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7 minutes ago, canuckster19 said:

And people talk about the 2022 Canadian Olympic roster, thinking we should even be going... I guess some genocides are less equal than others?  

 

Just now, 6of1_halfdozenofother said:

I would love it if the western democracies (what was it they called themselves, the D20 or something?) were to hold their own Games after they pulled out of the 2022 Winter Olympics.  That would allow their athletes to not have their training and preparation be in vain, and give the big fat middle finger to both the ccp and the ioc (who appears to love themselves and their authoritarian hosts more than the greater good of the world).

I've been on the boycott Beijing bandwagon for quite some time....

 

....but I think you're correct canuckster....I've heard very little along those line officially...

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1 hour ago, 4petesake said:


Over on the coronavirus thread @RUPERTKBD commented on the G7 family photo being mocked as awkward on late night tv so I thought I’d post this here. This is how the CCP is satirizing the latest  G7 meeting.

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I think they missed an opportunity here....that cross should have a Panda nailed to it...

 

.....seeing as they're such martyrs....:rolleyes:

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1 minute ago, Tortorella's Rant said:

I mean, "this is our nominee, he is now on the Supreme Court effectively of right now. If you don't like it - tough $&!#." And then keep on keeping on. 

Unfortunately, that's not how it works in the US Senate. Unless the majority party is willing to act in a completely unilateral fashion, the minority has the ability to block pretty much any legislation they don't like.

 

With the current partisan nature of US politics, that means everything the majority tries to do.

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10 minutes ago, canuckster19 said:

I will never forgive them for what they've done.

Likewise. The CCP is a vile political organization. They can't be trusted and shouldn't be. 

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8 hours ago, 4petesake said:


Over on the coronavirus thread @RUPERTKBD commented on the G7 family photo being mocked as awkward on late night tv so I thought I’d post this here. This is how the CCP is satirizing the latest  G7 meeting.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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While the ccp are a bunch of @$$holes so are these guys.

Who has

caused more conflicts,pain and suffering on this planet in the last 200 years,China or these guys ?

Who still sends their young men to die in more illegal wars/ pointless conflicts ?

 

But hey who remembers history.

Most people have forgotten what happened last week.

 

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6 hours ago, PhillipBlunt said:

Likewise. The CCP is a vile political organization. They can't be trusted and shouldn't be. 

Totally agree.

They are nearly as vile as the Republican party.

 

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49 minutes ago, Ilunga said:

Totally agree.

They are nearly as vile as the Republican party.

 

 

43 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said:

They’re worse. 

The only party worse than the ccp were the national socialist party of Germany, but the ccp is definitely making a bid to pass them within this decade.

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1 hour ago, PhillipBlunt said:

They’re worse. 

Well let's address Both parties involvement in conflicts abroad-inflicting pain on others-.

since the CCP's inception.

US conflicts , Korea,Vietnam,Laos, Nicaragua,Iraq just to name a few.

I remember posting how many elections they have tampered with,dictators they have supported.

Apart from supporting North Korea for strategic reasons and claiming places like Tibet, Hong Kong and Taiwan who have they @#_#@$ with ?

 

While the ccp/Ping wants to control his people he has not illegally invaded any country.

 

I remember a decade or so back we had a record wheat harvest when many other major suppliers had bad ones.

What did our government do ?

Sold it at an exbortatant profit to China,they bought it to make sure their people had food,meanwhile here where it was produced there was a shortage of bread and flour and prices skyrocketed.

 

Here in the west we think we are somehow "better" than China.

Our turds are just more polished.

I suggest you research the military component of Obama's pivot to Asia policy and you will find valid reasons why China feels the need to push back.

 

In saying all of this I repudiate the CCP's efforts to quash democracy.

They are just more blatant than say the repugs who push through voter repression laws.

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1 hour ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said:

 

The only party worse than the ccp were the national socialist party of Germany, but the ccp is definitely making a bid to pass them within this decade.

 

1 hour ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said:

 

The only party worse than the ccp were the national socialist party of Germany, but the ccp is definitely making a bid to pass them within this decade.

Haven't noticed them invading other nations like Germany did.

Their treatment of the Uighurs still pales in comparison to the genocide committed by the Germans.

And that pales in comparison to the over 20 million people whose deaths can be attributed to Stalin.

 

Sapiens will be Sapiens.

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2 hours ago, Ilunga said:

 

Haven't noticed them invading other nations like Germany did.

Their treatment of the Uighurs still pales in comparison to the genocide committed by the Germans.

And that pales in comparison to the over 20 million people whose deaths can be attributed to Stalin.

 

Sapiens will be Sapiens.

Clearly you missed the part about the great leap forward, where estimate range up to 55 million people died.  Stalin?  Whatever.  Mao's got him beat handily.

 

As for warfare, Sun Tzu's "The Art of War" is predicated on physical warfare being the lowest, basest form of warfare, and that compelling your adversaries to submit without use of physical force is the highest form of the art.  The ccp has opted to use economic means to compel others to submit to them, with their belt/road initiative being the most recent mechanism to economically enslave lesser nations into vassal states.  All that money they're throwing around to supposedly help bring other countries' infrastructure up to modern standards?  A massive debt trap is what that is.  Who needs to invade other states when you can subjugate them without expending a soldier's life or a bullet casing?

 

As for the genocide that's being committed by the ccp - you have no idea whether or not their methods and treatment are any less harsh or inhumane than what the Nazis did in their time.  At this moment, there's no official public record on the ccp's actions in XJ, and the ccp is doing their best to keep it that way.  However, the unofficial or anecdotal bits and pieces that are coming out (and indirect information such as declining birth rates and ethnic composition in the region - a region where they used to be in the overwhelming majority, but now are a minority) point to something that is at least as massive in scope in stamping out a culture and its adherence to its religion and societal norms as what the Nazis did to the Jews.  The region is home to about 11 million ethnic Uyghurs, and of that population, millions are detained and estimates have been given that about 5-10% of the imprisoned die each year; there is no official death toll (the ccp wouldn't be so dumb as to allow that figure to be released), but one estimate pegged it at about 1 million deaths since 2017.

 

It should also be pointed out that the ccp inherited XJ (East Turkestan) from the KMT, who in turn inherited it from the Ching/Qing dynasty.  XJ, Tibet, Inner Mongolia (where they're also doing a number on the local ethnicity) - these are technically occupied territories, remnants of an Imperial China that the ccp views as vile, but yet they are also quick to embrace the fruits of those predecessors' labours.

 

Your national government was smart to break the links forged by Victoria State in wanting to embrace the belt/road initiative.  Your country would have been in chains had they proceeded to shackle themselves through accepting this gifted trojan horse.

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2 hours ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said:

Clearly you missed the part about the great leap forward, where estimate range up to 55 million people died.  Stalin?  Whatever.  Mao's got him beat handily.

 

As for warfare, Sun Tzu's "The Art of War" is predicated on physical warfare being the lowest, basest form of warfare, and that compelling your adversaries to submit without use of physical force is the highest form of the art.  The ccp has opted to use economic means to compel others to submit to them, with their belt/road initiative being the most recent mechanism to economically enslave lesser nations into vassal states.  All that money they're throwing around to supposedly help bring other countries' infrastructure up to modern standards?  A massive debt trap is what that is.  Who needs to invade other states when you can subjugate them without expending a soldier's life or a bullet casing?

 

As for the genocide that's being committed by the ccp - you have no idea whether or not their methods and treatment are any less harsh or inhumane than what the Nazis did in their time.  At this moment, there's no official public record on the ccp's actions in XJ, and the ccp is doing their best to keep it that way.  However, the unofficial or anecdotal bits and pieces that are coming out (and indirect information such as declining birth rates and ethnic composition in the region - a region where they used to be in the overwhelming majority, but now are a minority) point to something that is at least as massive in scope in stamping out a culture and its adherence to its religion and societal norms as what the Nazis did to the Jews.  The region is home to about 11 million ethnic Uyghurs, and of that population, millions are detained and estimates have been given that about 5-10% of the imprisoned die each year; there is no official death toll (the ccp wouldn't be so dumb as to allow that figure to be released), but one estimate pegged it at about 1 million deaths since 2017.

