KKnight Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Pittsburgh is gonna be in a hell of a crunch with the cap. Everybody knows somebody gotta go. To Van: Letang, and a lower end player to get more cap space headed our way (example, Scott Wilson) To Pitts: Edler, Hansen, lower end prospect. For me this makes sense both direction, depending on where we end up in the draft. If we draft D i.e Chychrun, this dont make sense. For us, we get Letang who is a hell of a player and has played 60 plus games in two straight seasons. Is it a risk, Yes! but he is what this D Core needs. I just dont see any future plan that fits having Edler and Hansen in it. For Pitts, They lose Letang, but gain Edler and Hansen, who will definitely help them fill holes in the line up. Edler will help the back end put up points and move the puck. Hansen is an excellent penalty killer and is about to put up 20 goals. This make Pitts still in the hunt for a few more of Crosby and Malkin's Prime years. Tryamkin - Letang Hutton -Tanev Sbisa - Larsen ex. Biega, Pedan That looks a lot better to me. Tryamin top pairing maybe not, but this is fantasy, so get over it There are obviously other options we can try and go for ex. Hamonic, Barrie, Yandle blah blah blah, Tell me what ya think! Word! Sedin - Sedin - Laine or Puljujarvi Lucic - Sutter - Virtanen Baertschi - Horvat - Rodin Etem - Granlund/ Gaunce - Dorsett ex. Vey Tryamkin - Letang Hutton - Tanev Sbisa - Larsen ex. Biega, Pedan Miller Markstrom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chon derry Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 i've been hating on elder all season wanting him to waive his ntc , but maybe all this extra time off with injury he can return rejuvenated. fingers crossed. hansen's too valuable on the output/cost scale of things , letang is good ,just a little to prone to injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aircool Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 I mean, I know everyone is bored, but I "love" all these proposals to acquire players like Letang. Do you really think that a 28 y/o, Injury-prone defenseman fits with this teams timeline for contention? If Pittsburgh would agree to that trade, I think we'd be getting good value, but do you think that is what this team realistically needs to be acquiring? In my opinion, this team needs to be acquiring as many elite, or will-be elite, young players as possible. That means anyone aged 22 and under. If you can't trade for them, then you draft them. If you can't acquire "elite" talent, then go for future top-6 and top-4 young talent. So if you subscribe to my opinion, then this trade makes no sense. The reality is, trades like this just don't help the team win a cup, they only make it harder relative to the other assets we could be acquiring. So please people, I know you are bored, but enough with these trade proposals for players that are about to pass their prime... It's just a bad idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 First, Letang earns $7.25 million. Hansen and Edler make $7.5 million combined. How exactly does that save them money? It also doesn't fit the rebuild timeline. If Eddie gets moved it should be for a prime D prospect (basically NHL-ready, or near) and late 1st or early 2nd. Letang'll likely fetch similar return, if not slightly better. Hansen probably gets 2nd and 3rd? Either way moves should be for futures at this point in time, or basically NHL-ready assets. Also, if we're trading Edler we better at least be keeping Hammer to stabilize the top pairing. Whether from a mentoring or stabilizing perspective, having Hammer on the team is an invaluable asset, and since we didn't trade him at the T.D.L. the team better be keeping him and not just letting him walk. I'd be happy to shelter Nikita on the bottom pair for now, so he can really get used to playing N.A. style of hockey vs getting rushed into things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal1 Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 34 minutes ago, Phil_314 said: First, Letang earns $7.25 million. Hansen and Edler make $7.5 million combined. How exactly does that save them money? It also doesn't fit the rebuild timeline. If Eddie gets moved it should be for a prime D prospect (basically NHL-ready, or near) and late 1st or early 2nd. Letang'll likely fetch similar return, if not slightly better. Hansen probably gets 2nd and 3rd? Either way moves should be for futures at this point in time, or basically NHL-ready assets. Also, if we're trading Edler we better at least be keeping Hammer to stabilize the top pairing. Whether from a mentoring or stabilizing perspective, having Hammer on the team is an invaluable asset, and since we didn't trade him at the T.D.L. the team better be keeping him and not just letting him walk. I'd be happy to shelter Nikita on the bottom pair for now, so he can really get used to playing N.A. style of hockey vs getting rushed into things. First, Letang earns $7.25 million. Hansen and Edler make $7.5 million combined. How exactly does that save them money? Obviously, there is a need for a quick lesson in capology here. The cap says you can only spend X dollars on salaries. The number of players on the roster is fixed, therefore, having two players for the price of one helps you cap-wise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKnight Posted March 25, 2016 Author Share Posted March 25, 2016 1 hour ago, coastal1 said: First, Letang earns $7.25 million. Hansen and Edler make $7.5 million combined. How exactly does that save them money? Obviously, there is a need for a quick lesson in capology here. The cap says you can only spend X dollars on salaries. The number of players on the roster is fixed, therefore, having two players for the price of one helps you cap-wise! My thoughts exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 2 hours ago, coastal1 said: First, Letang earns $7.25 million. Hansen and Edler make $7.5 million combined. How exactly does that save them money? Obviously, there is a need for a quick lesson in capology here. The cap says you can only spend X dollars on salaries. The number of players on the roster is fixed, therefore, having two players for the price of one helps you cap-wise! That'll depend on whose spot in the roster Hansen is taking. He's not taking Kessel or Hagelin out of the lineup, so he's more likely removing a player with a sub-$1M (and even more likely a ~$600K) cap hit. So Edler and Hansen don't just replace Letang, they also move out a player like Tom Kuhnhackl or Bryan Rust. So $7.5M for $7.9M as far as the Penguins are concerned, only a small savings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billabong Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 What if we get the 4th overall pick and we send that pick to wpg for trouba? If we get a top 3 pick then we draft no matter what those are players you can't miss, but shipping away our pick after that for a dman is best to wpg: 4th overall to van: trouba sign him 6yrs/6.5m per if he won't Accept a bridge deal edler-tanev sbisa-trouba hutton-tryamkin pedan-biega larsen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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