pushfrog7 Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Here is the line-up for the 2016-2017 team without re-signing any expiring contracts so far ... D. Sedin ($7 million) - H. Sedin ($7 million) - ??? ??? - B. Horvat ($.894 million) - J. Virtanen ($.894 million) A. Burrows ($4.5 million) - B. Sutter ($4.375 million) - J. Hansen ($2.5 million) ??? - J. McCann ($.894 million) - D. Dorsett ($2.65 million) B. Gaunce ($.863 million) A. Edler ($5 million) - C. Tanev ($4.45 million) L. Sbisa ($3.6 million) - A. Biega ($.75 million) B. Hutton ($.896 million) - N. Tryamkin ($.925 million) R. Miller ($6 million) J. Markstrom ($1.55 million) R. Luongo ($.8 million) Total: $55.541 million Estimating the 2016-2017 salary cap to be around $74 million ... that's around $18 million our team has to play with. So, who does that money go towards? Expiring Contracts (with current contract value) - without including any "minor league" players: - Radim Vrbata (RW) - Pending UFA ($5 million) - Linden Vey (C/RW) - Pending RFA ($1 million) - Sven Baertschi (LW) - Pending RFA ($.9 million) - Emerson Etem (LW/RW) - Pending RFA ($.85 million) - Markus Granlund (C) - Pending RFA ($.7675 million) - Dan Hamhuis (D) - Pending UFA ($4.5 million) - Matt Bartkowski (D) - Pending UFA ($1.75 million) - Yannick Weber (D) - Pending UFA ($1.5 million) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsiders Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Etem Granlund Vey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Jane Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Etem Granlund Baer Hammer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Yes: Etem Granlund Baer No: Weber Bart Vrbata Maybe: Hammer Vey --- My yes and no guys should be pretty obvious, but with Hammer and Vey, it depends on who will be making the team next year and what UFAs GMJB is going after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Release Vrbata, Weber, and Bartkowski. I'm sure all 3 well get signed during FA. Don't know about Weber. Re-sign Baertschi to a 2 year bridge contract. Re-sign Hamhuis for 2 years (anything around $2.5m-3.5m) Give Markus Granlund and Etem something like Baertschi got last year (1 year 1m-1.3m) Re-sign Vey to a 2 years at like $1.5-1.9 mill. Anything above, no. Or trade him since he might not fit with the team in the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 4 minutes ago, Outsiders said: Etem Granlund Vey Why's Baertschi left out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Resign Bear Cheese, Etem, Granlund, Hammer and possibly Vey (depending on how he finishes the season) Let the rest go. That most likely leaves us with just under 10 mill in cap space. Try to move Burrows. If we can, that leaves us with roughly 14 mill in cap space (less if we eat salary). Use the remaining cap space to sign 1one decent forward and one good defenseman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 1 hour ago, CanuckianOne said: Yes: Etem Granlund Baer No: Weber Bart Vrbata Maybe: Hammer Vey --- My yes and no guys should be pretty obvious, but with Hammer and Vey, it depends on who will be making the team next year and what UFAs GMJB is going after. This is spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 2 hours ago, pushfrog7 said: Here is the line-up for the 2016-2017 team without re-signing any expiring contracts so far ... D. Sedin ($7 million) - H. Sedin ($7 million) - Okposo ($6.1) Baertschi ($2.4) - B. Horvat ($.894 million) - J. Virtanen ($.894 million)E. Etem ($0.975 million) - B. Sutter ($4.375 million) - J. Hansen ($2.5 million) A. Rodin ($1.1) - L. Vey ($1.2 million) - D. Dorsett ($2.65 million) B. Gaunce ($.863 million) A. Edler ($5 million) - C. Tanev ($4.45 million) B. Hutton ($0.896 million) - Jason Demers ($6.3 million) D. Hamhuis ($5.1 million) - N. Tryamkin ($.925 million) A. Pedan ($0.7925 million) - A. Biega ($0.75 million) R. Miller ($6 million) J. Markstrom ($1.55 million) R. Luongo ($.8 million) Total: $55.541 million Estimating the 2016-2017 salary cap to be around $74 million ... that's around $18 million our team has to play with. So, who does that money go towards? Expiring Contracts (with current contract value) - without including any "minor league" players: - Radim Vrbata (RW) - Pending UFA ($5 million) - Linden Vey (C/RW) - Pending RFA ($1 million) - Sven Baertschi (LW) - Pending RFA ($.9 million) - Emerson Etem (LW/RW) - Pending RFA ($.85 million) - Markus Granlund (C) - Pending RFA ($.7675 million) - Dan Hamhuis (D) - Pending UFA ($4.5 million) - Matt Bartkowski (D) - Pending UFA ($1.75 million) - Yannick Weber (D) - Pending UFA ($1.5 million) I have tinkered with the line up and budgets outlined by the OP. Varied is underlined, UFA's added also highlighted. The OP suggests $18 mill to spend, I believe the cap will be closer to $71 mill and we will have $15 mill? Its plenty! I believe we will have a run at Stamkos but grab Okposo as the competition for SS will be too hot. I hope beyond hope he ends up in Canada. But I believe it