1 Miller or 6 Million ?

[nickels]

Curious what people would rather have going in to the off season....Miller or 6 Million in Cap space.

 

Would Miller even be claimed at pro rated salary till the end of the year ?

 

Can his contract even be placed on waivers ?

 

With so many playoff teams having question marks in goal, would now be a good time to place Miller on waivers ?  Most teams can afford the reduced Cap hit (this won't be the case in the off season when all 6 million will need to be covered)

 

This team is no threat to challenge for the cup next year.

 

I personally would rather hand the reigns over to Markstrom (sign a cheap back up), and use the 6 million to upgrade in other areas 

[thejazz97]

Miller. Unless we get a good deal on him.

[Chalky]

At this point I'd have to say keep Miller for his last contract year, give Markstrom more games, and try and get a pick for him by the deadline if next season is anything like this season.  He is still an excellent goalie, and trying to bury a contract everyone signed in good faith seems like a bad idea if we plan on ever signing anther big name FA again.

[Losing With Pride]

2nd and 4th round picks at the deadline.

[Ghostsof1915]

Depends on Demko. Training Camp, and the goalie market. If Demko is going pro, does outstanding in training camp and we can do a 56/24 split with Markstrom/Demko. If he's in training camp and can't handle it. We can send him to Utica for a year. If there's a College UFA or UFA pickup that shines in training camp. Move Miller.  I like the guy, but $6 million per, guys like Martin Jones and Brian Elliott are providing great goaltending at 1/2 the price. 

[Apple Juice]

Miller ain't the problem. Yes, he'll let in soft goals and have bad games but that happens to every goalie in the league. It's the shoddy defence in front of him and you can see his frustration a few times on goals which he allows, which most likely falls on the defence in front of him.

[Ghostsof1915]

1 minute ago, Apple Juice said:

Miller ain't the problem. Yes, he'll let in soft goals and have bad games but that happens to every goalie in the league. It's the shoddy defence in front of him and you can see his frustration a few times on goals which he allows, which most likely falls on the defence in front of him.

Thus the argument if we don't have Miller thats $6 million to spend on improving the defence. 

[Apple Juice]

1 minute ago, Ghostsof1915 said:

Thus the argument if we don't have Miller thats $6 million to spend on improving the defence. 

So if we have 6 million to spend on improving the defence and Markstrom doesn't play lights out, people are gonna blame Markstrom? It's the same thing

[Ghostsof1915]

3 minutes ago, Apple Juice said:

So if we have 6 million to spend on improving the defence and Markstrom doesn't play lights out, people are gonna blame Markstrom? It's the same thing

The deadly vicious cycle. And it begs the question are there any quality D-men in free agency?

[Apple Juice]

2 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said:

The deadly vicious cycle. And it begs the question are there any quality D-men in free agency?

Brian Campbell, Dan Hamhuis, Willie Mitchell, Alex Goligoski, Kyle Quincey, Dan Boyle, to name a few.. however I believe all these names will either be re-signed by their current teams or will retire, especially the case with Boyle.

 

However I do believe Dallas will have to make a decision on who to re-sign... Goligoski, Demers, or Russell and one of these guys will most likely hit free agency

[AriGold]

I hate to say it but keep Miller for 1 more season then bring Demko in to split time with Markstrom for the 2017/2018 season.

[higgyfan]

It's hard to tell what team management will do next season.  On the one hand, JB has stated that he won't do much via UFAs; but on the other, he has stated in the past that he thinks it's best for the team to make the playoffs.

 

He obviously needs to move Miller before trade deadline, but if he waits too long, that could end up like the Hamhuis situation.  Best case scenario is for a western, contending team requiring a #1 goalie long before TD.  Nucks would probably have to retain some cap.  It sure would be nice to get a decent prospect or young player in return.

 

Demko will need some time in Utica, so they would be looking for a backup that is good enough to play 25-30 games.

[Me_]

37 minutes ago, nickels said:

Curious what people would rather have going in to the off season....Miller or 6 Million in Cap space.

 

Would Miller even be claimed at pro rated salary till the end of the year ?

 

Can his contract even be placed on waivers ?

 

With so many playoff teams having question marks in goal, would now be a good time to place Miller on waivers ?  Most teams can afford the reduced Cap hit (this won't be the case in the off season when all 6 million will need to be covered)

 

This team is no threat to challenge for the cup next year.

 

I personally would rather hand the reigns over to Markstrom (sign a cheap back up), and use the 6 million to upgrade in other areas 

Miller is a Benning man. He's not going anywhere Miler doesn't want to go to. If Miller asks to be traded, that is a different story. Concerning cap space, I don't know what the fuss is all about. The Canucks are rookie heavy. There should be plenty of cap space to go around.

 

The seven million dollar Sedins are here to stay and either retire or sign another, lower value twilight contract.

Vrbata has played his last game as a Canucks. That is five million off the books.

Hansen becomes a bargain next year as his salary is greater than his cap hit.

Higgins' 2.5 million might be off the books. He still has another year on his contract. He is either toiling for the Canucks, is in the minors or a trade might have to be brokered. Hopefully not another buyout.

Edler is Edler. He's staying for better of for worse if not based on principle of having negotiated an NTC.

Hamhuis could be re-signed for a bit less than 4.5 million as a T6D and mentor for a twilight contract.

Tanev is a great deal regardless of what angle you look at that contract.

Sbisa's 3.6 million dollar cap hit is really non-intrusive.

Bartkowski and Weber are out in favor of new young blood.

Burrows' contract is probably the worst contract on the team right now but it's Burrows. He has given so much and I am absolutely sure that his attitude as a leader is much appreciated in the locker room. He's our Ryan Smyth.

 

To me, that is the contract that could maybe be shed but in reality, even though his production is way down, the intangibles burrows brings to the team might outweigh his salary; like Hamhuis.

 

The Canucks got rid of a lot of fat in the last year. I am very glad they did it and are now gunning for Matthews' consolation prize Chychrun.

 

The Canucks are in great shape. If they don't get rid of any current salary for the upcoming season, they will still have ... under a projected $74.5 million dollar salary cap and that does not include expansion money, which will probably be reflected in the 2017-2018 cap.

 

OFFENSE

$37,261,000.00

Excl. Higgins @ $2.500 MIL, Incl. Burrows @ $4.500 MIL

 

DEFENSE

$15,471,000.00

Excl. Hamhuis @ $4.500 MIL

 

GOALTENDING

$7,500,000.00

 

TOTAL CAP HIT

$60,232,000.00

 

IN THE BANK

$13,768,000.00

 

RFA

Vey, Baertschi, Etem, Granlund, Pedan

 

UFA

Vrbata, Hamhuisk Bartkowski, Weber

 

[Heretic]

We're not going anywhere next year anyways, so it makes no difference.

[DJSkingz]

Keep Miller, give Marky the lions share and get Demko to Utica. Move Miller at the deadline.

 

Next year Demko moves up to backup Marky.

[Heretic]

Just now, DJSkingz said:

Keep Miller, give Marky the lions share and get Demko to Utica. Move Miller at the deadline.

 

Next year Demko moves up to backup Marky.

I'd say 50/50....and if no one wanted Miller this past deadline, what makes you think we can move him at the next one?

 

Only way would be if a playoff bound team lost their number 1 goalie for the season close to the deadline....

[TimberWolf]

6 Millerions

[wai_lai416]

what makes you think this team will spend to the cap next year? sure we have cap space.. but do we have the draw as a rebuilding team to the big name free agents out there? probably not?

[TimberWolf]

7 minutes ago, wai_lai416 said:

what makes you think this team will spend to the cap next year? sure we have cap space.. but do we have the draw as a rebuilding team to the big name free agents out there? probably not?

 

 

They'll spend to the cap, but on bottom six free agents. 

[Devon Jade]

I'd say we keep Miller until Markstrom is the clear-cut number 1. Markstrom is already slightly better than Miller statistically so it shouldn't be long until Marky develops into the elite goalie we all know he can be.