Rocksterh8 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 With everything I've heard and read from all different sources about this trade debacle got me thinking, could it be that Dallas (Jim Nill) just plain and simply schooled JB? Here is what I think may have happened and why. What Jim Benning said in his interveiw just didn't add up. He said "Dallas and I had the framework for a deal in place, but they choose the Calgary Dman. Then I heard they wanted him all along, everyone saying Dallas was more interested in him over Hamhuis. If this is true, could Jim Nill have set up that trade with JB just to leverage to get the Calgary Dman? Did Jim Nill use Benning as a pawn to get the best deal for the Dman they wanted all along. If so... Jim Benning just got schooled. Anyhow to me this all adds up, food for thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 3 minutes ago, Rocksterh8 said: With everything I've heard and read from all different sources about this trade debacle got me thinking, could it be that Dallas (Jim Nill) just plain and simply schooled JB? Here is what I think may have happened and why. What Jim Benning said in his interveiw just didn't add up. He said "Dallas and I had the framework for a deal in place, but they choose the Calgary Dman. Then I heard they wanted him all along, everyone saying Dallas was more interested in him over Hamhuis. If this is true, could Jim Nill have set up that trade with JB just to leverage to get the Calgary Dman? Did Jim Nill use Benning as a pawn to get the best deal for the Dman they wanted all along. If so... Jim Benning just got schooled. Anyhow to me this all adds up, food for thought. If that's the case, then why did Nill clearly overpay for Russell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luongotv Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Well all I can say is that I hope Dallas doesn't get to the WCF... Can't even fathom Calgary winding up with a 1st for an overrated D-man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Jim Nill I'd wager has every bit of respect for Benning. If Dallas wanted to screw someone over...it wasn't JB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BI3KSA- Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Considering what Dallas ended up paying, I very much doubt this is the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 i'm sure it has been said elsewhere sounds to me like historical issue between the owners of these two teams raised its head again and there is no respect or consideration given between these 2 ownership groups Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocksterh8 Posted March 2, 2016 Author Share Posted March 2, 2016 26 minutes ago, Alflives said: If that's the case, then why did Nill clearly overpay for Russell? The analysts are saying it was a good deal for Russell, but no one knows what the original ask for him was, they usually start by asking for the moon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Sadly until ownership issues are resolved between Dallas & Vancouver we will rarely see trades between them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knucklehead91 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 I think the scenario that hasnt been mentioned or has been forgotten about is Stamkos is unsigned atm, TDL is over and many rumours about him wanting to be in a major hockey market along with he could be giving the big FU to Stevie Y for not letting him go to the olympics, fail to negotiate a deal and walk out of TBL for nothing in return. I think I prefer our situation much more, Hamhuis is coming back, Vrbata wasnt worth much at all, 24pts and a -32. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocksterh8 Posted March 2, 2016 Author Share Posted March 2, 2016 1 minute ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Sadly until ownership issues are resolved between Dallas & Vancouver we will rarely see trades between them. In the case with Benning, I hope they never deal with Dallas again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemmy Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Nill may have wanted Benning to take salary back or he knew he had no chance in hell of signing Hamhuis after this season. So many things we don't know, so much time for speculation, so much of nothing that Benning can do about it now. Move on my friend.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Goblin Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 I'm surprised no one sees it. Calgary used JB as leverage in order to maximize the return from Dallas. The asking price for Hamhuis was in the same ballpark as what Calgary got for Russell. But since Vancouver couldn't (wouldn't) pull the trigger on the deal, Dallas was left with the only option; Russell. Thus forcing Nill's hand to overpay for Russell; who was the only top 4 defenseman left on the trade market. Calgary and Vancouver were in communication during the negotiations regarding Russell and Hamhuis prior to the TDL. Calgary knew we weren't trading Hamhuis, but Dallas didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Templeton Peck Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 This is the wrong forum section for this, please pay attention to where you are posting. This section is for news with source links only. There are many places already discussing this particular topic, so I'm going to close rather than move this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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