orcasgonewild Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Hey guys, so today I was reading an article by the national post. It was about how the GM's will be meeting to discuss a new draft format. Personally I'm sick of watching Edmonton win to much so I'm all for this, if they do it right. The articles link is here... http://news.nationalpost.com/sports/nhl/does-the-nhl-draft-lottery-need-a-massive-overhaul-here-are-five-ways-to-do-it. Give it a read and tell me what u think, personally I'm all for the hunger games method because it drives teams to do better. At the trade deadline a non playoff team would still make their team better to do better in the hunger games. That means more moves. Plus imagine how hard teams would compete for franchise players or atleast future first liners. Players would also get extra change in their pockets to ensure more effort. Plus in this case scenario for the Canucks, they would still get revenue that their missing for the actual playoffs. Anyways that's all from me, tell me what u think. Have an awesome day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwags Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 The Hunger Games method is the most entertaining, yet also the least likely to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gstank29 Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 The draft is fine the way it's set up this year, the only thing they need to add is a clause for repeat tankers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Actually if you go to TSN they have that same article...listed under the Oilers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickels Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 didn't read it....but here's my 2 cents. 14 teams that don't make it are given the # of ping pong balls equal to their position 1-14. ie...30th overall gets 14 gets balls, 29th gets 13 balls, 28th gets 12 balls....17th would only get 1 ball. (Top 16 playoff teams would retain their order) When drawing ping pong balls, a team can't finish worse than 5 spots away from your position.. ie.... the worst team will pick 5th overall at worst. IMO this would make tanking meaningless....think it's currently a real problem in NHL (and NBA) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desiboynux4lifee******* Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 I ran the simulator 98 times, leafs- oilers- flames got the top 3 percentage for picks. So yeah either we lose more, or we are drafting 7th lol Canucks' are not landing Mathews, he is going to either Toronto, Flames or Oilers. Now landing Matthews would be a real game changer, but we can't out tank the bottom teams, and thats due to Benning's way he has handled this team and Old man miller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Neilsons Towel Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 28 minutes ago, nickels said: didn't read it....but here's my 2 cents. 14 teams that don't make it are given the # of ping pong balls equal to their position 1-14. ie...30th overall gets 14 gets balls, 29th gets 13 balls, 28th gets 12 balls....17th would only get 1 ball. (Top 16 playoff teams would retain their order) When drawing ping pong balls, a team can't finish worse than 5 spots away from your position.. ie.... the worst team will pick 5th overall at worst. IMO this would make tanking meaningless....think it's currently a real problem in NHL (and NBA) This is EXACTLY how I think the draft should go. It should also be Televised for transparency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spitfire_Spiky Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 While I really like the hunger game idea, who doesn't more hockey and something to cheer for when your team doesn't make the playoff. The reality is it's just not going to happen, the logistics behind adding another tournament plus the viewership the actual playoff teams would lose due the these games will throw the BOG into a fit. I think the best quick fix is the Just out of reach. This will vastly change the mindset of bubble/bottom dwelling teams and force them to abandon the whole tank nation mentality. There is no way anyone signs off on the Random Results option. It does not promote leaguie parity which is what Bettman is all about. Unfortunately we all know the league is against full scale changes all at once which is where I can see them further modifying the current rules with either the Lucky Loser or the Edmonton Rule. In which case the Edmonton rule doesn't really improve the draft process or punish tanking more that the current system, unless your really bad, hence the "Edmonton Rule". All it does is limit one team from being rewarded multiple times. That leaves the lucky loser rule which could be the simplest to implement. It removes the tanking component while still rewarding non-playoff teams with higher picks then playoff teams. Regardless of what is decided it won't affect this years draft so who cares as we are headed back to the playoff next year and won't be in contention for the pick anyway. Go Canucks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekey Pete Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 On 23/02/2016 at 11:49 AM, The Sedge said: When will the NHL implement an "Edmonton Rule" to the NHL draft format. Something like, if you pick first overall in the draft one year you are ineligible for the lottery in the following year. The draft is becoming such a joke, and too much talent is going to Edmonton to waste. Apparently I'm not the only one who sees it this way. I love the 'hunger games' idea. I for one am done watching hockey when the Canucks are out. But you can guarantee I would be watching a single elimination tournament to determine draft order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tybarber Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Hunger games would be sweet, too bad it would never happen. Also hard to see players really competing for that. When are they going to change the draft eligibility year to something like 19 or 20 years old. That should be the first change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAce Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 i think they should determine the draft order from where teams are at or near the trade deadline. Most teams will compete till then but then it becomes a fire sale of any decent player in the line up and bring up as many young players to essentially 'tank' . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Just now, TheAce said: i think they should determine the draft order from where teams are at or near the trade deadline. Most teams will compete till then but then it becomes a fire sale of any decent player in the line up and bring up as many young players to essentially 'tank' . How about all teams that miss the playoffs get the same odds. They each get one ball in the lotto, and that's it. then there is no reason to tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bissurnette Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 No way the hunger games rule would work. A team like LA last year would have drafted Connor McDavid. Think about that for a second... how is that any more fair than what's happening with this draft format. I think the Edmonton rule is the best way to go. There's really no need for any team to draft more than 1 first overall every 3 years. Incorporate this rule with the current draft format somehow and you still have room to tweak it if something isn't working. Although as a side note, the Hunger games rule would be the most exciting for fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABNucksfan Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Funny how now that the Canadian teams are capitalizing on the draft lottery Buttman is now willing to change it. *removes tinfoil hat* I'm all for the Just out of reach method. Let's reward the teams that work hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87Crosby Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 The hunger games would actually be fun. I voted for that but the way they are doing it this year is probably the best one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Where's Wellwood Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 The problem with that article is that it assumes that the last place team gave up and is tanking. While that might be true some years, even if all 30 teams try their hardest right to the end of the season, somebody will finish last. Why should they be punished? With a finite number of teams someone will finish last tanking or not. Any new draft format that could result in a team like LA last year having a decent chance at getting McDavid is a non starter for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pears Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 2 hours ago, Spitfire_Spiky said: While I really like the hunger game idea, who doesn't more hockey and something to cheer for when your team doesn't make the playoff. The reality is it's just not going to happen, the logistics behind adding another tournament plus the viewership the actual playoff teams would lose due the these games will throw the BOG into a fit. I think the best quick fix is the Just out of reach. This will vastly change the mindset of bubble/bottom dwelling teams and force them to abandon the whole tank nation mentality. There is no way anyone signs off on the Random Results option. It does not promote leaguie parity which is what Bettman is all about. Unfortunately we all know the league is against full scale changes all at once which is where I can see them further modifying the current rules with either the Lucky Loser or the Edmonton Rule. In which case the Edmonton rule doesn't really improve the draft process or punish tanking more that the current system, unless your really bad, hence the "Edmonton Rule". All it does is limit one team from being rewarded multiple times. That leaves the lucky loser rule which could be the simplest to implement. It removes the tanking component while still rewarding non-playoff teams with higher picks then playoff teams. Regardless of what is decided it won't affect this years draft so who cares as we are headed back to the playoff next year and won't be in contention for the pick anyway. Go Canucks! The Hunger Games method would be great, but the tough part would be scheduling it around the playoffs. What about a football-like single game elimination round every weekend say, early morning/during the day? That way, the NHL would have the normal playoff crowd including the "The Hunger Games" tournament. Start with 14 teams that are slowly eliminated: 1st round = 7 games, 2nd round = 3/4 games, then the 1st overall championship game, or to however the math works out. If the league can figure it out I think it would be a huge win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asian player Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 New draft rule for the next 5 drafts: 1. x 2.x 3.x 30. Edmonton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hortankin Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 2 hours ago, desiboynux4lifee******* said: I ran the simulator 98 times, leafs- oilers- flames got the top 3 percentage for picks. So yeah either we lose more, or we are drafting 7th lol Canucks' are not landing Mathews, he is going to either Toronto, Flames or Oilers. Now landing Matthews would be a real game changer, but we can't out tank the bottom teams, and thats due to Benning's way he has handled this team and Old man miller. I ran it 100 times. According to that we have a 30% chance at a top 3 pick. Pretty good odds IMO. As long as we get a top 10 pick or make the playoffs ill be happy. Its the in between that really sucks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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