will be Anaheim or Nashville, perhaps Florida. This 23 man roster eats $6.4735 of the available cap (be it $15 or $18 mill). Leaves us loaded. When Miller's deal expires next year it will pay for raises for Horvat & Markstrom due at that time. I will have thrown $12mill at Stamkos x 6 years. But as above, not expecting to win that battle. This will still leave $5 to $7 mill to take another splash at Free agency in the summer of 2017. At which time we also look at adding Demko, Boeser & one of (Chychrun, Sergachev, Juolevi). It still makes us substantially more competitive? Math to cap $23.7175 > (from $18 mill, I believe will be more like $15 mill?) Okposa adds $6.1 mill (5 x $6.1 mill, would want 4 years but??) Burrows adds $1.5 mill (Buyout = 1/3rd $4.5mill, note > full salary subtracted below) Etem adds $0.125 mill (raise to $975K on bridge) Baertschi adds $1.5 mill (4 year x $2.4 mill long term contract) Rodin adds $1.1 mill (2 year deal) Vey adds $1.2 mill (1 year x $1.2 mill on bridge) Hamhuis adds $5.1 mill (3 years x $5.1, I am aware guys want a discount, but this actually is, and is realistic) Pedan adds $0.7925) Call up, can't protect on waivers Demers adds $6.3 mill (6 x $6.3 mill, just 27 years old right handed PMD) Math away from cap $17.244 > Vrbata - $5 mill Burrows - $4.5 mill Bartkowski - $1.75 mill Weber - $1.5 mill Sbisa - $3.6 mill (Trade for 2016 2knd round pick?) McCann - $0.894 mill (to AHL) Edit > Missed Granlund. Facepalms himself. But expect him to fit as someone is always injured. We also may have some cap ($1.2 mill?) hit further made available if we can find a buyer for Higgins with having retained some salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van 'Nuck Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Buy out Burrows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luongotv Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 17 minutes ago, Canuck Surfer said: I have tinkered with the line up and budgets outlined by the OP. Varied is underlined, UFA's added also highlighted. The OP suggests $18 mill to spend, I believe the cap will be closer to $71 mill and we will have $15 mill? Its plenty! I believe we will have a run at Stamkos but grab Okposo as the competition for SS will be too hot. I hope beyond hope he ends up in Canada. But I believe it will be Anaheim or Nashville, perhaps Florida. This 23 man roster eats $6.4735 of the available cap (be it $15 or $18 mill). Leaves us loaded. When Miller's deal expires next year it will pay for raises for Horvat & Markstrom due at that time. I will have thrown $12mill at Stamkos x 6 years. But as above, not expecting to win that battle. This will still leave $5 to $7 mill to take another splash at Free agency in the summer of 2017. At which time we also look at adding Demko, Boeser & one of (Chychrun, Sergachev, Juolevi). It still makes us substantially more competitive? Math to cap $23.7175 > (from $18 mill, I believe will be more like $15 mill?) Okposa adds $6.1 mill (5 x $6.1 mill, would want 4 years but??) Burrows adds $1.5 mill (Buyout = 1/3rd $4.5mill, note > full salary subtracted below) Etem adds $0.125 mill (raise to $975K on bridge) Baertschi adds $1.5 mill (4 year x $2.4 mill long term contract) Rodin adds $1.1 mill (2 year deal) Vey adds $1.2 mill (1 year x $1.2 mill on bridge) Hamhuis adds $5.1 mill (3 years x $5.1, I am aware guys want a discount, but this actually is, and is realistic) Pedan adds $0.7925) Call up, can't protect on waivers Demers adds $6.3 mill (6 x $6.3 mill, just 27 years old right handed PMD) Math away from cap $17.244 > Vrbata - $5 mill Burrows - $4.5 mill Bartkowski - $1.75 mill Weber - $1.5 mill Sbisa - $3.6 mill (Trade for 2016 2knd round pick?) McCann - $0.894 mill (to AHL) Edit > Missed Granlund. Facepalms himself. But expect him to fit as someone is always injured. We also may have some cap ($1.2 mill?) hit further made available if we can find a buyer for Higgins with having retained some salary. You're having a laugh aren't you mate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losing With Pride Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Where are we going to fit Matthews in? When we win the draft lottery of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpt Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 3 hours ago, pushfrog7 said: Here is the line-up for the 2016-2017 team without re-signing any expiring contracts so far ... D. Sedin ($7 million) - H. Sedin ($7 million) - ??? ??? - B. Horvat ($.894 million) - J. Virtanen ($.894 million) A. Burrows ($4.5 million) - B. Sutter ($4.375 million) - J. Hansen ($2.5 million) ??? - J. McCann ($.894 million) - D. Dorsett ($2.65 million) B. Gaunce ($.863 million) A. Edler ($5 million) - C. Tanev ($4.45 million) L. Sbisa ($3.6 million) - A. Biega ($.75 million) B. Hutton ($.896 million) - N. Tryamkin ($.925 million) R. Miller ($6 million) J. Markstrom ($1.55 million) R. Luongo ($.8 million) Total: $55.541 million Estimating the 2016-2017 salary cap to be around $74 million ... that's around $18 million our team has to play with. So, who does that money go towards? Expiring Contracts (with current contract value) - without including any "minor league" players: - Radim Vrbata (RW) - Pending UFA ($5 million) - Linden Vey (C/RW) - Pending RFA ($1 million) - Sven Baertschi (LW) - Pending RFA ($.9 million) - Emerson Etem (LW/RW) - Pending RFA ($.85 million) - Markus Granlund (C) - Pending RFA ($.7675 million) - Dan Hamhuis (D) - Pending UFA ($4.5 million) - Matt Bartkowski (D) - Pending UFA ($1.75 million) - Yannick Weber (D) - Pending UFA ($1.5 million) You also forgot Larsen and Rodin as it looks like both will be competing for a spot on the club and likely not the AHL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 granlund baertschi etem vey 2 of those I would consider trading to get a better player only! I think benning needs to get a younger 25 goal scorer cause every year there is atleast one unhappy so get one!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 2 hours ago, mpt said: You also forgot Larsen and Rodin as it looks like both will be competing for a spot on the club and likely not the AHL And Grenier and Kenins as both are no longer waiver exempt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goblix Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 Seems pretty well dependant on how the draft goes as well as how some of these RFA guys perform in these last 16 games My guess though is that Rodin, Vey, Baertschi, Granlund, and Zalewski to be resigned in terms of the forward group. I think that Grenier and Etem are competing for their spot so one of them will be traded and one resigned. Kenins walks as a UFA. Pedan, Hamhuis, Larsson probably get resigned. Maybe Fedun as a depth guy again. for training camp to see lines I'd like to try out: Sedin - Sedin - Rodin (would want to see this) Virtanen - Suter - Vey Baertschi - Horvat - Hansen Gaunce - Granlund - Grenier (G unit) Dorsett - Zalewski Hutton - Tanev Hamhuis - Tryamkin Edler - Larsson Pedan - Biega Sbisa Miller -- Markstrom Like I said many unknowns but rebuilding teams are bound to be built on many unknown quantities. Hope Grenier gets called up soon, I want to see this G unit line in action lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 - Radim Vrbata (RW) - Pending UFA ($5 million) - Linden Vey (C/RW) - Pending RFA ($1 million) - Sven Baertschi (LW) - Pending RFA ($.9 million) - Emerson Etem (LW/RW) - Pending RFA ($.85 million) - Markus Granlund (C) - Pending RFA ($.7675 million) - Dan Hamhuis (D) - Pending UFA ($4.5 million) - Matt Bartkowski (D) - Pending UFA ($1.75 million) - Yannick Weber (D) - Pending UFA ($1.5 million) Re-sign Vey at similar cost, he hasn't really improved a LOT from last year (has improved though IMO) so maybe $1-1.5M for 2 years. Re-Sign Baertschi for a longer term, he's proving he's got what it takes. 3 years, 2M per, if he wants more give him anything under 3M. On the verge of being a 20 goal scorer. Re-sign Etem short term until he proves he belongs and can produce consistently. Maybe 1 or 2 years at 1M. Similar to Etem, give Granlund a bit of a bridge contract because these 20-something games are hard to get a good guage on a player. 1 year 1M. Re-sign Hamhuis ONLY if we can't trade for or get anyone better on the left side. Edler and Hutton are fantastic first and second lefties, we need a stable 3rd pairing defenceman who can play 20 minutes in the case of injury. Hamhuis at 2M would be ideal if we can't get a bonified top-4 defenceman. Wouldn't re-sign him for anything more than 3.5M for 1 year because he's on the downswing and is going to have a Vbrata-like bad year next year. Let Bartkowski and Weber walk. Bartkowski isn't bad for a 7th defenceman but we need to have more quality throughout our defence, it starts with our top guys and ends with Bartkowski and Weber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 9 hours ago, luongotv said: You're having a laugh aren't you mate? I would have had a crack at Niskanen 2 years ago. At that time he was the best RHD on the market with skills to move the puck. He went for $5.75 mill x 7 years. This year its Demers. Its my estimation of what he will go for in this summers market. I could be overvaluing him. But the market has a tendency to overvalue free agents July 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpt Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 17 hours ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: And Grenier and Kenins as both are no longer waiver exempt No one will be claiming them, no one is claimed on waivers when they are B/C grade prospects that have never proved anything at any time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 1 minute ago, mpt said: No one will be claiming them, no one is claimed on waivers when they are B/C grade prospects that have never proved anything at any time that's what I thought about Corrado too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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