said about covid-19. These are the facts so please don’t try and dispute them. 

That came out of nowhere since i havent mentioned any of what you just said

But sure go the Morale Outrage route:lol:

 

8 minutes ago, nuckin_futz said:

For all those still holding on to the dream of a DJT 2nd term. First things first, the one thing you cannot do as president is be responsible for unwarranted deaths. That's game over right there. In this whole virus fiasco he's done one thing right. That was quickly curtail travel from China. Kudos to him for that. Sadly for him, that's all he has to hang his hat on. There has been so much missed opportunity and outright failure that it boggles the mind. This will hang around him like a burning tire.

 

People vote with their wallets. They haven't even seen their 401K statements yet. Think anyone who has seen $400,000 vanish is going to vote for him? It's the 2nd time in 11 years the markets have crumbled and needed trillions in bailouts under a Republican administration. Yeah, let's try them again.

 

He won the presidency because he won the Rust Belt. He won there because for them they never really recovered from the Great Recession. Their concerns are purely economic. They don't give a rip about building a fantasy wall or illegals. Now they've been financially nailed for the second time in 11 years. The Rust Belt is entirely up for grabs. Including Pennsylvania where Biden is from. Trump doesn't have Clinton to kick around this time. Just like Bernie didn't, and now Bernie's toast.

 

It's like these people pay no attention to the 2018 mid term elections. Where suburban women who had supported Trump in 2016, abandoned him wholesale and turned out in droves and elected Democratic women in droves. Flipping the House by a wide margin.

 

To think a president can preside over a market crash of this magnitude. One that needs his good buddy Fed Chairman Powell to come bail him out. Preside over double digit unemployment rates. In addition to a bungled pandemic response is loony toonz.

 

Oh I guess he could campaign on his failed love affair with Kim Jong Un.

 

No one cares where they were if they're unemployed and their retirement dreams just sailed away. You got one thing right. People do care how they're doing in those categories. How they doing right now?

 

What planet have I been on? The one where I have spent the last 21 years with my head buried in all the numbers and charts you posted. The planet where 2.3% GDP fueled by a trillion dollar deficit is crap.

Thanks for the opinion piece once again to dispute ACTUAL numbers/graphs..Not suprised

"No one cares where they were if they're unemployed and their retirement dreams just sailed away. You got one thing right. People do care how they're doing in those categories. How they doing right now?"

Ahhh yes. Your saving grace is a pandemic thats crashing all economy's across the world and will kill many.:lol:

 

 

"Thanks for playing"

 

Night.

 

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10 minutes ago, naslund.is.king said:

That came out of nowhere since i havent mentioned any of what you just said

But sure go the Morale Outrage route:lol:

 

Thanks for the opinion piece once again to dispute ACTUAL numbers/graphs..Not suprised

"No one cares where they were if they're unemployed and their retirement dreams just sailed away. You got one thing right. People do care how they're doing in those categories. How they doing right now?"

Ahhh yes. Your saving grace is a pandemic thats crashing all economy's across the world and will kill many.:lol:

 

 

"Thanks for playing"

 

Night.

 

I need to show you numbers and charts of how the House flipped? You can't see one side has way more seats?

 

Care to explain why the Federal Reserve was conducting hundreds of billions of dollars in repo operations as far back as September? Bailing out Wall St while the market was at highs?

 

Image result for socialism sucks

 

Oh the bitter irony. Trump is now a bigger socialist than Bernie. :lol:

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1 hour ago, nuckin_futz said:

I need to show you numbers and charts of how the House flipped? You can't see one side has way more seats?

 

Care to explain why the Federal Reserve was conducting hundreds of billions of dollars in repo operations as far back as September? Bailing out Wall St while the market was at highs?

 

Image result for socialism sucks

 

Oh the bitter irony. Trump is now a bigger socialist than Bernie. :lol:

He said “Night” because he has absolutely no rebuttal to your post. Gonna be quite the sight to see what’s left of Trump’s base cry and reach for excuses when the Dems win the election. 

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4 hours ago, naslund.is.king said:

Doesnt matter how you look at it:lol: Unemployment,Stocks, Money and Confidence were all in his favor Pre Covid.People don't care about the,"trends". They care about how they're doing in those categories. Record stocks,Unemployment and Job numbers for all races..Foes,Polls and even Liberals acknowledged and supported his economic numbers and thats very obvious. Not sure what planet you've been on.

"Thanks for playing"..i posted numbers you posted your opinion lol

 

"Re trade deficit. Looks like it's rising during his presidency. So uhhhh good job.".. So your knocking me for being honest and not hiding $&!#? alrighty then lol

 

I’m a trend trader.

I care about the trend.

There is always a current trend.

Find the trend.

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Who would have thought that promoting unproven untested medical treatments would have dire consequences....

 

Arizona man dies after taking coronavirus ‘cure’ Trump touted with false claims

A Phoenix-area man has died and his wife was in critical condition after the couple took chloroquine phosphate, an additive used to clean fish tanks that is also found in an anti-malaria medication touted by Donald Trump as a treatment for Covid-19.
 

Banner Health said on Monday the couple in their 60s got sick within half an hour of ingesting the additive. The man could not be resuscitated at hospital but the woman was able to throw up much of the chemical.

Trump kept saying it was basically pretty much a cure,” the woman told NBC.

She said her advice would be: “Don’t take anything. Don’t believe anything. Don’t believe anything that the president says and his people … call your doctor.

