RUPERTKBD 27,563 Posted October 21, 2020 10 minutes ago, Zfetch said: No man. Trump is committing tax avoidance if anything not tax evasion. Learn your concepts before you speak out about them. Sure thing perfesser....I'll make sure I study up on that before the mid-term.... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zfetch 6,274 Posted October 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Warhippy said: Again, seems to me that if that's the case he has nothing to hide. So why is he hiding it? As well, are you an American or Canadian certified accountant? Why do you assume he's "hiding" his tax returns. There's absolutely no reason for him to make those publically available other than for the media to make another article. Do you want to post your tax returns for us to see here? The IRS will handle that side of his finances. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Lock 5,491 Posted October 21, 2020 Just now, Zfetch said: Why do you assume he's "hiding" his tax returns. There's absolutely no reason for him to make those publically available other than for the media to make another article. Do you want to post your tax returns for us to see here? The IRS will handle that side of his finances. https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/518728-ex-watergate-prosecutor-predicts-trump-charges-on-tax-evasion-after Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zfetch 6,274 Posted October 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, The Lock said: Trump has been performing illegal activities to avoid paying taxes among other things. If you think that's tax avoidance, I'm glad you're not my accountant. lol Source? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Lock 5,491 Posted October 21, 2020 Just now, Zfetch said: Source? There won't be solid accounts yet, but there's a lot of indication he's going to get charged for it once he's out of office. They can't do it when he's in supposedly. I provided you a link above. There were a lot of articles on it. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zfetch 6,274 Posted October 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, The Lock said: https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/518728-ex-watergate-prosecutor-predicts-trump-charges-on-tax-evasion-after Someone who is not on Trumps accounting team "predicting" something is not a reliable source. 1 minute ago, The Lock said: There won't be solid accounts yet, but there's a lot of indication he's going to get charged for it once he's out of office. They can't do it when he's in supposedly. I provided you a link above. There were a lot of articles on it. When he does get charged for tax evasion, as you claim, I will change my tune. But as of now he is only certain to have committed tax avoidance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Lock 5,491 Posted October 21, 2020 Just now, Zfetch said: Someone who is not on Trumps accounting team "predicting" something is not a reliable source. When he does get charged for tax evasion, as you claim, I will change my tune. But as of now he is only certain to have committed tax avoidance. Here's another article on it that's better: https://indianexpress.com/article/explained/donald-trump-tax-evasion-us-presidential-elections-2020-6622941/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Zfetch 6,274 Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) Mfw I cite accounting concepts and others keep citing media -.- 13 minutes ago, The Lock said: Here's another article on it that's better: https://indianexpress.com/article/explained/donald-trump-tax-evasion-us-presidential-elections-2020-6622941/ The very credible indianexpress states Quote What is the scale of tax evasion? According to the NYT calculations, over the past two decades, Trump has paid about $400 million less in combined federal income taxes than a very wealthy person who paid the average for the highest-earning 0.001% of tax filers in the US. While the tax rates applicable for the richest Americans have declined over the decades, with the wealthy exploiting several “loopholes” to bring down their liabilities, The NYT notes that “most affluent people still pay a lot of federal income tax”. The writer of this article doesn't even know what they're talking about. Nothing in this paragraph is even related to tax evasion. Some of you really ought to learn what incentivizes each and every article out there / how a news outlet operates for profit. Maybe then you'll do a bit more due diligence than thinking you know tax because of an article that a writer creates. Edited October 21, 2020 by Zfetch mfw mobile formatting Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Warhippy 31,086 Posted October 21, 2020 16 minutes ago, Zfetch said: Why do you assume he's "hiding" his tax returns. There's absolutely no reason for him to make those publically available other than for the media to make another article. Do you want to post your tax returns for us to see here? The IRS will handle that side of his finances. Sure. I can post mine. I have NOTHING to hide. But when my name, my legacy and everything I've built has been the subject of ridicule, it behooves me as a man to [produce evidence to defend myself, as such I'd produce everything down to the receipt for the chewing gum I bought back in 2009 to clear my name. As there are serious allegations against him there is PLENTY of reason for him to produce his returns. Luckily the New York Times already gave us a moderate sample and *gasp* looks a lot like that evasion thing you