nucklehead Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 http://www.newskamloops.com/news/post/fossil-fuels-probably-dead-says-canadian-pacific-railway-ceo-hunter-harrison Quote MONTREAL — People need to get their heads around the idea that fossil fuels are "probably dead," the CEO of Canadian Pacific Railway said Wednesday. "I'm not maybe as green as I should be but I happen to think the climate is changing (and) they're not going to fool me anymore," Hunter Harrison told a J.P. Morgan transportation conference in New York. The veteran rail executive said the transition to alternative fuels will be long, but new investments in traditional energy sources will dry up because of environmental hurdles. The country's second-largest railway has seen shipments of crude drop due to declining demand brought on by the dramatic fall in oil prices. Thermal coal shipments have also waned. Harrison said the rail industry will have to adjust to a shift to alternative energy sources, just as it did in the 1990s when the U.S. Clean Air Act wiped away 29 per cent of the business at Illinois Central Railway that he ran at the time. "I think that it's a challenge going forward, but rails have historically dealt with those changes really well through the years and continued to survive and make it," he said. Company spokesman Jeremy Berry said later that Harrison was referring to the "overwhelming trend" towards sustainable energy and the need for all segments of the economy to acknowledge the ever-changing energy landscape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 30~40 yrs too late to 'realize' this. CO2 at 405 ppm. Dozens of 'feedback-loops' kicking in. In chess-terms, known as end-game. IC(industrial civilization) meant a few centuries of hog-wild burnin'. Humanity will lose habitat more rapidly than we can adapt. When gov'ts(& then unwashed masses) come to accept the death-knell of our living standards, agendas will get ramped-up. The 1% will do whatever they can to grub/hang onto dwindling resources. These elite claiming 'enlightenment' are full of sh*t! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YEGCanuck Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 I always chuckle to myself when I hear people say "going forward" as if to suggest there is a way to go back in time. It has become one of those trendy throw away phrases that is so over-used it is next to meaningless in today's conversation. It is almost if the speaker or writer is unsure of themselves and/or their audience and has to remind us that tomorrow really is the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianLoonie Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 But if fossil fuels are "dead". what are governments going to extract taxes/royalties from next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master 112 Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 I thought this would be an Onion piece when I read the title. No $&!# they're dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Companies like Exxon knew the price we'd pay, then did all they could to sweep the info under the carpet. The hottest fires of Hell are reserved for... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 15 minutes ago, Nuxfanabroad said: Companies like Exxon knew the price we'd pay, then did all they could to sweep the info under the carpet. The hottest fires of Hell are reserved for... ...hypocrites? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 17 minutes ago, Heretic said: ...hypocrites? meaning precisely?.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 17 minutes ago, Nuxfanabroad said: meaning precisely?.. Those that whine and complain but aren't really doing anything. I'm not denying that man hasn't affect the climate - but the earth is 4.5 billion years old and has gone through many climate changes and is still here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 7 minutes ago, Heretic said: Those that whine and complain but aren't really doing anything. I'm not denying that man hasn't affect the climate - but the earth is 4.5 billion years old and has gone through many climate changes and is still here. Appreciate your view, but we're essentially born into this set of living arrangements. It's impossible to start questioning(& refuse to adhere to) modern living from the outset. There's simply no easy answers here. The least we should expect is that all of us(at least, in the developed world) should be well-informed, & open to a better way. Just so much time's been wasted... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 1 minute ago, Nuxfanabroad said: Appreciate your view, but we're essentially born into this set of living arrangements. It's impossible to start questioning(& refuse to adhere to) modern living from the outset. There's simply no easy answers here. The least we should expect is that all of us(at least, in the developed world) should be well-informed, & open to a better way. Just so much time's been wasted... Good, I agree, so you'll drop the "special hell" now so we can all get down to business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshiyoshi Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 1 hour ago, Heretic said: Those that whine and complain but aren't really doing anything. I'm not denying that man hasn't affect the climate - but the earth is 4.5 billion years old and has gone through many climate changes and is still here. The earth will go on but most of the species alive today wont be around for much longer barring a miracle. It is possible in 200 million years or so some new species will be drilling for the oil from our remains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.DirtyDangles Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 4 hours ago, CanadianLoonie said: But if fossil fuels are "dead". what are governments going to extract taxes/royalties from next? Liquor, meds, food, water, air, you name it they will find a way to tax it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 7 hours ago, CanadianLoonie said: But if fossil fuels are "dead". what are governments going to extract taxes/royalties from next? Because humanity has developed a flawed business plan. And the owners plans for downsizing are pretty severe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Great, now let's start shifting to clean energy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliboy Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 They aren't dead but are now moving in that direction, as electric vehicles, hybrids and other clean technologies begin to take over, it will be a long, slow death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 7 minutes ago, aliboy said: They aren't dead but are now moving in that direction, as electric vehicles, hybrids and other clean technologies begin to take over, it will be a long, slow death. As it should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 6 hours ago, yoshiyoshi said: The earth will go on but most of the species alive today wont be around for much longer barring a miracle. It is possible in 200 million years or so some new species will be drilling for the oil from our remains. " More than 99 percent of all species, amounting to over five billion species,[14] that ever lived on Earth are estimated to be extinct." In other words, relatively speaking, very few have become extinct because of mankind. I'm not saying that's okay, just putting it in perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Ha, this is a joke right. Is anyone actually getting fooled by these comments. What is the biggest push in oil right now? Pipelines…..And what are pipelines…. Perhaps direct competition to rail, perhaps a greener alternative to shipping this resource by rail... Let’s not sugar coat this. What is Harrison’s really trying to say. “Once people realize fossil fuels are dead they would stop with the pipeline push and be forced to continue to use Rail as one of the main means of transportation.” This is no different than Warren Buffett played a major part of the Keystone rejection. These are rich people who stand to lose a lot of money if these new pipelines go through. Demand for Oil isn’t going away overnight, and it isn’t going away anytime soon, so they use this “green” push to maintain control of the market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwags Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 11 hours ago, Heretic said: Those that whine and complain but aren't really doing anything. I'm not denying that man hasn't affect the climate - but the earth is 4.5 billion years old and has gone through many climate changes and is still here. We've also accelerated the natural process a thousand-fold. We did in 200 years what the Earth does in one million years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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