Bandwagon38 Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 I love the idea of resigning Hamhuis for the next 2-3 years but doing so creates a log jam in our defensive ranks. Doing so would make no room for our prospects (hopefully a really good future top 3 drafted this year) to crack our line up without several injuries. What if our team committed to Hamhuis and then started to seek out a trade for Edler? I have always been a big fan of his but he has always had us dreaming about that next Norris level that seems to elude him. I think (not sure about his NTC status) he could fetch a great return to help us round out our top 6. I could see us getting an Eberle type forward for him. Or better yet, package him and make a push for Drouin in the off season. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Buzzsaw* Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 What log jam? Where are all the great new defensemen coming from? Where is a #1 defenseman coming up in free agency? Where are the #1 D draft pics in our prospects? Expecting some kid to come out of junior and be a #1 D is dreamland. We need Edler and Hamhuis for another year to allow the new guys to get the experience to play big minutes. Hutton is not typical at all... and he may have a sophomore slump... I love the kid, but 2nd year in the league problems are not unheard of. People do not put two and two together... we traded Bieksa, and suddenly our defense sucks.... but they don't put two and two together. Yeah Bieksa made mistakes, but overall he was a plus to the back end, and you can't get rid of a vet and expect there to be no effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Juice Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Edler made it very clear that he's not going anywhere. He's got a full NTC and stated publicly to the media that he signed a long term deal not to be traded a year after the extension kicked in so he will most definitely never leave until he wants to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandwagon38 Posted March 4, 2016 Author Share Posted March 4, 2016 We are in a rebuild. Keeping a good, veteran defense for the next 3-5 years is great but we HAVE to have a bonified top line before the Sedins begin to fade. Do we have a NHL 1st line Center? Wingers? Or do we have really good 2nd liners with the hope of them being 1st liners. The Sedins have to be our second line in two seasons or we are hooped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksSayEh Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Best case scenario, let Hamhuis walk, and trade Edler. I don't see a good defenseman, nor someone willing to give what it takes to go back to the finals between the two. Just a couple nice guys that wan't to stay settled down in Vancouver. Sorry, this is hockey, retire wherever you want at a handsome age in your mid-late 30's, but until then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 we are keeping edler no matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boddy604 Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 We need Edler a lot more than Hamhuis. A lot more. I'll agree Edler isn't a #1 but he never really was. With Hutton stepping up, Canucks can finally cut Edler's minutes a bit. Play him in the offensive end more where hes more suited for. Hamhuis is a good player but there's also Tryamkin and Pedan to consider. Do we need to lose those guys to keep Hamhuis till he's 35+? Hamhuis is past his best before date, he's not getting better. Go with the young guys who will still improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Jay 22 Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 34 minutes ago, Bandwagon38 said: I love the idea of resigning Hamhuis for the next 2-3 years but doing so creates a log jam in our defensive ranks. Doing so would make no room for our prospects (hopefully a really good future top 3 drafted this year) to crack our line up without several injuries. What if our team committed to Hamhuis and then started to seek out a trade for Edler? I have always been a big fan of his but he has always had us dreaming about that next Norris level that seems to elude him. I think (not sure about his NTC status) he could fetch a great return to help us round out our top 6. I could see us getting an Eberle type forward for him. Or better yet, package him and make a push for Drouin in the off season. Thoughts? What log jam? After Hutton, Edler, Tanev, and Hammer, the skill level (and fundamental level for that matter) droooooooooops tremendously. Hamhuis, Bart, and Weber are all free agents. Even if you replace them with unready kids like Subban or Tryamkin, that's still not going to create a log jam as I would like to think that Hamhuis takes short term priority over them. We aren't in a Top 3 draft position right now either, so I doubt banking on that strategy is the wisest of moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandwagon38 Posted March 4, 2016 Author Share Posted March 4, 2016 Right now the top three d-men in the draft are sitting at 6,7,10. With our remaining schedule I am sure that we will be right in there. They are scouted as being future top defenseman in the NHL. Top 3 guys anyway. Obviously not right away. But our future isn't next year it is 2-4 years. Trading