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Too bad there is no consequences for violating the Hatch Act for administration officials.  If she had been employed by say the DOJ, there would have been a recommendation of termination.  As it stands, only TRUMP!! could demand her resignation.  Sad.

 

FYI for the but but Obama crowd, there were a total of TWO violations by TWO different violations.  The crypt keeper had 2 in 2018 and 11 in a more recent report for a total of 13.

 

https://www.newsweek.com/kellyanne-conway-subpoena-hatch-act-1446085

KELLYANNE CONWAY HAD MORE HATCH ACT VIOLATION REPORTS FILED AGAINST HER THAN ANYONE ELSE IN 30 YEARS

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3 hours ago, bishopshodan said:

You probably could have just gone ahead and used Obamas/Oranges.

 

Both sides want border security from what I see.

Trump has drawn his line in the sand, The Wall,  and is willing to let this crisis continue.

 

God those are some tough pictures to look at. The little girl with her arm around her dad. 

 

You're right, this shouldn't politicized. So, I don't know why Obama gets brought up? He's gone,  he was just as bad?...was he? does it matter?...the other guy is in charge now. He could do better. 

 

 

Obama gets brought up as it was the same issue and the same crap result - now there are simply far more of these people trying to enter a country that seemingly doesn't want them to enter without due process and somehow it is a political issue.   The point of Obama or Trump or anyone else is this isn't about a President, it is about an issue that the USA has not been able to sort out property and making it a debate issue or holding funding hostage to political motivation is simply not solving anything.

 

The guy in charge now is a train wreck but those who seem almost driven to insanity to get him out are offering nothing better than "sanctuary" "dreams" and "open borders with social safety nets" etc. etc....and as if THAT will stem the tide.   It must be horrific to be one of the pawns in this charade - and to feel you have to leave your place of birth to a country that seemingly doesn't even want to.   It must be horrific to be trying to enter through legal means and see yourself/family put through a system without any capacity while people illegally get embraced by some (and openly campaigned for as a potential President!).

 

Tough pictures but not due just to Trump (or Obama or Bush or......).    Solution will come from stopping the crap politics.   ADMIT you don't want everyone and then have a policy to allow the immigration you can handle and enforce it.   Get the countries that touch your borders to enforce it.   That is seemingly the only way to stop this insanity.    

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3 hours ago, coastal.view said:

i'm not convinced that will be fulsome testimony

we were led to believe hope hicks was willing to testify

and then objections were raised from the white house

which limited her testimony

 

we'll only know on july 17 what mueller is prepared to testify to or about

and what he will feel he is not able to for some reason we may still need to learn about

 

Mueller is not a Trump crony and has seems to have integrity..unlike Hicks. 

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9 minutes ago, CBH1926 said:

Maybe she’s Roberto Alomar’s cousin, and thought Eric Trump made a bad call?  

Really, spitting on someone is overly gross.  Call him an ass or something, but don’t spit on him.  

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To the surprise of no-one, the Supreme Court decided that Gerrymandering can continue and it was a decision that was made along partisan lines, with the Conservative majority overruling the Liberal minority.

 

Ruth Bader Ginsburg believes that this trend is destined to become more common:

 

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/07/politics/ruth-bader-ginsburg-gerrymandering-census/index.html

 

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Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg warned on Friday that the court is likely to be sharply divided in the coming weeks over some of the "most watched" cases that remain -- perhaps even giving a clue to how justices will rule on the fight over the 2020 census.

