86Viking Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Just now, Noseforthenet said: He sounds like a whiner. Did this team just put their faith in a whiner?! if we look at it like this then we are definitely in on Drouin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 This seems to fall in line with the Clendening trade. Trading a younger prospect for one that is closer to making the NHL. I expect we'll be trading Granlund as a throw in soon. Just a horrible trade unless there's another left winger we're trying to acquire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SedinMadness Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 43 minutes ago, Apple Juice said: Not really.. Shinkaruk is actually pretty emotional about going to play for the Flames. Seems pretty happy. Although he probably wasn't pleased that the Flames passed on him in the draft, he gets to play for his hometown team that he grew up watching and loving. Probably more motivation for him to make it to the team next year. of course he is happy even though he didn't like the flames passing on him ... but now he may get more of an opportunity there... common bud would you be happy if you where passed up a lot of the time here.. so ya you would be emotional and happy going somewhere else... and by the way when have you ever seen him emotional or happy prior to the trade. Thats why i say it came out nowhere... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 1 minute ago, Warhippy said: Except of course the 1 important thing We NEVER EVER saw Shinkaruk in the NHL. Well yah, he wasn't good enough. Why would Benning not give him a chance if he was good enough? I mean Hutton was a Gillis pick and he's been here since day 1. IF benning brought up Shink he'd be exposed for his lack of strength and lack or 2 way game. Then you'd have to trade him for nothing. At least we got a serviceable player back. Kinda like the Etem trade, at least we got something back. Look even IF a few of the other team managements thought Shink was what many on CDC believe we'd be trading him for Drouin or Jones or Eberle or Yakupov right now. Like I said a few pages back in this thread, this is the highest trade value Shinkaruk would ever have had as a Canuck. We got a good player who will play for us in the NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 1 minute ago, Winter Soldier said: I'm not a Blue Jackets fan nor a member of their management so I can't tell you if they would consider a one for one in that scenario. If they did, I don't know if I'd be happy because I see a guy like KR and all I see is size. That was just an example. To think Shinkaruk wouldn't have garnered any interest beyond just Calgary offering Granlund is something I find hard to believe, and if so it would have made more sense to keep Shinkaruk IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Goblin Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 4 minutes ago, Warhippy said: My mistake, read the wrong line. But by those numbers they're comparable, one in a position, again; where our next call up is Higgins or Kenins vs having 8 centers already in our org. I Don't Like It Just because your have 5 tires doesn't mean you trade 2 for a stereo that pounds. +1, sorry ran out of reps to give. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honeydew Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Boeser made Shinkaruk tradable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter Soldier Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 1 minute ago, asian player said: Let's take a second to look at this trade objectively... I can guarantee 99% of posters whining here have NEVER seen Granlund play and I'm willing to bet most have never seen Shinkaruk either, other than his highlight clips. Granlund is a very solid, versatile number and has put up solid numbers in the AHL, and they are really not far off from the numbers Hunter 'future 40 goal scorer' Shinkaruk is putting up. But this is only if we look at this trade in isolation. It's foolish to assume this is our only deal. There are other trades being worked out. Every time Benning makes a trade, we see people running around, screaming. After a couple months, they slowly realize there was a purpose for the trade and they realize how smart the trade was. What has Benning done for people to doubt him so quickly? Seriously, I only had to read the first page before I had to resist myself from grabbing a knife to slit myself. Some of the things people are saying are just absolutely brainless... Btw... If I see another comparison of Granlund to Vey, I will do some bad things... Sorely out of pluses for today so here is a +1 for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JV77 Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Shink is going to look good with Monahan, Gaudreau and Bennett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 3 minutes ago, Warhippy said: My mistake, read the wrong line. But by those numbers they're comparable, one in a position, again; where our next call up is Higgins or Kenins vs having 8 centers already in our org. I Don't Like It Just because your have 5 tires doesn't mean you trade 2 for a stereo that pounds. The next callup is Gaunce, who has been playing much better than Shink has lately and plays a far more complete game. The only head scratching about this trade is taking offense out of Utica's lineup as they make a run for the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 5 minutes ago, soshified said: I dislike this trade. But some people are overreacting like crazy. "Fire JB" "Fire Linden" Really? My bad. I'm not surprised by this fan base anyways. Knee jerk reactions every single damn time. I guess it is the way it is because Shink wasn't given a chance (no call ups, except for that one game against Montreal) with the big club for an extended look. Not sure why they would trade for another centre, when we have a plethora of centres. Personally, I am disappointed about the trade, cause I believe that Shinkurak would have been a good player, and a good goal scorer. Now, we risk facing the guy who has the best offensive potential, to score against us every time we face the Flames. Benning couldn't have gotten more from another team, especially one that's IN OUR DIVISION? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Just now, DeNiro said: This seems to fall in line with the Clendening trade. Trading a younger prospect for one that is closer to making the NHL. I expect will be trading Granlund as a throw in soon. Just a horrible trade unless there's another left winger we're trying to acquire. no rumblings of us moving granlund in that deal, he is taking mccann spot vs ottawa i assume. I dont mind getting granlund I just dont think it was wise to move our top scorer to do it, without giving him a good shot in the nhl first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter Soldier Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Just now, Smashian Kassian said: That was just an example. To think Shinkaruk wouldn't have garnered any interest beyond just Calgary offering Granlund is something I find hard to believe, and if so it would have made more sense to keep Shinkaruk IMO That's on you for imagining value where it might not exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 7 minutes ago, Lulover88 said: wait till we sign STAMKOS We would break the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 17 minutes ago, GiveEmTheCan said: Yup. Gaunce is good as gone. If JB thought Shinkaruk for Granlund is fair value, I shudder to think what Gaunce will fetch. What a reckless, impatient, stupid man. Seconded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 2 minutes ago, stawns said: and what would Shink have done? He doesn't have the defensive acument to play bottom 6, and Granlund was a more prolific scorer at the same age, in the same league. I'm baffled that you and your ilk completely ignore the fact that Granlund is equal to, or better than Shinkaruk, offensively. Comparable actually AHL Stats Granlund Age 22: 107 gp 72 points Shinkaruk: Age 21: 119 gp 70 points. except we've a major depth of centers. our LW depth after Danny and Baertschi is...Kenins and Higgins, maybe Gaunce. Food for thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 2 minutes ago, DeNiro said: This seems to fall in line with the Clendening trade. Trading a younger prospect for one that is closer to making the NHL. I expect we'll be trading Granlund as a throw in soon. Just a horrible trade unless there's another left winger we're trying to acquire. as a poster with hockey iq, why do you think it's a horrible trade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclean70 Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 3 minutes ago, amplified0ne said: Our coach next year better be Darryl Sutter because we are going to icing a bunch of plumbers and Darryl has proven with an elite goalie, he can take you to the cup finals by icing a bunch of plumbers. Well he did have some speed what with Marion Gaborik and a mobile Drew Doughty plus Mr. game 7- Justin Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiffyPB Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 4 minutes ago, stawns said: and what would Shink have done? He doesn't have the defensive acument to play bottom 6, and Granlund was a more prolific scorer at the same age, in the same league. I'm baffled that you and your ilk completely ignore the fact that Granlund is equal to, or better than Shinkaruk, offensively. I'm baffled you think they are equivalent when that player has failed to cement an NHL spot since that season, has failed to show any of that offense in the NHL and is about to be waiver eligible imminently. Shinkaruk has been trending upward and fills a need in the future if Daniel and Henrik don't stick around. Granlund is another Gaunce type player (aka more of something we already have). They should not be considered equivalent trade-wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 3 minutes ago, asian player said: Let's take a second to look at this trade objectively... I can guarantee 99% of posters whining here have NEVER seen Granlund play and I'm willing to bet most have never seen Shinkaruk either, other than his highlight clips. Granlund is a very solid, versatile number and has put up solid numbers in the AHL, and they are really not far off from the numbers Hunter 'future 40 goal scorer' Shinkaruk is putting up. But this is only if we look at this trade in isolation. It's foolish to assume this is our only deal. There are other trades being worked out. Every time Benning makes a trade, we see people running around, screaming. After a couple months, they slowly realize there was a purpose for the trade and they realize how smart the trade was. What has Benning done for people to doubt him so quickly? Seriously, I only had to read the first page before I had to resist myself from grabbing a knife to slit myself. Some of the things people are saying are just absolutely brainless... Btw... If I see another comparison of Granlund to Vey, I will do some bad things... The AHL comparisons are there for a very valid reason. If they weren't people wouldn't be making them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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