VIC_CITY Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 OK, I feel like a bit of a dick making this thread...but I found myself wondering this. I can't ever remember a time where DD has fought and I thought atta boy, you got the best of him. You have to give him credit, he is always a willing combatant and is usually outweighed by most of his opponents. Plus with everything we are learning about head trauma and it's affect on the brain, I wouldn't want his job. So I don't want to make this a hate thread because he's doing what most guys wouldn't. But I still have to ask the question...does anyone remember him decisively winning a fight? I don't mean KOing his opponent, but just having the clear advantage. Personally, I can't think of a time. Here in Vancouver, we've been treated to a few good ones over the years. Odjick, Brashear, Rypien, Bieksa to name a few. Those guys could really chuck em. I'm sure some guys on here can add some names to that list, especially from the older days as I don't know a ton about the Canucks pre-1994. Well, other than what the back of my old hockey cards told me! So what do we make of Dorsett? He can skate, no question about that. I'm pretty sure he holds the NHL record for amount of times ALMOST beating out an icing in one season. He currently leads the league in penalty minutes. Is that because he's basically the last of a dying bread? You'd have to think there's plenty of tougher guys out there that would rack up more penalty minutes. To conclude, I appreciate what Dorsett brings to this team. Not many other players are willing to play the way he does and it's an essential component to our team if we ever plan on competing against Anaheim and LA any time soon. But I can't help but think that he's miscast in his role...because let's face it, he's not very good at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 2 minutes ago, VIC_CITY said: OK, I feel like a bit of a dick making this thread...but I found myself wondering this. I can't ever remember a time where DD has fought and I thought atta boy, you got the best of him. You have to give him credit, he is always a willing combatant and is usually outweighed by most of his opponents. Plus with everything we are learning about head trauma and it's affect on the brain, I wouldn't want his job. So I don't want to make this a hate thread because he's doing what most guys wouldn't. But I still have to ask the question...does anyone remember him decisively winning a fight? I don't mean KOing his opponent, but just having the clear advantage. Personally, I can't think of a time. Here in Vancouver, we've been treated to a few good ones over the years. Odjick, Brashear, Rypien, Bieksa to name a few. Those guys could really chuck em. I'm sure some guys on here can add some names to that list, especially from the older days as I don't know a ton about the Canucks pre-1994. Well, other than what the back of my old hockey cards told me! So what do we make of Dorsett? He can skate, no question about that. I'm pretty sure he holds the NHL record for amount of times ALMOST beating out an icing in one season. He currently leads the league in penalty minutes. Is that because he's basically the last of a dying bread? You'd have to think there's plenty of tougher guys out there that would rack up more penalty minutes. To conclude, I appreciate what Dorsett brings to this team. Not many other players are willing to play the way he does and it's an essential component to our team if we ever planning on competing against Anaheim and LA any time soon. But I can't help but think that he's miscast in his role...because let's face it, he's not very good at it. I can. Last night against SJ Dorsett clearly won his fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Fig Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 In Medicine Hat. He beat Garet Hunt. Or Garet Hunt beat him. Can't remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabinessence Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 This site isn't the be all and end all of hockey fights, but it is quite a useful resource when documenting fights. I like Dorseett because he seems to play the game with passion and fight when enraged or to spark the team. His bouts seeem to be less premeditated than a certain player who was here recently. http://dropyourgloves.com/Fights/FightCard.aspx?Player=13851 Total 212 Fights (.229 per Game)Career 50-54-40 / Win 49% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIC_CITY Posted March 4, 2016 Author Share Posted March 4, 2016 6 minutes ago, Alflives said: I can. Last night against SJ Dorsett clearly won his fight. Did he though? I'd call it a draw like most of his fights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift-4 Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 7 minutes ago, Alflives said: I can. Last night against SJ Dorsett clearly won his fight. yup, when the other guy goes to the dressing room instead of the penalty box it is a pretty good sign I also give him a win most times just for the fact he is going up against bigger guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jägermeister Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 I like Dorsett. Yeah he's not the kind of guy who clobbers the guys he fights, but he's willing to stand up for his teammates and can hold his own against some guys who have 20+ lbs. on him, and most importantly HE CAN ACTUALLY PLAY HOCKEY. I think he's a little overpaid, but he's exactly what I want out of a 4th liner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Dorsie is one of the few that sticks up for his team mates if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOgRook Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 4 minutes ago, cabinessence said: This site isn't the be all and end all of hockey fights, but it is quite a useful resource when documenting fights. I like Dorseett because he seems to play the game with passion and fight when enraged or to spark the team. His bouts seeem to be less premeditated than a certain player who was here recently. http://dropyourgloves.com/Fights/FightCard.aspx?Player=13851 Total 212 Fights (.229 per Game)Career 50-54-40 / Win 49% Something for all to keep in mind as well is how often Dorse gives up ALOT of size. Last night was the first fight in his own weight division in some time and that one punch sent the kid off for stitches. He's a beaut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladeen Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Man if he could just finish the chances he gets, no one would even be talking about his fights cause he'd have about 20 goals and everyone would be saying he is a bargain for his salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xereau Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 He definitely won his bloated contract. It was a 1 punch knockout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 His value isn't really in winning fights (realize the OP touched on this). It's in bringing team toughness, 'pushback', skating hard, hitting, getting in on the forecheck - being a guy whose motor is always red-lining. And by all impressions, he seems like a pretty damn cool guy - low key, deadpan - solid character. I think JB made a great decision in bringing him in. I don't think he's a dying breed - I think he's the new breed of toughness in the NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puckster Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 I very much appreciate what DD brings. The fact that he is a middleweight and willing to go with most anyone..... says a lot. I respect a guy that is willing to have his team mates back....add the fact that he is fast and can actually play.... I will forgive the odd dumb penalty, when his opponent does not rise to the bait. Win or lose..... meh, lets come out swinging..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ice orca Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 His face has won the majority of fights since he has been a Canuck...2.5 mill plug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIC_CITY Posted March 4, 2016 Author Share Posted March 4, 2016 14 minutes ago, Shift-4 said: yup, when the other guy goes to the dressing room instead of the penalty box it is a pretty good sign I also give him a win most times just for the fact he is going up against bigger guys When a guy goes to the dressing room after a fight, it's usually because of one the following a - equipment/skate issue b - they hurt their hand punching their opponent c - they pulled a muscle while grappling their opponent d - they got rocked and may be concussed a, b or c have no impact on whether the fight itself was won or lost. As for your 2nd point, Rick Rypien fought guys way bigger than him and actually won. He didn't get the decision because he was smaller....he won by repeatedly punching his opponent in face. EDIT: if it's true that the SJ player was sent off for stitches, then I will concede to DD winning the fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeaves Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 2 minutes ago, VIC_CITY said: When a guy goes to the dressing room after a fight, it's usually because of one the following a - equipment/skate issue b - they hurt their hand punching their opponent c - they pulled a muscle while grappling their opponent d - they got rocked and may be concussed a, b or c have no impact on whether the fight itself was won or lost. As for your 2nd point, Rick Rypien fought guys way bigger than him and actually won. He didn't get the decision because he was smaller....he won by repeatedly punching his opponent in face. Now you should feel like a dick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexandre Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 6 minutes ago, xereau said: He definitely won his bloated contract. It was a 1 punch knockout. Ha ha, good one. What about them intangables though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowardrobertford Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 He doesn't necessarily need to win, he just have to show he won't get pushed around. He still has to protect himself though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimberWolf Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 He's hurt plenty of knuckles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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