dura_mater Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 (image source: Mackcanuck in "Is playoffs out of the question") If all things go as planned this draft, which they probably won't, either Calgary or Edmonton should end up with a top 3 pick. Calgary needs goaltending desperately, Edmonton to a smaller extent, and Edmonton needs an upgrade on D. Are either of these two trade scenarios realistic? Scenario 1 To Calgary Jacob Markstrom To Vancouver Calgary's 2nd/3rd overall Scenario 2 To Edmonton Alex Edler Vancouver's 3rd To Vancouver Edmonton's 2nd/3rd overall Should we really get lucky and land a top 3 ourselves, and follow through with either above trade that could land us 2 top 3 picks. Imagine having both Laine and Puljujarvi or a combination of Matthews and one of the Finns. I'm dreaming a bit but are either of these 2 trade scenarios realistic? What would have to be added to make them more realistic? Vancouver's 2nd? Could we survive with Miller (assuming we could re-sign him, until Demko is ready)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aircool Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 ha ha ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dral Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 We're more likely to get the 1st over all pick then those trades happening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dral Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Remember, Schieds got us the 10th pick and he had done a lot more then Markstrom has Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Bob.Loblaw Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Oh, I thought we were getting a 2nd or 3rd rounder for Markstrom. You meant 2nd or 3rd overall. Ha. Ha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devon Jade Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 We can't just have one proven goalie. Demko is still a couple of years away. The team plays worse in front of Miller, and Markstrom has a better record. I could see Edler + pick fetching us a 10-20th pick, but not a top 5 pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fateless Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Markstrom is probably worth a late first or early second - at best. The guy has had limited success at the NHL level and is only starting to bloom now (relatively late). Edler is likely worth a mid to late first rounder. You gotta remember that this isn't the trade deadline where values are high. You're discussing draft picks AT THE DRAFT. Draft picks come at a premium on draft day because you actually end up with a player in your system at the end of the day. Its very unrealistic to think that any team picking in the top 5 is going to give up their pick unless there is a huge overpayment. Vancouver would have to give up Edler and our 1st (in the 5th-8th range) to move up to the 2nd/3rd overall. That's simply how it works on draft day when prices are through the roof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 "Russian Tank never breaks." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Mac Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Try Markstrom, 2016 1st, 2017 1st, 2017 2nd. For Laine I'd do it, even add if necessary. Edler wont waive unless you saw him on the streets of Stockholm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 So you're saying Markstrom has the same value and Edler and a 3rd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Markstrom is well on his way to becoming the number one here. No more giving excellent goalies away. This isn't Jim's Bargain Goalie Emporium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustABandwagoner Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Kinda funny your proposing Markstrom for a 3rd overall pick. Even NHL 16 on easy trade mode wont accept that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwags Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 I wouldn't trade Markstrom for anything. He's our number 1 starting next year until Demko is ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NZ_Canuck Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 You would definitely need to give our 1st round pick in any of these trades. Simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 On 08/03/2016 at 10:51 AM, dura_mater said: Scenario 1 To Calgary Jacob Markstrom To Vancouver Calgary's 2nd/3rd overall Calgary wouldn't trade the 2nd overall for Carey Price, never mind Jacob Markstrom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toews Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 17 hours ago, Qwags said: I wouldn't trade Markstrom for anything. He's our number 1 starting next year until Demko is ready. Markstrom isn't Carey Price. Saying you would not trade him for anything in a thread proposing him being traded for the 3rd overall tells me you grossly overvalue his presence on this roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ojibwa72 Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 1 hour ago, Toews said: Markstrom isn't Carey Price. Saying you would not trade him for anything in a thread proposing him being traded for the 3rd overall tells me you grossly overvalue his presence on this roster. I agree fully but to commit to a rebuild and get Demko ready you would be further ahead to shop Miller as you might get a better return. As far as Edler I agree he should go but he will not waive so it is moot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwags Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 3 hours ago, Toews said: Markstrom isn't Carey Price. Saying you would not trade him for anything in a thread proposing him being traded for the 3rd overall tells me you grossly overvalue his presence on this roster. Marks from isn't Price, but when Miller is gone, Markstrom will have to take his place until Demko is ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble 6 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 I really want Laine, and would be willing to give up quite a bit to get him: To CGY/EDM/TOR/CBJ: 1st 2016 (6th overall) McCann 2nd 2016 1st 2017 Brisebois To VAN: 2nd Overall Pick (Laine) We loose a pretty good prospect in McCann, but it would be worth it for someone like Laine. It won't be impossible to find a #2 centre down the line, and we clear up our short term centre depth. Next year our lineup would look a lot more balanced: Sedin - Sedin - Sutter Baertschi - Horvat - Laine Virtanen - Granlund - Hansen Dorsett - Vey - Etem Burrows Down the line, we still have a very good forward core: Laine - Horvat - Virtanen Baertschi - ******* - Boeser Gaunce - Granlund - Etem ******* - Cassels - ******* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 On 08/03/2016 at 0:13 PM, PhillipBlunt said: Markstrom is well on his way to becoming the number one here. No more giving excellent goalies away. This isn't Jim's Bargain Goalie Emporium. Lol. The ops proposal is for the 2nd/3rd overall pick and you call that giving him away? Wow... To be clear there isn't a chance in hell Calgary would accept that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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