Bob Long Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 OK lets say the tank nation doom scenario plays out, and we end up with a 10th or worse pick. If that happens, is there an RFA that anyone thinks we should go after, either through trading our 1st round pick this year or giving up our 2017 1st via offer sheet? If we offer sheet 3.6 to 5.4 mil per year, the compensation is a 1st round and 3rd. Assuming we can't get the "foundational" guy through this years draft, is there a guy out there that is worth going big on an offer sheet? Here's the generalfanager list of RFAs: http://www.generalfanager.com/freeagents?expiryyear=2016&position=F&shoots=Both&team=all&RFA=1 I personally don't see it on this years list, but I'd like to know what others think. IMO giving up our 2nd rounder for Vatanen (RHD, mobile, great shot, and probably our best PP D guy next year) would be well worth it. I'm not concerned at all about any negativity that comes with offer sheets, its been done to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollumpus Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 3 minutes ago, Bob Long said: OK lets say the tank nation doom scenario plays out, and we end up with a 10th or worse pick. If that happens, is there an RFA that anyone thinks we should go after? If we offer sheet 3.6 to 5.4 mil per year, the compensation is a 1st round and 3rd. Assuming we can't get the "foundational" guy through this years draft, is there a guy out there that is worth going big on an offer sheet? Here's the generalfanager list of RFAs: http://www.generalfanager.com/freeagents?expiryyear=2016&position=F&shoots=Both&team=all&RFA=1 I personally don't see it on this years list, but I'd like to know what others think. IMO giving up our 2nd rounder for Vatanen (RHD, mobile, great shot, and probably our best PP D guy next year) would be well worth it. I'm not concerned at all about any negativity that comes with offer sheets, its been done to us. If the guy is worth 3.6 to 5.4 million then chances are his current team will just go ahead and sign him to the deal offered to him by the Canucks. You would likely have to way overpay a RFA to have his current team let him go, which likely means that the Canucks would be giving up more than a 1st and a 3rd, and they'd be sitting on a very big contract while they are already fairly tight to the cap (ie. you're giving the RFA Vrbata's cap PLUS some more on top of that, and this is before the team's current RFA's and UFA's get signed). On the other hand, if the other team let's the guy walk for a 1st and a 3rd then maybe it wasn't a good idea to try and sign him in the first place... regards, G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 We need a left wing. If we draft fourth overall, could we try for geaudrou and draft chychrun? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 I heard somewhere that Benning wanted Palmieri over Bonino, so I could definitely see him going for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted April 2, 2016 Author Share Posted April 2, 2016 13 minutes ago, Gollumpus said: If the guy is worth 3.6 to 5.4 million then chances are his current team will just go ahead and sign him to the deal offered to him by the Canucks. ahh but that's just it - there are a few very cap crunch teams that wouldn't be able to match. I don't know enough about the entire F list so thats why I'm wondering if someone knows of a talent that would be worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MayRayDown Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 Isn't it next year's draft picks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollumpus Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 14 minutes ago, MayRayDown said: Isn't it next year's draft picks? You are correct. The signing would have to wait until free agency hits, which is after the draft. This being said, we could just assume that the Canucks will do poorly next year... regards, G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowardrobertford Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 Terrible idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MayRayDown Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 6 minutes ago, Gollumpus said: You are correct. The signing would have to wait until free agency hits, which is after the draft. This being said, we could just assume that the Canucks will do poorly next year... regards, G. But we get Mathews, Stamkos and Lucic this year lol impossible!!!! We SC champs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted April 2, 2016 Author Share Posted April 2, 2016 1 hour ago, MayRayDown said: Isn't it next year's draft picks? Sorry should have clarified - 2017 pick or threaten offer sheet and trade the 2016 if its 10th or worse - i'll modify the op. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted April 2, 2016 Author Share Posted April 2, 2016 1 hour ago, Cowardrobertford said: Terrible idea Even if we were able to land a key young foundational piece this way? Someone else has already taken the risk and put in the development time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaner Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 @Monty Any updates on the Trouba situation in the Peg? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 Words that I never want to hear again. Foundational player. It's a process. It's Good/Very Good. Might as well say no comment, it's less annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaner Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 I wouldn't be surprised to see Benning go after an RFA defensman. I remember reading somewhere that they 'could' be in the RFA market. In my opinion, Lucic will be a Canucks come July 1st given the sticky cap situation they have in L.A. All of that combined with possibly one of the Fins, and we are looking strong next season. Sedin - Sedin - Hansen Lucic - Sutter - Pool Party Baer - Horvat - Virtanen Gaunce - Vey - Dorsett Tanev - Edler Barrie - XXX Hammer - Tryamkin Markstrom Miller One can wish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowardrobertford Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 2 hours ago, Cowardrobertford said: Error Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 4 hours ago, Stamkos said: We need a left wing. If we draft fourth overall, could we try for geaudrou and draft chychrun? Gaudreau can't be offer-sheeted this summer. Lucky for Calgary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harvey Spector Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Tyson Barrie would be the only one that would interest me. Local boy, PMD who can quarterback our power play. However I don't see Colorado in too much of a cap crunch. Maybe the best way to deal with them is via a trade. Not sure what Colorado would want or what we would offer, but trading for Barrie is always a possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 4 hours ago, SwedeHockey said: @Monty Any updates on the Trouba situation in the Peg? Kurt Overhardt is a screwed agent, and he's trying to get maximum dollar for him (as usual). Difficult thing is that Trouba hasn't exploded offensively like he and the Jets expected him to, so the money it was reported that he was asking for is seen as a joke at this point. However, the argument from Trouba's camp is "If Jacob were getting top minutes like Buff is getting, I'm sure he would be putting up better numbers (see: Seth Jones in Columbus). This is a fair argument for his agent to make. While Trouba is certainly no Jones, the argument that he would be putting up better numbers offensively if given top pairing minutes is a fair argument to make. That said, ANY defenseman given top pairing minutes would put up better numbers. The argument on the Jets side is, "We'll give you more money someday, you just have to earn it first." In my opinion, as much as I like Trouba and what he brings, the Jets don't need him at this point. They already have Buff locked up and Myers is anchoring the second pairing with an incredibly affordable contract, so no reason to keep Trouba around. And with Tucker Poolman reportedly ready to make the jump to the main club next season, Trouba really is no longer needed, especially at his reported asking price. However, there's no way the Jets trade him to a Western team. He has a lot of value and I'm sure they can get what they want from a team out East (ie: Carolina, Detroit, Islanders especially). More importantly, even just those teams have far more interesting prospects than the Canucks have to offer, and with the added benefit of not making a team in their conference better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Gudbranson. At the very least we could use the threat of an offer sheet on him to grab Petrovic via trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrevorLinden4ever Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 6 hours ago, Bob Long said: Assuming we can't get the "foundational" guy through this years draft, is there a guy out there that is worth going big on an offer sheet? Here's the generalfanager list of RFAs: http://www.generalfanager.com/freeagents?expiryyear=2016&position=F&shoots=Both&team=all&RFA=1 Perhaps Jiri Tlusty is the foundational guy that can play with the Sedins, to sign as a UFA. Sign him for 5 million. The link has the information, whats your excuse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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