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On 8/5/2021 at 11:53 AM, RUPERTKBD said:

BTW, is everyone aware that Tucker Carlson did shows from Budapest earlier this week?

 

Apparently, he's a fan of Viktor Orban, which makes sense, since Orban is an anti-immigrant, anti-Muslim authoritarian leader who has demonized the media, trampled societal norms, tried to rig elections (successfully, if most European observers are to be believed) and has built a "wall" on it's border with Serbia, ostensibly to protect against a "migrant invasion"....

 

Not only that, but he also sent the bill for the wall's construction to the EU.... https://www.dw.com/en/hungarys-viktor-orban-sends-eu-a-border-fence-bill/a-40319972

 

In short, Orban is what Trump would be if he had his wish:. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/9/13/17823488/hungary-democracy-authoritarianism-trump

 

Tucker is also slated to give a speech to Orban's Far-Right party to cap off his "vacation".

 

I guess the question is: Is Tucker Carlson an actual racist and bigot, or does he just pretend to be one for money? (I can't imagine his speech to Orban's party will happen for free)

 

What we do know is that TC is an actual POS and it's too bad he doesn't stay in Hungary permanently, just to see how life is under real dictator, instead of a wannabe...

 

Fox news is so compromised its hilarious. The fact anyone believes Tucker as any kind of good faith actor is laughable at best.

 

Personality wise Tucker has stepped into the big role at Fox - and good for him (sure he's making the big $$$) - but for anyone who operates in good faith he's largely worth disregarding. Maybe there's times where he brings something legitimate to the table but... He either over-dramatizes it, or you can find it elsewhere (more reputably). 

 

*Personally* I think both CNN & Fox are ultimately tools for their respective parties/narratives. But Fox doesn't even try to disguise it, its so transparent.

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50 minutes ago, Smashian Kassian said:

 

Fox news is so compromised its hilarious. The fact anyone believes Tucker as any kind of good faith actor is laughable at best.

 

Personality wise Tucker has stepped into the big role at Fox - and good for him (sure he's making the big $$$) - but for anyone who operates in good faith he's largely worth disregarding. Maybe there's times where he brings something legitimate to the table but... He either over-dramatizes it, or you can find it elsewhere (more reputably). 

 

*Personally* I think both CNN & Fox are ultimately tools for their respective parties/narratives. But Fox doesn't even try to disguise it, its so transparent.

You are mistaken about Fox.

Fox does what its owner Rupert Murdoch tells it to not what the Republican party wants.

ATM he feels he has more control over politics in the states by seeming to be the mouth piece for the Republican party.

 

Check out the doco if you are really interested.

He has " changed sides" a few times both here in Aus and in Britian when it suits his ends,ie he feels he is controlling events.

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1 minute ago, Ilunga said:

You are mistaken about Fox.

Fox does what its owner Rupert Murdoch tells it to not what the Republican party wants.

ATM he feels he has more control over politics in the states by seeming to be the mouth piece for the Republican party.

 

Check out the doco if you are really interested.

He has " changed sides" a few times both here in Aus and in Britian when it suits his ends,ie he feels he is controlling events.

 

Appreciate the insight. I guess the bolded it what it seems like from a layman POV, but I don't doubt what your saying.

 

So this guy is essentially a major driving force in political discourse across multiple western/1st world countries? That's pretty wild. Do u know the name of the doco? Its interesting atleast, I might have to look it up. 

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8 minutes ago, Ilunga said:

You are mistaken about Fox.

Fox does what its owner Rupert Murdoch tells it to not what the Republican party wants.

ATM he feels he has more control over politics in the states by seeming to be the mouth piece for the Republican party.

 

Check out the doco if you are really interested.

He has " changed sides" a few times both here in Aus and in Britian when it suits his ends,ie he feels he is controlling events.


Trump reportedly had a meltdown when Murdoch ordered Fox to call Arizona for Biden, “F*ck him, a very disloyal guy!”

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13 minutes ago, Smashian Kassian said:

 

Appreciate the insight. I guess the bolded it what it seems like from a layman POV, but I don't doubt what your saying.

 

So this guy is essentially a major driving force in political discourse across multiple western/1st world countries? That's pretty wild. Do u know the name of the doco? Its interesting atleast, I might have to look it up. 

I posted the link 7 posts above this one.

