Neversummer Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 So every time around this year, there is the debate about tanking or playing hard. Should you reward laziness and teams that intentionally tank to get a better % of getting #1 pick. So here is idea that will encourage every team to play hard and reward them for competitiveness and trying. At end of season, rank every team by winning %. Start the process (lottery or whatever) with #17, then #18, #19, etc ... and not at #30, then #29, etc. I think you get the idea. Don't reward incompetency and ineptitude (eg. Edmonton). So if a team plays hard but just miss playoffs, then your reward is highest chance at 1st pick. Sounds logical to me. Comments? Should I apply for job at NHL or STFU and get off CDC for a month? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 I would just say hold the draft odds the same as they were last year, but hold the pick to be won as the 3rd or 4th OA. That way, the Oilers wouldn't have gotten a generational talent like McDavid - he would have gone to Buffalo, Eichel to Arizona, and EDM would've chosen between Marner, Strome, and Hanifin. Either that, or you could keep the odds the same and move the team that wins the draft lottery to the 14th overall pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gstank29 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 This has been brought up a couple of days ago. The draft format is fine the way it is, they just need to add a repeat "tank" clause Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Where's Wellwood Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 You don't want a good team who had an off year, like Boston or LA last year, getting a McDavid or Matthews, do you? Plus some team has to finish last even if they worked their ass off. Why should they be punished? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chon derry Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 having a team be so bad for a couple of years in row ,and getting successive 1 st round picks is nothing new it happened for pittsburg 03,05 atlanta 99,01 ottawa 93, 95,96 quebec 89,90,91 sure these example's aren't as exaggerated as edmonton's 3 in arrow with a 2 year gap in getting the 4th. nothing new here. on a side note in 92 quebec then acquiered 6 player's duchesne,forsberg,hextall,ricci,huffman ,cris simon, 2 draft picks and 15 million. and became immediate contender's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekey Pete Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 27 minutes ago, Gstank29 said: This has been brought up a couple of days ago. The draft format is fine the way it is, they just need to add a repeat "tank" clause The draft format is far from fine. If your team is out of the playoffs (and clearly doing nothing to try to win) what is the point of even watching? I'm excited for the potential of a high pick this year, but it's embarrassing to the veterans of this team, and the sport as a whole when you reward losing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerrDrFunk Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Yeah, as much as it sucks to see the same team repeatedly grabbing the 1st overall pick is, the answer is not giving it to the best team that didn't make the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekey Pete Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 1 minute ago, HerrDrFunk said: Yeah, as much as it sucks to see the same team repeatedly grabbing the 1st overall pick is, the answer is not giving it to the best team that didn't make the playoffs. What about just more well rounded odds between non-playoff teams? The race to the bottom stuff is crap. You still aren't giving those top picks to the worst teams, you're giving them to the best tankers. There is no way of ensuring that the best picks go to the teams that deserve them most, when teams have no shame in willingly icing an AHL team to purposefully drop in the standings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jägermeister Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 I think every teams GM should enter a room. There are 29 chairs in a circle. The Benny Hill theme music starts. The GMs run around the chairs. Music stops. The GMs stop and sit down in one of the chairs. 1 GM is left chairless. His team picks 30th. One chair is removed. The music starts again. Rinse and repeat until a GM sits down in the last chair. His team wins the1st overall pick. Could you imagine the TV ratings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19Nazzy91 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Then the bad teams would never get better, and the same teams would constantly become contenders after missing the playoffs one year or two. Hard work can only get you so far, you also need talent to be able to do well. And you get talent from good picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerrDrFunk Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 7 minutes ago, Jägermeister said: I think every teams GM should enter a room. There are 29 chairs in a circle. The Benny Hill theme music starts. The GMs run around the chairs. Music stops. The GMs stop and sit down in one of the chairs. 1 GM is left chairless. His team picks 30th. One chair is removed. The music starts again. Rinse and repeat until a GM sits down in the last chair. His team wins the1st overall pick. Could you imagine the TV ratings? Can we make it team President instead? I like Linden's odds of winning anything that involves moving quickly over Benning's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Linden is a great choice, but if we need a ringer it's Katie Holmes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dral Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Sorry man, this isn't new... every year for the last few years someone suggests this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyLuciano Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 How about..ypu can't pick top 3 more than 2 years straight. ex: Oilers finish last place 4 years straight. First year: 1st overall Second year: 1st overall Third year: 4th overall Fourth year: 1st overall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Mac Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Rather a round robin tourney of 6 teams battling it out for top pick. Revenue city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ButcherG Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 They should give all the non playoff teams an equal chance to win the lottery. This would mean every team would be trying to make the playoffs year after year. Teams racing to make the playoffs is far more exciting than teams racing to the bottom of the standings. Some teams from day one from the beginning of the season. If all the non playoff teams have an equal chance of drafting first overall, there is no reason to suck. You are simply trying to make the playoffs until you are eliminated. People have to realize this will never happen though. The GMs and Owners make the rules. They like systems that make their jobs easier and make them look better. Like the extra loser point for example. Why would a poor GM with a substandard team want to suddenly try to be good at his job? He would have to make trades with the intention of winning them. He would have to be competitive. Since the inception of the draft, fans have been robbed of competitive hockey. This is why many fans just watch the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toews Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Before I clicked on this thread I knew that the idea would not be "revolutionary". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.Am.Ironman Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 3 hours ago, LuckyLuciano said: How about..ypu can't pick top 3 more than 2 years straight. ex: Oilers finish last place 4 years straight. First year: 1st overall Second year: 1st overall Third year: 4th overall Fourth year: 1st overall ....5th year: 1st overall Crazy but this can happen and would be such BS if it does. Even if the league implements a new clause to the draft format to prevent repeat lottery wins it will in no way impact the oilers. They walk away with Matthews and McDavid. They should be removed from the lottery this year. This clause theyy talk about should have been put into motion already after they won 3/4 1st overall picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanisleryan Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 I think its fine the way it is now with the lottery for 1 2 and 3. The only reason this topic has been so hot lately is because of Edmonton. Any other team with decent management would have never been in the position to get that 3rd 1st overall pick let alone 4th. When teams rebuild they tank for a couple of years and then trend upwards. See Chicago, Pittsburgh and many other great teams now. Edmonton is embarrassing and if they dont go out and make some serious blockbuster trades this summer and run with the same bunch again next year than the NHL should not allow them a 1st rounder next year. I have no problem with Toronto and Buffalo have done these past couple seasons its actually some very admirable GMing, you can tell they are building teams and developing players properly. In Edmonton Mitch Marner would probably be in the NHL this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCNeil Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 One thing I would like changed......that would reduce garbage games. Instead of basing the draft by end of season points.....do with the points at trade deadline. The 14 non playoff teams are in order of their deadline day point total. That way we don't get all these teams in the race at the deadline, then drop like a stone after. Like us. We didn't have much chance, but at deadline we had games on hand, that if won, would have us in the final wildcard. Then boom! We are mathematically eliminated by March 25th??? Just seems that teams that aren't going to make the playoffs, should have some reward for playing hard and winning, instead of moving a few places down the top 10 in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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