Lui's Knob Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Let's take a look at the upcoming moves and offeason for the team. They will have at least 10 million (maybe more?) in cap space They have 2-3 college FA's of interest (signed Stetcher and Garteig) There's a couple RFA's of interest (chances of landing one are slim; most teams match almost 100%) They'll be picking anywhere between 4-11th (lower the better but they are not catching EDM/CAL/TOR) UPDATED end of May KHL Karki - big body for bottom 6 Golyshev - touted as the next Panarin (lite)?; very small but stubby forward College UFA Mark Jankowski - it's a Weisbrod pick and he hasn't signed with the Flames yet; if he becomes a UFA, watch for them to sign (Jankowski + Granlund for Shinkaruk doesn't sound so bad) Casey Nelson - a young D prospect who can play in Utica (boosting the prospect pool) Troy Stetcher - *SIGNED!!* Brandon Tanev - brothers connection; could be a late bloomer much like his bro (3rd line checker/PK) - *Winnipeg Jet Drake Caggiula - smallish size forward but worth a gamble if he plays hard on the puck and pots some goals- *Edmonton Oiler DRAFT Chychrun - he may fall a couple spots due to shoulder surgery/apparent errant plays with the puck Bean - if this team is consistent, picking someone off the board (or higher than they should) look for Bean if they hit 6-10th spot Sergachev - if Chychrun is gone, look for them to grab Sergachev Dubois/Tkachuk/Juolevi - *Canucks pick 5th and these 3 are the targeted trio NHL UFA Hamhuis - it'll have to be for another short term home town discount (and to make up for a bad trade deadline for JB) -*still in discussions Harrison - played well with Carolina (and we all know they like ex Hurricanes); good for bottom D pairing Goligoski - replacement for Hamhuis if he doesn't sign Stamkos - yeah if he reaches UFA status, I think they will throw him money but he goes to TB or Toronto Lucic - Benning connection but only comes here if LA cannot make him fit under the cap (look for Lombardi to finda way) Erickson - will be runner up in Lucic sweepstakes Ramo - if for whatever reason Miller is traded, look for again the CGY connection (Ramo knows his role as 1B or backup) Helm - he'd be a very serviceable 4th liner (if they feel Gaunce is not ready) Jo. Benn - depth defensemen Perron -grittier sniper replacement for Vrbata (low term high dollar?) Falk - PP QB (2nd line) and potential mid pairing Raanta - see Ramo above (or he else signs with the Flames) Scievour - depth winger RFA Krug - Benning connection but only if Krug doesn't want to stay in Boston Barrie - see above (only if he doesnt want to stay in Colorado) Gudbranson - young top 4 D but unlikely Tallon lets him walk - *TRADED TO VAN!! Schwartz - this player is interesting (early 20's, top 6, big body, skilled) Hoffman - he's gonna get paid, but will it be in Ottawa? Lindhholm/Vatanen - Anaheim has 2 very stud/skilled dmen and tight against the cap (does Benning make an offer?) Kucherov/Nesterov - if Stamkos gets rich and stays in TB, will either of these be ripe for the picking? TRADE BAIT Hamhuis - dealt for a low pick (to a team who wants to have a chance at signing him) Edler - if Tryamkin does well, could see Edler dealt for more playing time to Hutton/Tryamkin and getting a top 4 dman in return (replace Hamhuis) Hansen - he's been prickly the past couple seasons and playing on the top line, has potential to be showcased/traded Young prospect - we all know Benning has no problems dealing a young prospect. Could see 1 or 2 of Gaunce/Subban/Cassels/Cederholm/McCann traded - McCann traded! BUY OUTS Miller - I don't see this happening but we'll put it out there and hope it happens Higgins - almost guaranteed Burrows - if they keep Hansen, could see Burrows moved to make room for youth SURPRISE There's always something that stuns Canuck Nation, so let's say: Travis Green - is either plucked by another team (or replaces Gulutzan as Asst Coach) and someone from the upper management leaves for another job or is fired Skate crest - becomes a more used 