 

This man is truly a piece of work.

 

His mother was a wonderful person.....go figure 

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12 minutes ago, 4petesake said:


Trump reportedly had a meltdown when Murdoch ordered Fox to call Arizona for Biden, “F*ck him, a very disloyal guy!”

Check the doco out.

 

Murdoch managed to turn his father's national media empire into a truly international media conglomerate that can be a "king maker".

 

Trump was sticking his nose so far up Rupert's butt before that happened.

He still would if he thinks it would help him.

 

I apologise on behalf of all Australians for him.

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10 hours ago, Smashian Kassian said:

 

Fox news is so compromised its hilarious. The fact anyone believes Tucker as any kind of good faith actor is laughable at best.

 

Personality wise Tucker has stepped into the big role at Fox - and good for him (sure he's making the big $$$) - but for anyone who operates in good faith he's largely worth disregarding. Maybe there's times where he brings something legitimate to the table but... He either over-dramatizes it, or you can find it elsewhere (more reputably). 

 

*Personally* I think both CNN & Fox are ultimately tools for their respective parties/narratives. But Fox doesn't even try to disguise it, its so transparent.

Comrade Tucker is one of my favourite memes

 

Part of me is starting to think that Tucker is a closet commie.

 

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10 hours ago, Smashian Kassian said:

 

Appreciate the insight. I guess the bolded it what it seems like from a layman POV, but I don't doubt what your saying.

 

So this guy is essentially a major driving force in political discourse across multiple western/1st world countries? That's pretty wild. Do u know the name of the doco? Its interesting atleast, I might have to look it up. 

At one point he owned around 80% of English print media world wide.  I think only Canada and New Zealand were spared that. 

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Remember when Trump supporters used to talk about what a "great businessman" he is?

 

Back in '84, he had the chance to buy the Dallas Cowboys for 50 million dollars, but passed, because he didn't see any way for the value of the franchise to go up.:rolleyes: Instead, he bought the New Jersey Generals of the USFL for 10 million....:picard:

 

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/nfl/nfl-world-reacts-to-donald-trumps-old-cowboys-comment/ar-AAN4Up0?li=AAggNb9

 

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Back in 1984, Donald Trump had a chance to purchase the Dallas Cowboys for $50 million – yes, you read that correctly. Instead, the now-former United States president decided to purchase the New Jersey Generals of the USFL for $10 million.

“I feel sorry for the poor guy who is going to buy the Dallas Cowboys,” Trump said. “It’s a no-win situation for him, because if he wins, well, so what, they’ve won through the years, and if he loses, which seems likely because they’re having troubles, he’ll be known to the world as a loser.”

Trump added: “I could have bought an NFL club for $40 million or $50 million, but it’s established and you would just see it move laterally. Not enough to create there.”

A couple of years later, Jerry Jones purchased the Cowboys for $140 million. Decades later, America’s Team is worth more than $6 billion.

Forbes named the Cowboys the most-valuable franchise in the NFL at $6.5 billion.

Fans are now thinking about what could have been if Trump had purchased the Cowboys back in the 1980s.

“Yeah but he would’ve screwed them up worse than Jerry has, and they’d never have traded Herschel Walker for all those picks that led them to 90s glory and a higher valuation,” one fan tweeted.

“I would have felt sorry too. The dude who bought it in ‘84 had to sell it 5 years later during the Savings and Loan Crisis. Then Jerry Jones bought it in ‘89,” another fan added.

“I was under the impression the other owners would have to vote to allow you into an ownership role. Did they vote to approve him as an owner?” one fan wondered.

Donald Trump, NFL owner, certainly would have been interesting to follow. It’s also fair to wonder if he would have gone on to a career in politics if he owned an established NFL team.

Alas, Jerry Jones still owns the Cowboys and will continue to reap the benefits.

 

A very stable genius.... :lol:

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13 minutes ago, RUPERTKBD said:

Remember when Trump supporters used to talk about what a "great businessman" he is?

 

Back in '84, he had the chance to buy the Dallas Cowboys for 50 million dollars, but passed, because he didn't see any way for the value of the franchise to go up.:rolleyes: Instead, he bought the New Jersey Generals of the USFL for 10 million....:picard:

 

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/nfl/nfl-world-reacts-to-donald-trumps-old-cowboys-comment/ar-AAN4Up0?li=AAggNb9

 

A very stable genius.... :lol:

Man, that was a blunder.  

