TheGuardian_ Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 This was after the TDL, but I think it is still relevant in every aspect, including standings. The names have changed but not the expectations of fans or so far at least, what management is not doing, they are just saying it a different way this year. Four little words but what an understatement. Trade Deadline Day;"Nothing happened today", okay it's over and in the past but the ramifications and perceptions are all out of proportion to a simple "Nothing happened today". The public and league perception is that there were deals on the table, a list of players available and a perceived willingness of management to do a deal. For those players on the list, Vancouver isn't going to be home for long, for the league, those players don't have much value to the team. For players, NMC, NTC's don't have much value in Vancouver, if management wants a player to move and they have one, somehow it goes public and if a deal isn't done, the player is ostracized. League perception could now be, don't deal with the Canucks because they overvalue their players, will try to squeeze more out at the last minute, the first deal suddenly becomes not good enough, are run by committee so quick decisions take time. The next deals the Canucks do the rest of the GM's will smell blood in the water, the Canucks will feel the need to do something and therefore can be fleeced. Public perception is incompetence or interfering resulting in a loss of trust. Chicago approached the Nucks about Hamhuis with an offer, Canucks approach Hamhuis about the deal, it goes public, Hamhuis agrees to waive for cup contender in western conference, mentions Chicago. Dallas hears and makes an offer, Hamhuis publically says okay to both, two days later Chicago pulls the plug and makes their deals prior to deadline day, Dallas is left the only suitor, Canucks delay reach out to LA to pressure Dallas for a better deal, Dallas moves on to Russell, Canucks left having Hamhuis dangling in the air and now no deal, Canucks revisit Dallas offer, at 3:05 PM Dallas reports to TSN they are finished for the day, Canucks close up shop at 3 PM thinking there are no more deals, Dallas calls, no one answers, trade pulled from NHL central registry. Many reason's have been floated about the "why" deals didn't happen, but by the way Benning's buddies, in the media, are circling the wagons there might be some truth other than stated. Blame ownership, blame the NTC, blame the player, blame a poor market, blame the other team, blame everyone and anyone, BUT DON'T BLAME MANGEMENT. Plausible deniability, Dallas media reported Jim Nill said that the Nucks didn't answer the phone after 3pm. If they didn't answer the phone, then they didn't know, hence to the best of their knowledge, there was no deal. This screams of inexperience and ....... The concept that is was better to do nothing than to get something makes no sense. The Canucks could have saved money, not that is the prime reason and not to say they would not have retained some but, why not save 1.2 mil and get a 4 or 5th round draft pick? The money saved alone makes the deal worth any pick, especially if the player re-signs. The idea the deal isn't done for such a low pick so the player isn't or doesn't feel disrespected doesn't wash either, do you think Dallas wants a player playing that feels his new club didn't value him? Especially if they think they might be able to sign him themselves, even if it is remote? Does the league really believe the Canucks are willing to spend an extra 1.2 mil, not get a draft pick back all the while having the player re-sign at the end of the season and have the public fallout just to "look good"? The ramifications of "Nothing happened today" might end up being as big for the team as "Houston, We have a problem" was for NASA, scrambling to do anything necessary to salvage the mission and turn a catastrophic failure into some kind of victory. Only this team doesn't have a thousand rocket scientists to solve the problem. The team is using all their influence to turn public perceptions that it wasn't managements fault, it was _________ fill in the blank. The loss of trust by the public will hurt future sales of the brand, the Nuck management looks less than competent to the rest of the country (embarrassing for fans) and league. There are 29 vultures circling the team now, and they all know more than we the fans do. This day will turn into a magnifying glass focused on management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babych Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 So "Nothing happened today" is four words? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Barzal Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 I'm content to hibernate through the coming years until the Sedin's retire. That's when we'll see an impressionable turnover in talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quoted Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 2 minutes ago, babych said: So "Nothing happened today" is four words? "No thing happened today"?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJDDawg Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Well that was 5 seconds I'll never get back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babych Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 1 minute ago, Quoted said: "No thing happened today"?? lol - clearly no thing happened in math class for this guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Positive Canuck Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 The problem is fantasy gm EA Sports idiots that think other teams want our garbage. Vrbata ? Burrows ? Higgins ? Prust ? ZERO value. As far as Hammer goes, his last 2 years have been awful, he was badly injured for 2 months killing his showcase and he publicly stated he didn't want to leave Vancouver. but yes, blame Benning while ignoring Demko,Boeser,Virtanen etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xereau Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 I had an unbelievably good sub sandwich today. True story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SvenBae Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Ah, another thread complaining about management. That's new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quoted Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 3 minutes ago, MJDDawg said: Well that was 5 seconds I'll never get back. Looking for the 4th word is kind of fun though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quoted Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 2 minutes ago, xereau said: I had an unbelievably good sub sandwich today. True story. Subway, Quiznos, ?? Inquiring minds want details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THERETOOL Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 its already hurt an already hurting brand .. people literally stopped caring this year .. if this idiot of an owner and its management had shown the slightest amount of respect to its fans and been a little more honest , people would have followed and supported the rebuild .. instead they tried to feed us garbage about us being a playoff contender .. unfortunately for them .. this wasn't our 1st rodeo and we knew what they refused to say publicly .. the team wasn't good enough the sad part is , we will be the ones who bare the cost of supporting an average team for the next 10 years and being over charged for it at the same time .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chon derry Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 1 minute ago, Quoted said: Subway, Quiznos, ?? Inquiring minds want details. were there layoffs there too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babych Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 So the OP blogs this EXACT post 3 hours ago and no one responds to it. Clearly, a thread needed to be made... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THERETOOL Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 1 minute ago, babych said: So the OP blogs this EXACT post 8 hours ago and no one responds to it. Clearly, a thread needed to be made... feels good to vent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuardian_ Posted March 3, 2016 Author Share Posted March 3, 2016 9 minutes ago, babych said: So "Nothing happened today" is four words? 1. = We 2. = have 3. = a 4. = problem The context is those four words are as much an understatement as "Nothing happened today" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quoted Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 3 minutes ago, Lulover88 said: its already hurt an already hurting brand .. people literally stopped caring this year .. if this idiot of an owner and its management had shown the slightest amount of respect to its fans and been a little more honest , people would have followed and supported the rebuild .. instead they tried to feed us garbage about us being a playoff contender .. unfortunately for them .. this wasn't our 1st rodeo and we knew what they refused to say publicly .. the team wasn't good enough the sad part is , we will be the ones who bare the cost of supporting an average team for the next 10 years and being over charged for it at the same time .. To be fair, early in the season, people here were still talking about the resurgence of the Sedins and that the playoffs were a possibility too. Injuries, luck, and reality gradually took over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babych Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Just now, Lulover88 said: feels good to vent 14 minutes ago, TheGuardian_ said: Four little words but what an understatement. Now we're doing it right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THERETOOL Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 2 minutes ago, TheGuardian_ said: 1. = We 2. = have 3. = a 4. = problem The context is those four words are as much an understatement as "Nothing happened today" i just laughed my ass off ... thank you !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quoted Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 4 minutes ago, TheGuardian_ said: 1. = We 2. = have 3. = a 4. = problem The context is those four words are as much an understatement as "Nothing happened today" "Houston, we have a problem" is 5. "Nothing Happened today: is 3. Hence the confusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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