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Patrick Kane Canucks Franchise Player

Patrick Kane

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Probably no top 3 pick, missing out on Matthews, Laine and Puljujärvi

 

Sedins retiring soon, and have declined to 55-60pt players and lost durability.

 

Garbage goaltending depth, Demko is GREAT, but goalies are hit or a miss and take 3-5 years to develop.

                                                       FIXED^

 

Bottom 3 defense corps in the NHL (active roster AND prospects)

  •     Edler - #3-4 on most good teams
  •     Tanev - #3-4 on most good teams
  •     Hutton - lone bright star, but lets not get ahead of our selves, probably tops out as a #3-4 (like Ryan Ellis)
  •     Tryamkin - only time will tell, but a lot of 'mammoth' sized defenseman have failed.
  •     Sbisa - lol
  •     Biega - lol
  •     Pedan - lol

    
Vrbata and Hamhuis not traded for assets, Vrbata likely to walk, Hamhuis to decline to a #4-5 defenseman.

 

Lack of high end forward prospects.

  •     Baertschi looks good, a 25g/25a guy.
  •     Horvat looks to be a 40-55pt 2nd-3rd line tweener.
  •     Virtanen = Raffi Torres 2.0
  •     McCann has upside, but years away from breaking out. Tops out as a 2C.
  •     Etem, Vey, Gaunce, Granlund, Cassells laughable.  
  •     Boeser wild card, see how he can translate to pro...

   
Horrible contracts still with:

  •     Burrows
  •     Dorsett
  •     Sutter
  •     Higgins
  •     Sbisa
  •     Miller

 

Worst general manager in the league employed right now, who can't even sign a player properly.

 

Worst ownership to have for a 'rebuild', will likely push for playoffs next season...


Overall, only bright spots...

  • Hansen (2.5m player who can chip in 40-45pts, but he did play with the Sedins...)
  • Horvat (Probably will end up quite solid, but don't expect him to replace Henrik Sedin)
  • Baertschi (Looks to be a solid 2nd line winger in the future, but I don't see him doing it year after year, will occasionally have big flop seasons)
  • McCann (Has shown spurts of being a good player)
  • Hutton (Steal of a pick, but is no Duncan Keith in the backend, maybe a solid top 4 guy)

 

I expect 5 years of bottom 10 finishes for the Canucks.

 

The funny part is, fans don't realize 'Dark times' are needed to build a potential dynasty/perennial contender.

 

Chicago, Pittsburgh, Los Angeles, etc..

 

Not every team can be like Detroit.

 

I'll continue watching, and hope they lose, lose, lose and keep playing the youth like they have this year, but 90% of people in this thread are being sensitive, but the truth is CURRENT state of this franchise is very bad is all I'm saying.

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8 minutes ago, Patrick Kane said:

Probably no top 3 pick, missing out on Matthews, Laine and Puljujärvi

 

Sedins retiring soon, and have declined to 55-60pt players and lost durability.

 

Garbage goaltending depth, Demko looks okay, but goalies are hit or a miss, and hell he might not even sign.

 

Bottom 3 defense corpse in the NHL (active roster AND prospects)

  •     Edler - #4 on most good teams
  •     Tanev - #3-4 on most good teams
  •     Hutton - lone bright star, but lets not get ahead of our selves, probably tops out as a #4 (like Ryan Ellis)
  •     Tryamkin - only time will tell, but a lot of 'mammoth' sized defenseman have failed.
  •     Sbisa - lol
  •     Biega - lol
  •     Pedan - lol

    
Vrbata and Hamhuis not traded for assets, Vrbata likely to walk, Hamhuis to decline to a #4-5 defenseman.

 

Lack of high end forward prospects.

  •     Baertschi looks good, but maybe a 25g/25a guy.
  •     Horvat looks to be a 50-55pt 2nd-3rd line tweener.
  •     Virtanen = Raffi Torres 2.0
  •     McCann has upside, but years away from breaking out. Maybe tops out as a 2C.
  •     Etem, Vey, Gaunce, Granlund, Cassells laughable.  
  •     Boeser wild card, see how he translate to pro...

   
Horrible contracts still with:

  •     Burrows
  •     Dorsett
  •     Sutter
  •     Higgins
  •     Sbisa
  •     Miller

 

Worst general manager in the league employed right now, who can't even sign a player properly.

 

Worst ownership to have for a 'rebuild', will likely push for playoffs next season...


Overall, only bright spots...

  • Hansen (2.5m player who can chip in 40-45pts, but he did play with the Sedins...)
  • Horvat (Probably will end up quite solid, but don't expect him to replace Henrik Sedin)
  • Baertschi (Looks to be a solid 2nd line winger in the future, but I don't see him doing it year after year, will occasionally have big flop seasons)
  • McCann (Has shown spurts of being a good player)
  • Hutton (Steal of a pick, but is no Duncan Keith in the backend, maybe a solid top 4 guy)

 

I expect 5 years of bottom 10 finishes for the Canucks.