 

 

https://www.si.com/nfl/cowboys/news/jerry-jones-dallas-cowboys-champions-again-world-most-valuable-sports-franchise

Dallas Cowboys Named World's Most Valuable Sports Franchise at $5.7B

The Dallas Cowboys still sit atop the list of the world's most valuable sports franchises, according to Forbes' latest annual list.
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43 minutes ago, thedestroyerofworlds said:

Man, that was a blunder.  

 

 

https://www.si.com/nfl/cowboys/news/jerry-jones-dallas-cowboys-champions-again-world-most-valuable-sports-franchise

Dallas Cowboys Named World's Most Valuable Sports Franchise at $5.7B

The Dallas Cowboys still sit atop the list of the world's most valuable sports franchises, according to Forbes' latest annual list.

Bleacher report has it at 6.5 billion.....but either way you look at it, if Bone Spurs had made that purchase, his investment would have been recouped between 114 and 130 times over.

 

I'd have to guess that his investment in the USFL team resulted in yet another tax write off.....

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On 8/5/2021 at 11:53 AM, RUPERTKBD said:

BTW, is everyone aware that Tucker Carlson did shows from Budapest earlier this week?

 

Apparently, he's a fan of Viktor Orban, which makes sense, since Orban is an anti-immigrant, anti-Muslim authoritarian leader who has demonized the media, trampled societal norms, tried to rig elections (successfully, if most European observers are to be believed) and has built a "wall" on it's border with Serbia, ostensibly to protect against a "migrant invasion"....

 

Not only that, but he also sent the bill for the wall's construction to the EU.... https://www.dw.com/en/hungarys-viktor-orban-sends-eu-a-border-fence-bill/a-40319972

 

In short, Orban is what Trump would be if he had his wish:. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/9/13/17823488/hungary-democracy-authoritarianism-trump

 

Tucker is also slated to give a speech to Orban's Far-Right party to cap off his "vacation".

 

I guess the question is: Is Tucker Carlson an actual racist and bigot, or does he just pretend to be one for money? (I can't imagine his speech to Orban's party will happen for free)

 

What we do know is that TC is an actual POS and it's too bad he doesn't stay in Hungary permanently, just to see how life is under real dictator, instead of a wannabe...

Tucker's dad was a director on one of the lobby firms in DC for that same Orban.  "Follow the money"

 

 

 

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33 minutes ago, NewbieCanuckFan said:

 

 

 So many people in the US are separated by a huge divide and appear to hate one another.  A lot of Archie Bunkers and George Jeffersons.  They only come together if there is someone they hate more than one another.  This is a recipe for government creating an outside target for common hatred, and war.  

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8 hours ago, Alflives said:

 So many people in the US are separated by a huge divide and appear to hate one another.  A lot of Archie Bunkers and George Jeffersons.  They only come together if there is someone they hate more than one another.  This is a recipe for government creating an outside target for common hatred, and war.  

Most of the hatred comes from what most people describe as the right.

Most of them are religious.

Their prophets and religious texts tell them to love their fellow human being's,

to be tolerant.

 

It seems they only pay attention to the texts that they try to interpret as reasons to persecute their fellow human being's.

 

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4 hours ago, Ilunga said:

Most of the hatred comes from what most people describe as the right.

Most of them are religious.

Their prophets and religious texts tell them to love their fellow human being's,

to be tolerant.

 

It seems they only pay attention to the texts that they try to interpret as reasons to persecute their fellow human being's.

 

Abrahamic faiths worship the same God, and they sure do espouse hate.  But this hatred in the US is different.  It’s a false political divide that is entrenched in their society on almost every level.  

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14 hours ago, spur1 said:

The Trump “Midas” touch is to turn what ever he touches into sheet. 

The Hollies did a song about that.....

 

 

It's uncanny. If you listen to the lyrics they're describing Trump perfectly.....in 1967.....

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Religion seems instead of bringing people together, it sows hatred. And worse seems to be intent on control, power and money, and not your spiritual well being. 

 

I can't figure out what people see in Trump. He's a con man, and a spoiled brat. With a series of trophy wives, and bankruptcies. Come on this is a guy who built a casino in Atlantic City and it failed. 

 

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