 

It should also be pointed out that the ccp inherited XJ (East Turkestan) from the KMT, who in turn inherited it from the Ching/Qing dynasty.  XJ, Tibet, Inner Mongolia (where they're also doing a number on the local ethnicity) - these are technically occupied territories, remnants of an Imperial China that the ccp views as vile, but yet they are also quick to embrace the fruits of those predecessors' labours.

 

Your national government was smart to break the links forged by Victoria State in wanting to embrace the belt/road initiative.  Your country would have been in chains had they proceeded to shackle themselves through accepting this gifted trojan horse.

I note your passion clouds your judgement, understandable,you are emotionally caught up in events in Hong Kong.

 

As for the great leap forward Estimates state between

15 -55 million deaths and he was trying to help his people,he just got it wrong.

His tried to do too much,too soon.

To compare him to Hitler and Stalin is ludicrous.

 

As I have already stated nothing China has done so far can compare to American interventionism in the last 70 years.

 

https://davidswanson.org/warlist/

 

As the article states most countries polled by Gallop in 2014 called the United States the greatest threat to world peace and a follow up poll by Pew in 2017 found that viewpoint increased.

 

 

The US has used Money, Arms and drugs to fund their conflicts, destabilize democratically elected governments and generally @#$@ with those who don't follow their program.

Under their pivot to Asia they have set up a string of bases and nuclear subs whose only function can be to intimidate China.

Imagine if China set up bases as close to the US as the US has done to China.

 

AS you have stated no-one knows what China is doing in regards to the Uighurs.

At worst it will be just what Americans did to their first nations people or we did to ours.

And how we still continue to persecute minorities in our countries.

 

My state government would not have been in chains as you describe in flowery terms.

I Know the terms of the deal our premier made and I am pissed that the federal government stepped in,using xenophobic fear mongering to shut it down.

Thanks to the attitudes of people like you members of the Chinese community here in Melbourne are now experiencing more racist attacks.

 

 

 

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5 hours ago, Ilunga said:

 

 

As for the great leap forward Estimates state between

15 -55 million deaths and he was trying to help his people,he just got it wrong.

His tried to do too much,too soon.

To compare him to Hitler and Stalin is ludicrous.

 

 

 

 

Those don’t jive. 

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1 hour ago, gurn said:

So was Hitler.

And Stalin.

And Genghis Kahn.

 

They "just" got it wrong too.

For the times I'd say Genghis Khan got it right. 

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Step 1:  Gets too cold, can't handle it.

Step 2:  Gets too hot, also can't handle it.

Step 3:  Profit.

Ain't deregulated utilities awesome.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/unplanned-outages-hit-texas-power-plants-amid-soaring-temperatures-n1270827

'Unplanned' outages hit Texas power plants in soaring temperatures

One official said he was "deeply concerned" about the number of offline plants.
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6 minutes ago, thedestroyerofworlds said:

Step 1:  Gets too cold, can't handle it.

Step 2:  Gets too hot, also can't handle it.

Step 3:  Profit.

Ain't deregulated utilities awesome.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/unplanned-outages-hit-texas-power-plants-amid-soaring-temperatures-n1270827

'Unplanned' outages hit Texas power plants in soaring temperatures

One official said he was "deeply concerned" about the number of offline plants.


Fines for non-compliance by gas and electricity companies ordered to winterize critical infrastructure are listed as $5000 per day or $1.825 million per year. Minuscule when compared to the billions of dollars of profit they earned in the “Texas Freeze.” Nothing short of Leipsic on a pig to give the appearance of action by those in power.

 

It couldn’t be more obvious that keeping the electrical grid un-regulated by the Feds has been a massive and deadly money grab.

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