Her comments to the Second Circuit Judicial Conference in New York underscore the deep schisms on the newly solidified conservative court now that Justice Anthony Kennedy has been replaced by the younger and more conservative Justice Brett Kavanaugh. She made clear that she thinks Kennedy's retirement will impact not only the cases this term but also those for "many terms ahead."
Ginsburg did not reveal the vote count of some of the remaining opinions, but hinted there might be close divisions in cases such as a dispute concerning a citizenship question on the 2020 census, as well as the issue of extreme partisan gerrymandering.
In particular, Ginsburg compared the census case to last year's fight over the travel ban, where the court's 5-4 conservative majority sided with the executive branch.
She called the census dispute a "case of huge importance," noting that some have compared it to the travel ban case.
"Speculators about the outcome note that last year, in Trump v. Hawaii, the court upheld the so-called 'travel ban,' in an opinion granting great deference to the executive," Ginsburg said.
She said the challengers in the case believe that ruling in the government's favor "would stretch deference beyond the breaking point."
In another case, concerning the issue of extreme partisan gerrymandering, court watchers are waiting to see if the conservative majority is prepared to rule that such cases are better handled by the political branches than the courts.
Nodding to the dispute, Ginsburg said, "However one comes out on the legal issues, partisan gerrymandering unsettles the fundamental premise that people elect their representatives, not vice versa."
The speech was closed to the press, but the court released a copy of Ginsburg's remarks.

 

I'm guessing that this means Trump's newest attempt at voter suppression. the so-called "Census question" will also be approved. This is how the "law" works in the so-called "Greatest country on earth".:rolleyes:

 

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12 minutes ago, RUPERTKBD said:

To the surprise of no-one, the Supreme Court decided that Gerrymandering can continue and it was a decision that was made along partisan lines, with the Conservative majority overruling the Liberal minority.

 

Ruth Bader Ginsburg believes that this trend is destined to become more common:

 

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/07/politics/ruth-bader-ginsburg-gerrymandering-census/index.html

 

I'm guessing that this means Trump's newest attempt at voter suppression. the so-called "Census question" will also be approved. This is how the "law" works in the so-called "Greatest country on earth".:rolleyes:

 

Republicans by far are the most guilty of "I have the ball and unless you do EVERYTHING I say, I'm going home" politics.  Even when Democrats have the majority they can powerless (https://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/oregon-republicans-skip-town-to-avoid-voting-on-democratic-climate-bill-1.5190936).  Anything to stick to those socialist Democrats!

 

Edit:  The US has to find a way out of this or else they are going to be held hostage by the far right agenda for the foreseeable future.

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20 minutes ago, RUPERTKBD said:

To the surprise of no-one, the Supreme Court decided that Gerrymandering can continue and it was a decision that was made along partisan lines, with the Conservative majority overruling the Liberal minority.

 

Ruth Bader Ginsburg believes that this trend is destined to become more common:

 

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/07/politics/ruth-bader-ginsburg-gerrymandering-census/index.html

 

I'm guessing that this means Trump's newest attempt at voter suppression. the so-called "Census question" will also be approved. This is how the "law" works in the so-called "Greatest country on earth".:rolleyes:

 

It'd odd that the party of small government is also the one stripping people of their power. Thought Republicans are supposed to be vehemently against that? Guess it only applies to guns and lgbt. 

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15 minutes ago, Duodenum said:

It'd odd that the party of small government is also the one stripping people of their power. Thought Republicans are supposed to be vehemently against that? Guess it only applies to guns and lgbt. 

This is a government bent on control. They will do anything to get it too. They know that they can mould their base to do their bidding, and play off their jingoistic fears to do so.

 

This political party is a sociopathic organization that craves power over all else.

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1 hour ago, RUPERTKBD said:

To the surprise of no-one, the Supreme Court decided that Gerrymandering can continue and it was a decision that was made along partisan lines, with the Conservative majority overruling the Liberal minority.

 

Ruth Bader Ginsburg believes that this trend is destined to become more common:

 

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/07/politics/ruth-bader-ginsburg-gerrymandering-census/index.html

 

I'm guessing that this means Trump's newest attempt at voter suppression. the so-called "Census question" will also be approved. This is how the "law" works in the so-called "Greatest country on earth".:rolleyes:

 

Go figure but the Supreme Court actually struck down the citizenship question: 

 

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1 hour ago, RUPERTKBD said:

To the surprise of no-one, the Supreme Court decided that Gerrymandering can continue and it was a decision that was made along partisan lines, with the Conservative majority overruling the Liberal minority.