3rd/alternate jersey next year Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 lol i'm not a big fan of miller but buyout? this forum is full of people with brain damage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gstank29 Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 I'm going to say Benning either trade for or offersheets a RFA defenseman, to many teams that are going to be caught because of the stagnant cap. Here is the RFA compensation chart AVERAGE ANNUAL VALUE COMPENSATION Less than $1,205,377 Nothing $1,205,377-to-$1,826,328 Third-round pick $1,826,328-to-$3,652,659 Second-round pick $3,652,659-to-$5,478,986 First and third-round picks $5,478,986-to-$7,305,316 First, second and third-round picks $7,305,316-to-$9,131,645 Two firsts, a second and third-round picks $9,131,645 or greater Four first-round picks Colorado 52 million committed next year for 7 forwards and 6 defenseman Big names that they need to resign Tyson Barrie 2.4 million Nathan Mackinnon 925k Mikail Grigorenki 675k Brad Stuart is on IR 3.6 million Florida 47 million committed next year for 10 forwards and 5 defenseman Big names that they need to resign Gudbranson 2.5 million Jagr 3.5 million Winnipeg 51.6 million commited next year for 11 forwards 5 defenseman. They have a internal cap and 4.6 million on IR right now but Clitsome so a UFA next year Big names that they need to resign Trouba 894k Anaheim 52.7 million committed with only 8 forwards and 5 defenseman Big names they need to resign Perron 3.8 million McGinn 2.95 million Richard Rakell 894k Hampus Lindholm 894k Sami Vatanen 1.262 million Fredrick Andersen 1.15million Pirri 925k As you can tell they best chance of offersheeting a defenseman is Anahiem. I think it's a for gone conclusion that Vatanen will not be a Duck next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lui's Knob Posted March 11, 2016 Author Share Posted March 11, 2016 2 hours ago, Gstank29 said: I'm going to say Benning either trade for or offersheets a RFA defenseman, to many teams that are going to be caught because of the stagnant cap. Here is the RFA compensation chart AVERAGE ANNUAL VALUE COMPENSATION Less than $1,205,377 Nothing $1,205,377-to-$1,826,328 Third-round pick $1,826,328-to-$3,652,659 Second-round pick $3,652,659-to-$5,478,986 First and third-round picks $5,478,986-to-$7,305,316 First, second and third-round picks $7,305,316-to-$9,131,645 Two firsts, a second and third-round picks $9,131,645 or greater Four first-round picks Colorado 52 million committed next year for 7 forwards and 6 defenseman Big names that they need to resign Tyson Barrie 2.4 million Nathan Mackinnon 925k Mikail Grigorenki 675k Brad Stuart is on IR 3.6 million Florida 47 million committed next year for 10 forwards and 5 defenseman Big names that they need to resign Gudbranson 2.5 million Jagr 3.5 million Winnipeg 51.6 million commited next year for 11 forwards 5 defenseman. They have a internal cap and 4.6 million on IR right now but Clitsome so a UFA next year Big names that they need to resign Trouba 894k Anaheim 52.7 million committed with only 8 forwards and 5 defenseman Big names they need to resign Perron 3.8 million McGinn 2.95 million Richard Rakell 894k Hampus Lindholm 894k Sami Vatanen 1.262 million Fredrick Andersen 1.15million Pirri 925k As you can tell they best chance of offersheeting a defenseman is Anahiem. I think it's a for gone conclusion that Vatanen will not be a Duck next year. I agree ducks d man will either be shopped or lost as rfa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Ugh, I keep thinking Vatanen is in his late twenties (28-29). He's still friggen 24 (turnin 25) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble 6 Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Resign: Baertschi: 2-years, 2 million per Etem: 1-year, 1 million Granlund: 2-years, 1.25 million per Pedan: 1-year, 900,000 Grenier: 1-year, 900,000 Zalewski: 1-year, 900,000 Sign: Demers/Russell: 4-years, 4.5 million per Draft: Trade: McCann + 1st 2016 + 1st 2017 + Brisebois + 3rd 2017 + 4th 2016 for 2nd Overall