 

 

               regards,  G.

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19 minutes ago, Patrick Kane said:

Probably no top 3 pick, missing out on Matthews, Laine and Puljujärvi

 

Sedins retiring soon, and have declined to 55-60pt players and lost durability.

 

Garbage goaltending depth, Demko looks okay, but goalies are hit or a miss, and hell he might not even sign.

 

Bottom 3 defense corpse in the NHL (active roster AND prospects)

  •     Edler - #4 on most good teams
  •     Tanev - #3-4 on most good teams
  •     Hutton - lone bright star, but lets not get ahead of our selves, probably tops out as a #4 (like Ryan Ellis)
  •     Tryamkin - only time will tell, but a lot of 'mammoth' sized defenseman have failed.
  •     Sbisa - lol
  •     Biega - lol
  •     Pedan - lol

    
Vrbata and Hamhuis not traded for assets, Vrbata likely to walk, Hamhuis to decline to a #4-5 defenseman.

 

Lack of high end forward prospects.

  •     Baertschi looks good, but maybe a 25g/25a guy.
  •     Horvat looks to be a 50-55pt 2nd-3rd line tweener.
  •     Virtanen = Raffi Torres 2.0
  •     McCann has upside, but years away from breaking out. Maybe tops out as a 2C.
  •     Etem, Vey, Gaunce, Granlund, Cassells laughable.  
  •     Boeser wild card, see how he translate to pro...

   
Horrible contracts still with:

  •     Burrows
  •     Dorsett
  •     Sutter
  •     Higgins
  •     Sbisa
  •     Miller

 

Worst general manager in the league employed right now, who can't even sign a player properly.

 

Worst ownership to have for a 'rebuild', will likely push for playoffs next season...


Overall, only bright spots...

  • Hansen (2.5m player who can chip in 40-45pts, but he did play with the Sedins...)
  • Horvat (Probably will end up quite solid, but don't expect him to replace Henrik Sedin)
  • Baertschi (Looks to be a solid 2nd line winger in the future, but I don't see him doing it year after year, will occasionally have big flop seasons)
  • McCann (Has shown spurts of being a good player)
  • Hutton (Steal of a pick, but is no Duncan Keith in the backend, maybe a solid top 4 guy)

 

I expect 5 years of bottom 10 finishes for the Canucks.

 

Are you kidding me?

 

Edler's a #2.

Tanev's a #2-#3.

Hutton is a #3.

Hamhuis is a bottom 4.

Tryamkin looks to become a top 4 guy.

Millerstrom has been brilliant for us, and Demko likes Vancouver - and he's good. You think Hobey Baker nominee is "okay"?

Sbisa's not on a terrible deal (maybe not a good one, but still)
50 pts is great for a 2nd line player.

Pedan is still a prospect

Gaunce has played all of 16-18 games

Granlund has hockey smarts

And Boeser's done better than Toews and perhaps Parise did in their rookie years and you call him a wild card?

 

Wut m8?

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19 minutes ago, The Sedge said:

Virtanen = Raffi Torres 2.0 after one suspension.  Thorough analysis.  Bravo.

What about when he lost Canada the world juniors through his inability to keep his head? 

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4 minutes ago, thejazz97 said:

Are you kidding me?

 

Edler's a #2.

Tanev's a #2-#3.

Hutton is a #3.

Hamhuis is a bottom 4.

Tryamkin looks to become a top 4 guy.

Millerstrom has been brilliant for us, and Demko likes Vancouver - and he's good. You think Hobey Baker nominee is "okay"?

Sbisa's not on a terrible deal (maybe not a good one, but still)
50 pts is great for a 2nd line player.

Pedan is still a prospect

Gaunce has played all of 16-18 games

Granlund has hockey smarts

And Boeser's done better than Toews and perhaps Parise did in their rookie years and you call him a wild card?

 

Wut m8?

1. In what league?

2. In what league?

3. In what league?

4. Okay

5. Time will tell...

6. Brilliant?

7. Uhhhh

8. Did I say its bad?

9. Okay

10. Okay

11. Okay

12. Uhhhh, because junior/college success = NHL success

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thejazz97

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Just now, Patrick Kane said:

1. In what league?

2. In what league?

3. In what league?

4. Okay

5. Time will tell...

6. Brilliant?

7. Uhhhh

8. Did I say its bad?

9. Okay

10. Okay

11. Okay

12. Uhhhh, because junior/college success = NHL success

1. NHL

2. NHL

3. NHL

6. Our defense sucks rn. Our goalies are wonderific

7. Some GMs congratulated JB on the Sbisa deal.

8. No, but you made it sound not good.

12. Look at BB's PCS. He's been a comparable to Okposo the whole way through HS and college.

 

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