 

Ruth Bader Ginsburg believes that this trend is destined to become more common:

 

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/07/politics/ruth-bader-ginsburg-gerrymandering-census/index.html

 

I'm guessing that this means Trump's newest attempt at voter suppression. the so-called "Census question" will also be approved. This is how the "law" works in the so-called "Greatest country on earth".:rolleyes:

 

Democracy?

I can understand the Supreme Court's ruling on gerrymandering from a legal perspective.  However, it's not right from a fairness perspective.  Again, the US does not do what's right.  

Again, there will be no real change in the US attitude, no matter who is elected.  There society is beyond repair.  

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34 minutes ago, HerrDrFunk said:

Go figure but the Supreme Court actually struck down the citizenship question: 

 

Somehow Ross is losing money on this... No way he goes to such great lengths to get the question on the census without something in it for him.

 

And when did John Roberts become a socialist communist fascist?

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Well, now you either believe the victim and the two women she told, or TRUMP!!.  MMmmmmmm

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/27/us/politics/jean-carroll-trump-sexual-assault.html

Two Women Who Heard E. Jean Carroll’s Account of Being Attacked by Trump Go Public

The women, Carol Martin and Lisa Birnbach, said Ms. Carroll confided in them in the 1990s. The president has denied sexually assaulting her.

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4 hours ago, thedestroyerofworlds said:

Well, now you either believe the victim and the two women she told, or TRUMP!!.  MMmmmmmm

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/27/us/politics/jean-carroll-trump-sexual-assault.html

Two Women Who Heard E. Jean Carroll’s Account of Being Attacked by Trump Go Public

The women, Carol Martin and Lisa Birnbach, said Ms. Carroll confided in them in the 1990s. The president has denied sexually assaulting her.

...Trump then dusts off his calendar for that year, points to the date in question which reads “Rolling around in Cheetos with Poof and Squeak!!!”

 

Case closed... nothing to see here... Republican Justice 

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16 hours ago, Canorth said:

...Trump then dusts off his calendar for that year, points to the date in question which reads “Rolling around in Cheetos with Poof and Squeak!!!”

 

Case closed... nothing to see here... Republican Justice 

Next up, Trump raped Hillary!

 

Throw enough sh!t at the wall, hopefully something will stick, right?

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26 minutes ago, nux4lyfe said:

Next up, Trump raped Hillary!

 

Throw enough sh!t at the wall, hopefully something will stick, right?

If a bird quacks, I'm gonna think it might be a duck.

Donald Trump has been recorded bragging about sexually assaulting women. His voice, his words...

This is why these many allegations get traction with people. 

 

Let me know if you have any other questions.

 

 

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6 minutes ago, bishopshodan said:

If a bird quacks, I'm gonna think it might be a duck.

Donald Trump has been recorded bragging about sexually assaulting women. His voice, his words...

This is why these many allegations get traction with people. 

 

Let me know if you have any other questions.

 

 

Yupp, The min this guy got in office he's been under attack . left and right (pun intended).

Sexually assaulting and woman willing are two different things.

Not once has he been proven guilty of anything..But of course you are such a saint, You wouldn't brag. #lockerroomchatter

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13 minutes ago, nux4lyfe said:

Yupp, The min this guy got in office he's been under attack . left and right (pun intended).

Sexually assaulting and woman willing are two different things.

Not once has he been proven guilty of anything..But of course you are such a saint, You wouldn't brag. #lockerroomchatter

Oh, well before he got into office. He has been annoying people for a while. You should read the early part of this thread.

But regarding sexual assault, maybe you read the below and see only  "they let you do it'

That still doesn't exonerate him in my opinion, because in the same quote ..' I Just start kissing' 'I don't even wait' 

and the best...a line I had never heard before him...despite many team sports, never in  a locker room....'Grab 'em by the p*ssy'

 

I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know I'm automatically attracted to beautiful—I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab 'em by the pussy. You can do anything.

 

When I think of the last part, of all the women I have met, the percentage that would enjoy even a man they are attracted too just grabbing them there ..straight of the bat. Is slim to....nah actually none.

 

You're last comment is strange, I've already established that I think he is bragging about forcing himself on women, a crime. That is something I have never heard anyone brag about. I might call the police if I did. Or knock them out.

 

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