Alexander Edler

[SedinMadness]

Lately in the season before Edlers' injury I really didn't think much of him. I underestimated his good qualities for the this team. At least when he was in the line up the canucks were winning. Now that he is out for so long what a different team this seems to be. Edlers' offense ability seem to lift the sedin twins to another level. Same when erhoff and salo where here, the twins benefited from a good d man. I wanted to say 

Thank you Alex Edler!. See you next year.  Irregardless the canucks need a true blue chip d man that can make first passes and qb the power play. Do you agree or disagree? cheers.

[Alflives]

6 minutes ago, SedinMadness said:

Lately in the season before Edlers' injury I really didn't think much of him. I underestimated his good qualities for the this team. At least when he was in the line up the canucks were winning. Now that he is out for so long what a different team this seems to be. Edlers' offense ability seem to lift the sedin twins to another level. Same when erhoff and salo where here, the twins benefited from a good d man. I wanted to say 

Thank you Alex Edler!. See you next year.  Irregardless the canucks need a true blue chip d man that can make first passes and qb the power play. Do you agree or disagree? cheers.

So you like Edler and what he provides, but you think we need to draft a top D still?  How do you like this?  We trade Edler for a top 15 pick (Detroit) and we take the best D available at that spot?  

[riffraff]

Deal him and/or Tanev.

[SedinMadness]

very interesting. I just wanted to extend Edler a little apreciation over all the negativity he has received... but the would be intriguing. 

[Alflives]

Just now, riffraff said:

Deal him and/or Tanev.

Tanev is worth more?  Realistically, could we get another top ten pick in this draft for Tanev?

[Green Building]

I've always been an Edler supporter. Yet I still find I've been patiently waiting for years to see his return to 2010/2011 form. It hasn't happened. I mean he isn't as bad as some people say. He is relatively consistent, just not as much as I thought he would be by now. 30 points or less doesn't really qualify as an offensive defenseman for me, and his defense isn't stalwart enough to be shutdown. He's all around decent; that's my fair assessment. If he stays, so be it. If JB can get Edler to waive I'd rather keep Hammer (if it comes down to one of the 2 - which it probably won't since they play opposite sides).

 

It honestly depends on the return, who we draft, and what other signings JB has in mind over the next 3 months, but I am all for moving him if we can get a great package. Maybe the market will be thin at the draft and we can get someone to overpay for him.

 

Maybe he won't waive, or won't be asked, and we'll see him next season.

[riffraff]

2 minutes ago, Alflives said:

Tanev is worth more?  Realistically, could we get another top ten pick in this draft for Tanev?

I would think we would have had a better chance of that at the deadline.

 

but maybe.

[Green Building]

8 minutes ago, Alflives said:

So you like Edler and what he provides, but you think we need to draft a top D still?  How do you like this?  We trade Edler for a top 15 pick (Detroit) and we take the best D available at that spot?  

Edler won't be around forever. By the time a newly drafted Dman hits his prime Edler will likely be beyond his current level of play. JB should do it if he feels he has an eye on a Dman with a high ceiling. Get Detroit to add if possible. 

[Alflives]

2 minutes ago, Green Building said:

Edler won't be around forever. By the time a newly drafted Dman hits his prime Edler will likely be beyond his current level of play. JB should do it if he feels he has an eye on a Dman with a high ceiling. Get Detroit to add if possible. 

I accept one of Edler Tanev should go, providing JB returns a good first round pick - and uses it on a D.  

[Green Building]

5 minutes ago, Alflives said:

I accept one of Edler Tanev should go, providing JB returns a good first round pick - and uses it on a D.  

I'll agree, but not to a trade just for the sake of making a trade. It has to make sense. There is no need to dump either of them. Keeping them both will create healthy competition, and leave some decent depth we sure as hell lacked this season, assuming Try and Pedan prove serviceable to useful next season.

[RetroCanuck]

Not understanding the trade Tanev hype, guy is only 26 with many more years to go. Edler is almost 30 and still has good value, but you can see him ageing and lack of play recently. Would find it hard to get a first for him but could probably get a good second and that could get you a decent defensive prospect. Or if you put Edler and a fourth/fifth pick you should be able to get a mid first.

[SaintPatrick33]

Edler is so overrated simply because people want to believe he will hit that 2011 type season.

 

Has NOT happened yet, and the guy plays good once every 10 games. So what if he has one breakout game a month? Not worth the money. He is soft and inconsistent. Also seemed to regress on D, never seen a Defenceman, considered a vet now, back up into his own zone so much! NO AGGRESSION!!!!

 

He is not even close to what Salo was to our PP, as evidenced by our crappy numbers the past 3 years with him on the point. Just because we currently do not have anyone better, doesn't mean we should keep him.

 

We are in a rebuild and him taking the place of say a potential hidden gem (ala Hutton) makes no sense. We already know what Edlers ceiling is, a decent number 2 guy. 

 

Trymak Tanev Hutton plus whatever we can get in FA (Yandle? we can always dream)

Biega for depth. We do not really need Edler. 

 

I am sure Edler would get us a first rounder, but he has a NTC so we will probably have no leverage in that deal. 

