RetroCanuck Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Ok, so these are hypothetical, but might be possible. Canadians who could be a playoff team next year with some vets. Sedins+Edler+Brisbois(Canucks withhold some Cap) for PK Subban+first+A grade prospect Gives Canadians a run at the Cup next year and Canucks youth. Hansen+Miller for a 1st pick and good prospect Canucks then sign some slightly younger guys such as Boedker and Stamkos, guys that aren't brand new but not old. Canucks also resign Hamhuis for hometown discount. (Hamhuis is a greater mentor then Edler) Let me know what you think, I know that the Sedins probably won't be traded this Summer but it would ramp up this rebuild. Better to trade Hansen now while he's at max value. Also trading miller now is smart considering how he performed last time he was traded at the deadline. If Sedins aren't traded, trade Hansen anyways and give Burrows back his spot with them, If it doesn't work he is still a good PK guy and mentor. Might have a better year and have some value at the deadline. Will there be any trades this summer? I will be surprised if there aren't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Wrong forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hortankin Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 4 minutes ago, coryberg said: Wrong forum Right forum. Wrong section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetroCanuck Posted April 12, 2016 Author Share Posted April 12, 2016 2 minutes ago, McHortanen said: Right forum. Wrong section. Ahh your right, oh well. let me know your thoughts anyways, I'm curious. Do you agree with these trades? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hortankin Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 20 minutes ago, RetroCanuck said: Ahh your right, oh well. let me know your thoughts anyways, I'm curious. Do you agree with these trades? Miller trade seems fair but there are no real suitors unless Jones craps the bed for SJ in the playoffs. No way I see us paying for Subban, we already have our own that could break through at any time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 26 minutes ago, RetroCanuck said: Ok, so these are hypothetical, but might be possible. Canadians who could be a playoff team next year with some vets. Sedins+Edler+Brisbois(Canucks withhold some Cap) for PK Subban+first+A grade prospect Gives Canadians a run at the Cup next year and Canucks youth. Hansen+Miller for a 1st pick and good prospect Canucks then sign some slightly younger guys such as Boedker and Stamkos, guys that aren't brand new but not old. Canucks also resign Hamhuis for hometown discount. (Hamhuis is a greater mentor then Edler) Let me know what you think, I know that the Sedins probably won't be traded this Summer but it would ramp up this rebuild. Better to trade Hansen now while he's at max value. Also trading miller now is smart considering how he performed last time he was traded at the deadline. If Sedins aren't traded, trade Hansen anyways and give Burrows back his spot with them, If it doesn't work he is still a good PK guy and mentor. Might have a better year and have some value at the deadline. Will there be any trades this summer? I will be surprised if there aren't The easy way to rebuild is to gut the Canucks and bring in players with no history here. It's also the long way. Habs are taking on 19M in salary and shedding only 9M. I imagine that makes your first trade a non-starter. Canucks are unlikely to be willing to give up 4 of their veteran leadership group. Giving up Edler (and others) for Subban does nothing for defensive depth. Goaltending with Miller and Markstrom is the strength of the club. They won't jeopardize that by trading Miller. Hansen has trade value but is a leader in his prime and at a bargain salary. He's an asset to keep. Stamkos wants to be the highest paid player in the NHL. Who needs that albatross? We just got rid of Luongo's sucky contract. I see cap trouble in the future with that as young players need bigger salaries. 10M+ is real hard to move. Burrows won't be back imo. He just doesn't perform any more. Bennings plan is not to trade anyways. Building through the draft and adding the odd free agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetroCanuck Posted April 12, 2016 Author Share Posted April 12, 2016 9 minutes ago, Crabcakes said: The easy way to rebuild is to gut the Canucks and bring in players with no history here. It's also the long way. Habs are taking on 19M in salary and shedding only 9M. I imagine that makes your first trade a non-starter. Canucks are unlikely to be willing to give up 4 of their veteran leadership group. Giving up Edler (and others) for Subban does nothing for defensive depth. Goaltending with Miller and Markstrom is the strength of the club. They won't jeopardize that by trading Miller. Hansen has trade value but is a leader in his prime and at a bargain salary. He's an asset to keep. Stamkos wants to be the highest paid player in the NHL. Who needs that albatross? We just got rid of Luongo's sucky contract. I see cap trouble in the future with that as young players need bigger salaries. 