a good defensive asset that will begin diminishing soon for a top young forward will balance our team for the future. I am just not sure if Bo/McCann Virtanen Boeser are future top liners. They should be stud 2nds but I am not sure about the jump to #1. I hope they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandwagon38 Posted March 4, 2016 Author Share Posted March 4, 2016 To clarify log jam. If we resign Hamhuis, Sbiza is our 5th guy leaving one spot open for a Left side. That is not much room for playing time between Biega, Subban etc. Not to mention no spots for right side guys like Pedan. I am simply looking for a way that we dont let the asset, Hamhuis, walk away this summer while also trying to better our team through a trade. Not to mention keeping some healthy cap space available if a desired UFA comes available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRypien37 Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 1 hour ago, Apple Juice said: Edler made it very clear that he's not going anywhere. He's got a full NTC and stated publicly to the media that he signed a long term deal not to be traded a year after the extension kicked in so he will most definitely never leave until he wants to. Waive him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 35 minutes ago, Bandwagon38 said: To clarify log jam. If we resign Hamhuis, Sbiza is our 5th guy leaving one spot open for a Left side. That is not much room for playing time between Biega, Subban etc. Not to mention no spots for right side guys like Pedan. I am simply looking for a way that we dont let the asset, Hamhuis, walk away this summer while also trying to better our team through a trade. Not to mention keeping some healthy cap space available if a desired UFA comes available. Sign Hamhuis to a one year deal without an ntc and trade him next deadline. I don't see us moving Edler as he's the closest thing to a #1 d-man we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aircool Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Well I mean, I was thinking the same thing as the OP a few days ago.. our LHD at the NHL level is Hamhuis, Edler, Hutton, Sbisa. If we are planning to rebuild, I don't really see a need for Edler. If we don't re-sign Hamhuis its just wasting the fact we didn't trade him, we aren't trading Hutton and we just signed Sbisa to an extension, it would look pretty bad if we traded him now. So Edler just seems like the odd man out. I'm not entirely sure what Edler is worth, probably something like a 10-15 pick at the draft maybe? That could be a good chance to draft a D prospect. It seems like its low-value though, maybe that pick and a prospect. We don't really need a Top-6 forward like the OP suggests, it just doesn't fit in with our timeline... Just not sure if we get fair value only getting futures either though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MayRayDown Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 1 hour ago, Baggins said: Sign Hamhuis to a one year deal without an ntc and trade him next deadline. I don't see us moving Edler as he's the closest thing to a #1 d-man we have. Doubt a 33 year old who's had injury riddled seasons wants to bank on 1 year deals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonshinefe Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Our D-core is pretty bad, we should keep both Edler and Hamhuis at this point. Give Hammer a 3-4 year deal weighted toward the first couple years in higher payment. Finding quality D is ultra hard right now and our D-core is thin as hell. We gave away Corrado for nothing who was one of our better D prospects. We need a couple veterans until we get better D-prospects / development. Hutton was a great find. Tanev is great for us. But really, there are 3-4 slots where we could improve on D easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonshinefe Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 10 minutes ago, MayRayDown said: Doubt a 33 year old who's had injury riddled seasons wants to bank on 1 year deals He'll be looking for a 3-5 year commitment or management will have to let him go while gaining absolutely nothing in return. I think they have to make a deal at this point to gain some good will back. Good comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 no thanks hamhuis should retire he sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 24 minutes ago, MayRayDown said: Doubt a 33 year old who's had injury riddled seasons wants to bank on 1 year deals That's exactly why I would only be offering him a one year deal at this point. I really don't have a problem with him walking away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MayRayDown Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 4 minutes ago, Baggins said: That's exactly why I would only be offering him a one year deal at this point. I really don't have a problem with him walking away. I wouldn't mind a 2 year deal. Retire at the age of 35 and can help teach the kids, has been a good leader so far. I'd probably target a younger D with the potential of reaching Edler's potential rather than an Eberle type. Think we need to rebuild our defense before our offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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