Pick (Laine) 2016-16 Lineup: Sedin - Sedin - Hansen Baertschi - Horvat - Laine Gaunce - Sutter - Dorsett Etem - Granlund - Virtanen Burrows Edler - Tanev Hutton - Demers/Russell Sbisa - Larsen Tryamkin, Biega, Pedan Miller Markstrom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 9 minutes ago, Horvat is a Boss said: Resign: Baertschi: 2-years, 2 million per Etem: 1-year, 1 million Granlund: 2-years, 1.25 million per Pedan: 1-year, 900,000 Grenier: 1-year, 900,000 Zalewski: 1-year, 900,000 Sign: Demers/Russell: 4-years, 4.5 million per Draft: Trade: McCann + 1st 2016 + 1st 2017 + Brisebois + 3rd 2017 + 4th 2016 for 2nd Overall Pick (Laine) 2016-16 Lineup: Sedin - Sedin - Hansen Baertschi - Horvat - Laine Gaunce - Sutter - Dorsett Etem - Granlund - Virtanen Burrows Edler - Tanev Hutton - Demers/Russell Sbisa - Larsen Tryamkin, Biega, Pedan Miller Markstrom From your trade proposal to get Laine, you must think he's a generational talent. How would you feel if we win the draft lotto, trade down to two, swapping picks with Arizona, and getting OEL along with the pick. Then we trade OEL to the Coilers for their pick - which is third. We end up with picks two and three. We draft Laine and Pulilarvi. This is almost exactly what Burke did in '99 to get the Sedin Twins, and that gave us our best team and run ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 1 minute ago, The 5th Line said: Our best run ever that didn't win anything because we had no defence? Arizona ain't giving away OEL just to move up one spot for Matthews.. OEL could easily be more valuable then Matthews ever will be They might? The kid is a local boy, which would make him the face of their franchise - until they move to Quebec City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Jane Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 As of right now we will draft around 8th Overall..Jake Bean? Sedin Sedin Sutter Sven Horvat Virtanen Burrows Mccann Hansen Etem Granlund Dorsett Edler Tanev Hutton Hamhuis Sbisa Tyramkin Pedan Biega Miller Markstrom Sign Hamhuis 2 year deal Bean in WHL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toews Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 7 hours ago, Alflives said: They might? The kid is a local boy, which would make him the face of their franchise - until they move to Quebec City. Pretty sure Arizona isn't so keen on implementing the Edmonton model by trading a #1 defenseman on an already weak D core. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble 6 Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 11 hours ago, Alflives said: From your trade proposal to get Laine, you must think he's a generational talent. How would you feel if we win the draft lotto, trade down to two, swapping picks with Arizona, and getting OEL along with the pick. Then we trade OEL to the Coilers for their pick - which is third. We end up with picks two and three. We draft Laine and Pulilarvi. This is almost exactly what Burke did in '99 to get the Sedin Twins, and that gave us our best team and run ever. I do think Laine is worth all that, and I would be willing to even give up a little more. But let's not get too ahead of ourselves here, it's hard enough/impossible enough to acquire one top-3 pick. Getting 2 would just completely ruin our prospect pool. With just Laine our forward core looks a lot better (even after we lose McCann): Baertschi - Horvat - Laine Virtanen - ******* - Boeser Gaunce - Granlund - Etem ******** - Cassels - ********* The hole we create at #2C can be replaced more easily than the hole we had at elite talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 11 hours ago, Patrick Jane said: As of right now we will draft around 8th Overall..Jake Bean? Sedin Sedin Sutter Sven Horvat Virtanen Burrows Mccann Hansen Etem Granlund Dorsett Edler Tanev Hutton Hamhuis Sbisa Tyramkin Pedan Biega Miller Markstrom Sign Hamhuis 2 year deal Bean in WHL Juolevi or Sergachev before Bean I'm also assuming we get Larsen signed, so I don't know how much roster space we will have for Hamhuis. Sedin