TheGuardian_ Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 Okay Tank Nation, is it possible? I have no problem with the team doing what they should have done last season, now. The only thing that kind of erked me was that it looks like bad management instead of a planned attack. Toronto, while not saying those words, strongly hinted that they would have pain there for a couple of seasons and the fans and media went along and embraced that decision. Vancouver fans are, for the most part, supporting the team and the young guys playing, the one's that are not so on board believed the "kool aid" was on the up and up. Hence the illusion of bad management. The subject line....now I didn't even think it was possible a few weeks ago but by the end of next week this might be in the conversation. Once again, dead last does not guarantee a top three pick, but it does give better odds. For the Nucks the top four prospects should be; 1. Mathews 2. Laine 3. Pujarvvi 4. Dubouis I think the recent shut outs should be the tell. While the defence has held some pretty good and motivated teams within striking distance, there has been a lack of strike, scoring. Nobody wins a game 0-0, there is the need of a goal. At any rate, I knew the month of March would be a monster, I posted that before, I didn't think it would be as.....advantageous for a draft pick. In February I did my annual "guess", it wasn't as selective as in the past but I did have the Nucks 3 - 5th I believe. The draft lottery is going to be held on April 30th, There is an 80% chance the worst team doesn't get the #1 pick, but a 70% chance they get a top 3. Some tables from canucksarmy;The Worst Teams Win: 1st then 2ndThe Worst Team GetsPassed Over: 2nd then 3rdThe "Best" Teams Win: 14th then 13thI'm using the term "best" gingerly here since these teams still missed the playoffs. No surprise that when the small odds are removed, the rest don't change by very much.This is the most unlikely scenario off and has just a 0.02% chance of occurring, or 1-in-5000. The chances of 12th worst winning the third lottery on top of 14th and 13th winning? Just 0.0005% or 1-in-200,000. Probably not gonna happen. It would be hilarious if it did though. Now the trick will be to get the numbers assigned for each position. The 2015 numbers are available but the 2016 numbers are being hidden from the public by the NHL. Is this to guarantee team's tanking are not getting a good pick or helping buddies of the commish? Just had to throw some tin hat stuff in there whenever there is something the NHL makes a state secret until after the deal is done. “There are 3 kinds of men. The ones that learn by readin’. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gstank29 Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 No it isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggs50 Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 Not impossible but doubt it. Canucks will be around 26-29. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derp... Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 Still think we finish 5th and win the second overall pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Barzal Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 The kid's are performing in Toronto and they have a bunch of win-able games coming up. I wouldn't put it past them to sport a winning record down the stretch. Could bode well for us if the hockey gods are smiling ... er, frowning down upon us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 10 minutes ago, TheGuardian_ said: Okay Tank Nation, is it possible? Fabulous post. Our chances of getting MUCH NEEDED elite skill in this draft are very good. Now how many elite skill guys are in the 2017 draft, because we still will need at least one more elite guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 They've got some work to do if they want to catch the Leafs, but zero goals in the past two games says anything is possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 1 minute ago, RUPERTKBD said: They've got some work to do if they want to catch the Leafs, but zero goals in the past two games says anything is possible. I mean, if we carry this hot streak forward, we could score 0 goals in the next few games! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gollumpus Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 It's possible. Is it likely, probably not. There is a good chance that they could finish as high/low as 29th. regards, G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuardian_ Posted March 20, 2016 Author Share Posted March 20, 2016 6 minutes ago, Alflives said: Fabulous post. Our chances of getting MUCH NEEDED elite skill in this draft are very good. Now how many elite skill guys are in the 2017 draft, because we still will need at least one more elite guy? The 2017 draft isn't as promising for NA forwards, but it does look fairly good for dmen. As far as can be projected the 2018 NA draft class may have a couple of impact forwards and there could be one or two in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 3 minutes ago, TheGuardian_ said: The 2017 draft isn't as promising for NA forwards, but it does look fairly good for dmen. As far as can be projected the 2018 NA draft class may have a couple of impact forwards and there could be one or two in Europe. I appreciate that you are on top of these future drafts, because I think we will be drafting high for a few seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 7 minutes ago, thejazz97 said: I love this! I like Hamhuis as the sad sack puppy dog. That suits him perfectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelicHearts Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 Naw, knowing how wonky the season has been, we will probably win a few more games just to screw the tank up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chon derry Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 do we even have a 2nd round pick this year or did we trade it away? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 Just now, chon derry said: do we even have a 2nd round pick this year or did we trade it away? Yes, we do have a second-round pick, this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliewud Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 If blue jackets give us the tortorella 2nd this year that would give us a top 5 pick + two early 2nds wow we could have another great draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numb3r 16 Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 28 minutes ago, Oliewud said: If blue jackets give us the tortorella 2nd this year that would give us a top 5 pick + two early 2nds wow we could have another great draft. They wont Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuardian_ Posted March 20, 2016 Author Share Posted March 20, 2016 Daniel doesn't think all are in, Hank mentions the possibility of moving (vaguely) on for the good of the team in a dressing room interview a few seeks ago, could it be? They are friends with Linden, this happened with Linden... Reminds me of a Beatle song, Goodbye, hello, I don't know why you say goodbye, I say hello, not the right words but.. trade and then come back? Elliot F. was talking about it a little last night, but Hank's comment was around the time Hamhuis was being shopped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glory_Days Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 Doubt we finish last, Toronto is fielding an AHL team for most part, very skilled AHL team but an AHL team nonetheless. Winnipeg has just played like garbage for last couple of months, Ladd is gone, Little is done for season and their goalies bring a whole new term to the word "suckage". I think we have a very good chance to finish in the bottom 5 though, maybe as high as 29th, picking anywhere in the top 3 would be awesome, even picking 4th or 5th would be sweet. Our luck, we finish 4th, all the teams behind us win a lottery draft pick and we wind up picking 7th! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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