 

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10 hours ago, nuckin_futz said:

For all those still holding on to the dream of a DJT 2nd term. First things first, the one thing you cannot do as president is be responsible for unwarranted deaths. That's game over right there. In this whole virus fiasco he's done one thing right. That was quickly curtail travel from China. Kudos to him for that. Sadly for him, that's all he has to hang his hat on. There has been so much missed opportunity and outright failure that it boggles the mind. This will hang around him like a burning tire.

 

 

I don't give him credit for that at all as a health decision. That was only done to frustrate his 'trade negotiations'.

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27 minutes ago, Canorth said:

Who would have thought that promoting unproven untested medical treatments would have dire consequences....

 

Arizona man dies after taking coronavirus ‘cure’ Trump touted with false claims

A Phoenix-area man has died and his wife was in critical condition after the couple took chloroquine phosphate, an additive used to clean fish tanks that is also found in an anti-malaria medication touted by Donald Trump as a treatment for Covid-19.
 

Banner Health said on Monday the couple in their 60s got sick within half an hour of ingesting the additive. The man could not be resuscitated at hospital but the woman was able to throw up much of the chemical.

Trump kept saying it was basically pretty much a cure,” the woman told NBC.

She said her advice would be: “Don’t take anything. Don’t believe anything. Don’t believe anything that the president says and his people … call your doctor.

 

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i don't know why people even put much faith in this as a likely treatment option

it is an existing substance available to every country in the world

there is not much sophistication required to put it into use

 

give your heads a shake

 

ask yourself some questions first

 

didn't the covid-19 virus originate in china?  yes

as a result didn't china get a head start in learning all details about this virus?  very likely

isn't it likely that china scientists scoured the globe looking for treatment options?  more then likely

don't you think they were aware of chloroquine  study out of france?  yeppers
you think they tested it and tried to replicate it's success?  probably

tested it on live citizens?   very likely (they don't have same medical ethics or constraints as the west)

it therefore likely does not work?    seems a reasonable deduction

if it did in fact work. wouldn't they publicize it, distribute it, to counterbalance the negative image their country has taken on due to covid-19 originating there?  without a doubt

 

so why do people think china (or singapore, s. korea) or any other country has not already canvassed this treatment and simply kept things quiet if it in fact works??  very, very unlikely - any one who finds a viable treatment will be given hero status

 

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22 minutes ago, NewbieCanuckFan said:

He still had a good chance of winning as in times of crisis, Yanks tend to rally around the current leader.  His base is still pretty solid and will listen and take his word still.....

 

https://twitter.com/gtconway3d/status/1242255995470065664?s=20

For Trump to lose the Dems have to produce another candidate other than Biden. The guy doesn’t even know where he is half the time. If Biden won he would be a puppet for the nutbars that run the DNC. It isn’t to late for them to get a progressive business leader like Bill Gates. Neither the DNC or the GOP have a clear philosophy. If they did Trump would never have got the nomination and the DNC would not be the gong show it is.

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2 minutes ago, Boudrias said:

For Trump to lose the Dems have to produce another candidate other than Biden. The guy doesn’t even know where he is half the time. If Biden won he would be a puppet for the nutbars that run the DNC. It isn’t to late for them to get a progressive business leader like Bill Gates. Neither the DNC or the GOP have a clear philosophy. If they did Trump would never have got the nomination and the DNC would not be the gong show it is.

agree with that for sure, but I can't see anyone else at this point with everything going on. Gates would be great, but is there any kind of push for him? not sure how that would even happen. 

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6 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

agree with that for sure, but I can't see anyone else at this point with everything going on. Gates would be great, but is there any kind of push for him? not sure how that would even happen. 

Andrew Cuomo?

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40 minutes ago, coastal.view said:

i don't know why people even put much faith in this as a likely treatment option

it is an existing substance available to every country in the world

there is not much sophistication required to put it into use

because initial small scale results were good. But Trumps yapping has politicized it. Lets let the clinical trials going on right now give us the correct path. WHO is currently testing this and many other possible treatments. 

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18 minutes ago, Boudrias said:

For Trump to lose the Dems have to produce another candidate other than Biden. The guy doesn’t even know where he is half the time. If Biden won he would be a puppet for the nutbars that run the DNC. It isn’t to late for them to get a progressive business leader like Bill Gates. Neither the DNC or the GOP have a clear philosophy. If they did Trump would never have got the nomination and the DNC would not be the gong show it is.

That's the consequence when you let nutjobs hijack your party (GOP).  It leaves the very likely option nutjobs on the other end of the scale (Lefties) come into power eventually.  Barry Goldwater is rolling over in his grave right now.

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26 minutes ago, Boudrias said:

For Trump to lose the Dems have to produce another candidate other than Biden. The guy doesn’t even know where he is half the time. If Biden won he would be a puppet for the nutbars that run the DNC. It isn’t to late for them to get a progressive business leader like Bill Gates. Neither the DNC or the GOP have a clear philosophy. If they did Trump would never have got the nomination and the DNC would not be the gong show it is.

 

22 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

agree with that for sure, but I can't see anyone else at this point with everything going on. Gates would be great, but is there any kind of push for him? not sure how that would even happen. 

This is my thinking as well. Dems are going the way of the cons up here by putting up a bad choice for leader imo.

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17 minutes ago, Ronaldoescobar said:

 

This is my thinking as well. Dems are going the way of the cons up here by putting up a bad choice for leader imo.

Dems have a natural talent for failing to score on an empty net.  Maybe we can trade them Loui Eriksson?:lol:

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