Sedin Sutter Sven Horvat Virtanen Burrows Mccann Hansen Etem Granlund Dorsett Gaunce Edler Tanev Hutton Sbisa Tyramkin Larsen Pedan Biega Miller Markstrom using that lineup. We still have Grenier, Kenins, and Vey all out of the lineup who will need to pass through waivers to be sent down, And this roster doesn't account for Rodin coming over, or even canucks signing a UFA considering this roster will be around 12 million below the cap. If we move out Burrows that frees up another 4.5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Personally I think Burrows, Vey, & Kenins will be traded or not giving an offer. Edler will be shopped at draft, if they can find a new home for him, than canucks might consider resigning Hamhuis, if not then Hamhuis will be moved out. Canucks will throw money at Lucic. Rodin after coming off a huge MVP season in Sweden will be given a golden opportunity to see if he can be effective in the NHL. Sedin Sedin Rodin Lucic Sutter Hansen Baertschi Horvat Virtanen Etem Granlund Dorsett Grenier Edler Tanev Hutton Sbisa Tyramkin Larsen Pedan Biega Miller Markstrom McCann and Gaunce will start in the AHL (as both don’t need to clear waivers) while Grenier, Etem, Granlund and Rodin will be heavily tested. Canucks will still have around 8 million in cap space with Miller set to become UFA which will be needed as Horvat, Hutton and Markstrom will be set to make raises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Jane Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 9 minutes ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: Personally I think Burrows, Vey, & Kenins will be traded or not giving an offer. Edler will be shopped at draft, if they can find a new home for him, than canucks might consider resigning Hamhuis, if not then Hamhuis will be moved out. Canucks will throw money at Lucic. Rodin after coming off a huge MVP season in Sweden will be given a golden opportunity to see if he can be effective in the NHL. Sedin Sedin Rodin Lucic Sutter Hansen Baertschi Horvat Virtanen Etem Granlund Dorsett Grenier Edler Tanev Hutton Sbisa Tyramkin Larsen Pedan Biega Miller Markstrom McCann and Gaunce will start in the AHL (as both don’t need to clear waivers) while Grenier, Etem, Granlund and Rodin will be heavily tested. Canucks will still have around 8 million in cap space with Miller set to become UFA which will be needed as Horvat, Hutton and Markstrom will be set to make raises. If Mccann not in the lineup next year...i could see benning trading him at the draft with edler for upgraded defenceman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 2 hours ago, Horvat is a Boss said: I do think Laine is worth all that, and I would be willing to even give up a little more. But let's not get too ahead of ourselves here, it's hard enough/impossible enough to acquire one top-3 pick. Getting 2 would just completely ruin our prospect pool. With just Laine our forward core looks a lot better (even after we lose McCann): Baertschi - Horvat - Laine Virtanen - ******* - Boeser Gaunce - Granlund - Etem ******** - Cassels - ********* The hole we create at #2C can be replaced more easily than the hole we had at elite talent. I accept we would have to give up a lot to get the second Finn, but we do need elite forward talent to replace the Twins. Both Finns would do that. Wouldn't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goblix Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 too much unknown for our 2016 pick and RFAs // UFAs out there.. we may end up with a top 3 pick maybe not... anyways McCann and Cassels are going to the AHL next year, Boeser staying in college im guessing. Demko signs for Utica full time. The main unknown for me is if Hamhuis will be back next year, my guess is if a Hamhuis -- Tryamkin pairing looks good then probably yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Incidentally, I'm not very comfortable moving McCann unless we fluke out and land the 1st overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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