are saying didn't happen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zfetch 6,274 Posted October 21, 2020 Just now, Warhippy said: Sure. I can post mine. I have NOTHING to hide. But when my name, my legacy and everything I've built has been the subject of ridicule, it behooves me as a man to [produce evidence to defend myself, as such I'd produce everything down to the receipt for the chewing gum I bought back in 2009 to clear my name. As there are serious allegations against him there is PLENTY of reason for him to produce his returns. Luckily the New York Times already gave us a moderate sample and *gasp* looks a lot like that evasion thing you are saying didn't happen. Walk it like you talk it. Post your tax returns from 2009-current 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surtur 1,057 Posted October 21, 2020 29 minutes ago, PistolPete13 said: On Tuesday when he posted the comment he used the term he hasn’t campaigned for the past four days. How does that include Thursday? To help you figure this out: On Tuesday the past four days were Monday Sunday, Saturday, Friday. That wasn’t too hard, now was it? Didn't he say he wont campaign for 4 days from Sunday around noon until the debate Thursday night. that is 4 days. not 4 days prior to the post. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo 2,732 Posted October 21, 2020 25 minutes ago, Zfetch said: No but accounting is my field and I know the difference between tax avoidance and tax evasion Which one would cover exaggerating building values to get financing? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Lock 5,491 Posted October 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Zfetch said: Mfw I cite accounting concepts and others keep citing media -.- The very credible indianexpress states The writer of this article doesn't even know what they're talking about. Nothing in this paragraph is even related to tax evasion. Some of you really ought to learn what incentivizes each and every article out there / how a news outlet operates for profit. Maybe then you'll do a bit more due diligence than thinking you know tax because of an article that a writer creates. I think you're going to be surprised in a couple of years time; as well as a lot of Republicans for that matter; just how corrupt things are compared with what the public knows now. I don't need to squabble with you right now because I am confident in what's to come. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Warhippy 31,086 Posted October 21, 2020 14 minutes ago, Zfetch said: Someone who is not on Trumps accounting team "predicting" something is not a reliable source. When he does get charged for tax evasion, as you claim, I will change my tune. But as of now he is only certain to have committed tax avoidance. Curious. How do you feel about the Hunter Biden issue? Do you feel as though the allegations are in fact meriting a serious investigation? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Warhippy 31,086 Posted October 21, 2020 Just now, Zfetch said: Walk it like you talk it. Post your tax returns from 2009-current Answer a few questions first before I opt to release my information including my sin number and personal financial information. Why am I, a literal nobody being held to a higher standard than you'd hold the supposed leader of the free world? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surtur 1,057 Posted October 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, The Lock said: I think you're going to be surprised in a couple of years time; as well as a lot of Republicans for that matter; just how corrupt things are compared with what the public knows now. I don't need to squabble with you right now because I am confident in what's to come. Same could be said for the Democrats plenty of corruption to go around in the game of politics. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zfetch 6,274 Posted October 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Warhippy said: Curious. How do you feel about the Hunter Biden issue? Do you feel as though the allegations are in fact meriting a serious investigation? I don't tend to voice a political opinion. I'm just here to get the facts straight with regards to tax, something I'd actually know what I'm talking about. I don't know politics. Not here to pick a side. Not qualified enough to give a legitimate assertion for either party. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Lock 5,491 Posted October 21, 2020 Just now, surtur said: Same could be said for the Democrats plenty of corruption to go around in the game of politics. Not nearly as much as Trump's party at the moment. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zfetch 6,274 Posted October 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Warhippy said: Answer a few questions first before I opt to release my information including my sin number and personal financial information. Why am I, a literal nobody being held to a higher standard than you'd hold the supposed leader of the free world? You don't get to make that statement as you refuse to release your taxes, by the terms of the CRA you have in fact potentially committed Tax fraud and evasion but as of this moment you are free from investigation at the federal level. Which is why you are fighting at the CDC level to keep your records sealed See how silly it is to make these assumptions based off news articles and your opinion of him "hiding" his returns === him guilty of tax "evasion". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites