harjnijh Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 I'm thinking around 20 million hopefully Dump: Vrbata 5 mill Prust 2 mill Burrows 3 mill Hamhus 4.5 Bart 1.75 Weber 1.5 Higgins 2.5 that equals $ 20 mill what do you guys think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THERETOOL Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 i think your close give or take around 4 million .. im guessing well have around 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCNeil Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 55 minutes ago, harjnijh said: I'm thinking around 20 million hopefully Dump: Vrbata 5 mill Prust 2 mill Burrows 3 mill Hamhus 4.5 Bart 1.75 Weber 1.5 Higgins 2.5 that equals $ 20 mill what do you guys think? Burrows cap hit is $4.5, his salary is $3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaerToBo Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 2 minutes ago, BCNeil said: Burrows cap hit is $4.5, his salary is $3. Hes talking about cap space... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harvey Spector Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 1 hour ago, harjnijh said: I'm thinking around 20 million hopefully Dump: Vrbata 5 mill Prust 2 mill Burrows 3 mill Hamhus 4.5 Bart 1.75 Weber 1.5 Higgins 2.5 that equals $ 20 mill what do you guys think? Burrows has a $4.5 million cap hit not $3 million, also he has one more year left on his contract so unless you can trade him and the other team absorbs his full cap hit, the most you can clear is $2 million by buying him out. So his cap hit next year for not being on the roster would be $2.5 million. Higgins would have to be bought out as well and his cap hit would be $833,000. So around $3.3 million total to buy them both out as a 2016 cap hit. The others are UFA's so that would mean the Canucks would have around $18.5 million in cap space under this scenario. You then have to look at all the RFA's they need to sign which will eat up some of that $17 million. Baertschi, Vey, Etem, Granlund, Grenier, Zalewski, Pedan, Kenins. They may not keep them all but I would assume Baer, Granlund, Pedan and Etem get raises and are kept. So that' probably around $3 million needed to keep RFA's. So at the end of the day we will have maybe $15.5 million in cap space with 2-3 roster spots available. So definitely enough to sign one big name UFA and maybe 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Jane Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 for free agency we will have close to 13-14 million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 12 hours ago, BaerToBo said: Hes talking about cap space... So, again... 12 hours ago, BCNeil said: Burrows cap hit is $4.5, his salary is $3. But we won't be dumping all those contracts. A lot of them, sure, but not all. Burrows is likely still here even if we buy out Higgins. Hamhuis could re-sign. The other UFAs on your list are likely gone though. Oh, and OP, don't forget to put a tag of some sort on any threads you make in the Proposals sub-forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJSkingz Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 11 hours ago, Harvey Spector said: Burrows has a $4.5 million cap hit not $3 million, also he has one more year left on his contract so unless you can trade him and the other team absorbs his full cap hit, the most you can clear is $2 million by buying him out. So his cap hit next year for not being on the roster would be $2.5 million. Higgins would have to be bought out as well and his cap hit would be $833,000. So around $3.3 million total to buy them both out as a 2016 cap hit. The others are UFA's so that would mean the Canucks would have around $18.5 million in cap space under this scenario. You then have to look at all the RFA's they need to sign which will eat up some of that $17 million. Baertschi, Vey, Etem, Granlund, Grenier, Zalewski, Pedan, Kenins. They may not keep them all but I would assume Baer, Granlund, Pedan and Etem get raises and are kept. So that' probably around $3 million needed to keep RFA's. So at the end of the day we will have maybe $15.5 million in cap space with 2-3 roster spots available. So definitely enough to sign one big name UFA and maybe 2. Out of those RFA's I would keep: Baertschi - had a good year Granlund - just to see what you really have for a full season. Otherwise Shink was wasted Zalewski - good depth fwd/option for Utica Pedan - for obvious reasons I'm on the fence about Etem. He could be good or could be exactly what we have seen and what he has shown in Anaheim and New York. Cut our losses with Vey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captaincowbasher Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Well when the Sedins(14mil) and Sbisa(3.6) are traded to the Islanders we'll retain 4 of the 14 million and we'll need to take into account 4mil for Hamonic and 1.5 mil for Strome there's another 8.1 mil opened up. Plus we'll get their 2016 1st rounder and a 2017 2nd rounder. This would pretty much set the team up for years to come, don't forget the Canucks will land one of the top 3 players in this years draft which will have an impact on the team next year and with Boeser on his way this team will be fast skilled and very dynamic. Yes they will be young but unlike the Oilers they will have a very steady Defence and rock solid goaltending. new look lines: Lucic Strome Laine Granlund Sutter Virtanen Baertschi Horvat McCann Rodin Vey Hansen Edler Hamonic Hutton Tanev Hamhuis Tryamkin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCNeil Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 13 hours ago, BaerToBo said: Hes talking about cap space... Yes I know. That's why I corrected his figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 I'm not sure why we're concerned about Cap space. Unless for some strange reason, Steven Stamkos wants to play for a bottom feeder, there are no UFAs that can magically turn this roster into a contender. Stay the course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 13 hours ago, Harvey Spector said: Burrows has a $4.5 million cap hit not $3 million, also he has one more year left on his contract so unless you can trade him and the other team absorbs his full cap hit, the most you can clear is $2 million by buying him out. So his cap hit next year for not being on the roster would be $2.5 million. Higgins would have to be bought out as well and his cap hit would be $833,000. So around $3.3 million total to buy them both out as a 2016 cap hit. The others are UFA's so that would mean the Canucks would have around $18.5 million in cap space under this scenario. You then have to look at all the RFA's they need to sign which will eat up some of that $17 million. Baertschi, Vey, Etem, Granlund, Grenier, Zalewski, Pedan, Kenins. They may not keep them all but I would assume Baer, Granlund, Pedan and Etem get raises and are kept. So that' probably around $3 million needed to keep RFA's. So at the end of the day we will have maybe $15.5 million in cap space with 2-3 roster spots available. So definitely enough to sign one big name UFA and maybe 2. Higgins and Burrows could both be waived saving almost $1m of their respective hits as another option as well. Leaving you at ~$1.5m for Higgins and ~$3.5m for Burrows which would leave us closer to ~$14m barring other possible moves (Edler, Miller etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toews Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 1 hour ago, RUPERTKBD said: I'm not sure why we're concerned about Cap space. Unless for some strange reason, Steven Stamkos wants to play for a bottom feeder, there are no UFAs that can magically turn this roster into a contender. Stay the course. Agree with this. The Canucks don't need to overindulge in this year's market. The Canucks should look for value in this year's market. Anyone who overprices himself this team should stay the hell away from. This means guys like Lucic, Yandle, Ladd, Eriksson etc who will all get premium dollars. If there is someone that can help make this team better without sacrificing both long term and short term cap flexibility, then you do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harvey Spector Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 1 hour ago, J.R. said: Higgins and Burrows could both be waived saving almost $1m of their respective hits as another option as well. Leaving you at ~$1.5m for Higgins and ~$3.5m for Burrows which would leave us closer to ~$14m barring other possible moves (Edler, Miller etc). This is true but if they are waived and clear then they will both have to go to Utica and Francesco will still have to pay their full salary. So even though like you mentioned we will save an additional roughly $2 million in cap space by waiving them Francesco would still have to cough up $7 million in additional salary to two players playing in the minors. I'm thinking Frankie won't be too amenable to doing that!! Plus would Burrows even report? I'm sure he would retire before reporting so that may take care of having to pay his full salary. Another option ion would be to try and trade Burrows and retain $2.5 million. We'd just have to find a willing trade partner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 2 minutes ago, Harvey Spector said: This is true but if they are waived and clear then they will both have to go to Utica and Francesco will still have to pay their full salary. So even though like you mentioned we will save an additional roughly $2 million in cap space by waiving them Francesco would still have to cough up $7 million in additional salary to two players playing in the minors. I'm thinking Frankie won't be too amenable to doing that!! Plus would Burrows even report? I'm sure he would retire before reporting so that may take care of having to pay his full salary. Another option ion would be to try and trade Burrows and retain $2.5 million. We'd just have to find a willing trade partner. I think he'd prefer paying them to at least still play for the organization rather than for another one... I sure would if I was FA. He's paying them either way (and BTW, Burr's actual salary is only $3m next year so FA would only be paying them $5.5m combined, not $7m). What makes you think Burr wouldn't report? I think he'd be an excellent player/coach and while he'd certainly prefer to stay in the NHL, would be the excellent soldier he always has. The most we can retain is $2.25m (1/2 his cap hit) and I'm doubtful we find a partner even at that price. 35 Year old 4th liners simply don't get paid that in today's NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harvey Spector Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 1 minute ago, J.R. said: I think he'd prefer paying them to at least still play for the organization rather than for another one... I sure would if I was FA. He's paying them either way (and BTW, Burr's actual salary is only $3m next year so FA would only be paying them $5.5m combined, not $7m). What makes you think Burr wouldn't report? I think he'd be an excellent player/coach and while he'd certainly prefer to stay in the NHL, would be the excellent soldier he always has. The most we can retain is $2.25m (1/2 his cap hit) and I'm doubtful we find a partner even at that price. 35 Year old 4th liners simply don't get paid that in today's NHL. Those are good points. I forgot Burrows salary is only $3 million. I guess for $3 million we would all report!! Burrows has a lot of character and is a true Canuck, just like Bieksa and unlike Kesler. I am sure TL and JB can come up with an amicable solution in regards to Burr to make all parties happy. He's always been a team guy, even now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 1 minute ago, Harvey Spector said: Those are good points. I forgot Burrows salary is only $3 million. I guess for $3 million we would all report!! Burrows has a lot of character and is a true Canuck, just like Bieksa and unlike Kesler. I am sure TL and JB can come up with an amicable solution in regards to Burr to make all parties happy. He's always been a team guy, even now. The ideal scenario IMO is that he gets waived to Utica to mentor and give them a solid vet presence and available for Canucks call up depth. Call him up for the last one/couple Canucks home games next year and let him retire a Canuck (to resounding standing O's). Promptly offer him an associate coaching gig (likely in Utica to start) as soon as the season is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 I think around 14-15M in cap space. Sign a top-6 scoring winger for 6M Sign a top-4 defenceman for 7M Draft Chychrun at 3rd - 7th overall where we'll be picking Let the kids do the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 On 3/31/2016 at 9:22 PM, harjnijh said: I'm thinking around 20 million hopefully Dump: Vrbata 5 mill Prust 2 mill Burrows 3 mill Hamhus 4.5 Bart 1.75 Weber 1.5 Higgins 2.5 that equals $ 20 mill what do you guys think? Trade Edler and Hansen for draft picks. That adds how much more? 9mil? That's 29mil. Stamkos and Lucic + plenty for signing our own RFAs. WE WIN the friggin Cup next season! Ha! Worst to first! Go BO Go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 1 hour ago, DownUndaCanuck said: I think around 14-15M in cap space. Sign a top-6 scoring winger for 6M Sign a top-4 defenceman for 7M Draft Chychrun at 3rd - 7th overall where we'll be picking Let the kids do the rest. Okposo and Demers (or Goligoski) LOVE it if we could move Edler(+) (or Tanev if we could sign Demers) for Hamonic/Gudbranson/Petrovic etc too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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