[DownUndaCanuck]

Most underrated Canuck in a long time. MVP of this team, you see what happens when he goes out with an injury.

 

The team coped alright without Sutter, Henrik, Hamhuis and a bunch of tertiary players. Heck even Ryan Miller was injured and we hovered around .500 hockey. But Alex Edler gets injured for the first time all season and we set records for how bad we played.

 

Trade away Edler and you get 82 games of this terrible defence. He is bar none this team's MVP and you're seeing why first hand right now. We simply do not have anyone who can play those hard 23-25 minutes a night of physical, defensive and offensive quality from the back-end. Say what you want about his occasional brain-fart but everyone has them - Seabrook and Keith have had them this year too that have cost them big games. Edler does FAR more good than bad for this team and now we get a nice objective way of seeing who the most valuable Canuck is, and it's Edler by a long shot. We simply cannot replace his injury.

[Alflives]

Just now, DownUndaCanuck said:

Most underrated Canuck in a long time. MVP of this team, you see what happens when he goes out with an injury.

 

The team coped alright without Sutter, Henrik, Hamhuis and a bunch of tertiary players. Heck even Ryan Miller was injured and we hovered around .500 hockey. But Alex Edler gets injured for the first time all season and we set records for how bad we played.

 

Trade away Edler and you get 82 games of this terrible defence. He is bar none this team's MVP and you're seeing why first hand right now. We simply do not have anyone who can play those hard 23-25 minutes a night of physical, defensive and offensive quality from the back-end. Say what you want about his occasional brain-fart but everyone has them - Seabrook and Keith have had them this year too that have cost them big games. Edler does FAR more good than bad for this team and now we get a nice objective way of seeing who the most valuable Canuck is, and it's Edler by a long shot. We simply cannot replace his injury.

Trade him though, and say hello to another top five pick in 2017!

[*Buzzsaw*]

Why trade Edler or Tanev just when we have just acquired the extra pieces we need for a solid back end?

 

These guys are still the 1/2 pair... with a reduced playing time, ie. splitting evenly the heavy duties with Hutton and Tryamkin.   Edler and Tanev would be perfect playing 16:00 a game.  Essentially our top 4 would share equal time.

 

Edler's size is important, when you get past Tryamkin, we don't have any.

 

5/6 pair is Hamhuis and Sbisa, or Hamhuis and the Draft choice if we pick up a D.  If we draft a D, Sbisa is #7.

 

That would be a solid defense core next year.

 

Bartkowski goes, Biega is the 7th man, (unless we draft a D, then he goes to Utica or is traded) Pedan goes back to Utica and can be brought up for injuries.  (if he doesn't get converted to a winger)

 

The following year, 2017-2018, Edler can perhaps be traded.

[Green Building]

6 minutes ago, DownUndaCanuck said:

Most underrated Canuck in a long time. MVP of this team, you see what happens when he goes out with an injury.

 

The team coped alright without Sutter, Henrik, Hamhuis and a bunch of tertiary players. Heck even Ryan Miller was injured and we hovered around .500 hockey. But Alex Edler gets injured for the first time all season and we set records for how bad we played.

 

Trade away Edler and you get 82 games of this terrible defence. He is bar none this team's MVP and you're seeing why first hand right now. We simply do not have anyone who can play those hard 23-25 minutes a night of physical, defensive and offensive quality from the back-end. Say what you want about his occasional brain-fart but everyone has them - Seabrook and Keith have had them this year too that have cost them big games. Edler does FAR more good than bad for this team and now we get a nice objective way of seeing who the most valuable Canuck is, and it's Edler by a long shot. We simply cannot replace his injury.

Like I said earlier, I'm an Edler supporter, but this post is delusional. The team felt it when Sbisa went down more than Edler. Why? 

 

8 minutes ago, SaintPatrick33 said:

 

He is soft... ! NO AGGRESSION!!!!

 

When he wanted to he could really lay people out in the open ice. I just don't know where that compete went. He doesn't use his size that effectively and often enough to be any kind of deterrent. I wonder if coaches of other teams try to avoid certain matchups when playing against him.

 

 

[-AJ-]

I kind of suspected that people would underestimate his missing presence on the team. As much as he's not a 40-50 point d-man anymore, he still brings a presence of experience and some decent offensive prowess. His defense is on and off, but when it's on, he's a valuable part of the team.

[niknuk85]

55 minutes ago, Green Building said:

I'll agree, but not to a trade just for the sake of making a trade. It has to make sense. There is no need to dump either of them. Keeping them both will create healthy competition, and leave some decent depth we sure as hell lacked this season, assuming Try and Pedan prove serviceable to useful next season.

 

[J-Dizzle]

CDC never ceases to amaze me.  We scream for quality defencemen while simulataneously running guys who would kill on the open market out of town. 

 

The grass is always greener....

[zapperman]

I have to admit, I do miss his entertaining brain farts, clunky/ slow skating, lack of intensity and his inability to hit somebody... Anybody out there. I'd even settle for a collision with his own teammate. Unfortunately I think we're stuck with him as I don't think he will waive. If he will, we definitely need to do it before his value plummets further.