10M+ is real hard to move. Burrows won't be back imo. He just doesn't perform any more. Bennings plan is not to trade anyways. Building through the draft and adding the odd free agent. God, If your right we are going to turn into the Oilers. You seem to forget that we are in a rebuild. To do that you have to trade players with value or else your left with Burrows, Vrbata, Higgins, Prust. Though Id argue burrows still has some value. Trade while their good even if you have to retain salary. \ Oh and as for the first trade, if the canucks retain about %35 of salary it could work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckylager Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 56 minutes ago, RetroCanuck said: Ok, so these are hypothetical, but might be possible. Canadians who could be a playoff team next year with some vets. Sedins+Edler+Brisbois(Canucks withhold some Cap) for PK Subban+first+A grade prospect Gives Canadians a run at the Cup next year and Canucks youth. Bergavin is not retarded 56 minutes ago, RetroCanuck said: Hansen+Miller for a 1st pick and good prospect What? 56 minutes ago, RetroCanuck said: Canucks then sign some slightly younger guys such as Boedker and STAMKOS, guys that aren't brand new but not old. What? Stamkos? Dude... 56 minutes ago, RetroCanuck said: Sedins aren't traded I'm with ya there man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSakic Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 1 hour ago, RetroCanuck said: Ok, so these are hypothetical, but might be possible. Canadians who could be a playoff team next year with some vets. Sedins+Edler+Brisbois(Canucks withhold some Cap) for PK Subban+first+A grade prospect Gives Canadians a run at the Cup next year and Canucks youth. Hansen+Miller for a 1st pick and good prospect Canucks then sign some slightly younger guys such as Boedker and Stamkos, guys that aren't brand new but not old. Canucks also resign Hamhuis for hometown discount. (Hamhuis is a greater mentor then Edler) Let me know what you think, I know that the Sedins probably won't be traded this Summer but it would ramp up this rebuild. Better to trade Hansen now while he's at max value. Also trading miller now is smart considering how he performed last time he was traded at the deadline. If Sedins aren't traded, trade Hansen anyways and give Burrows back his spot with them, If it doesn't work he is still a good PK guy and mentor. Might have a better year and have some value at the deadline. Will there be any trades this summer? I will be surprised if there aren't Alright lets break this down; Trade #1; Sedins+Edler+Brisbois(Canucks withhold some Cap) for PK Subban+first+A grade prospect -I do not think Subban is formally on the trade block -I think a team like Edmonton can vastly out bid us -Why would Montreal do this? (Important question one must pose to one self before ever proposing a trade) -Canadiens get 2-35yrs olds going on 36 + Edler (top 4 D man) + C+-B level prospect for a franchise/top pairing D man + their 1st pick which will top 10 pick + A grade prospect -the stupidity behind this is astronomical, I see no reasoning why GM MB would EVER do this -you haven't factored in any salary cap implications for the canucks or canadiens before spewing this crap on the computer, just a terrible proposal -why do the canadiens want to get older? -why do the sedins waive for montreal? (as if vancouver's media isn't bad enough for them?) -how does this trade look in 4-5 years down the line when Subban is 30/31 in the prime of his career and the Sedins are retired and Edler is 33/34 Trade #2; Hansen+Miller for a 1st pick and good prospect -Question 1; How many teams can accommodate an influx of 8.5M to their salary cap without giving any back? -Question 2; How many teams are in the market for a #1-1B goalie? Off the top of my head (Flames, Canes maybe?, Jets?, Leafs?) -From the teams that have been mentioned how many will have top 5-10 picks? (strong possibility it might be all of them) -So in what world does Miller and Hansen warrant a top 5/top15 draft pick without us getting any salary back? (on top of that you want a 'good prospect' LOL) jesus christ.... -If you are going to retain salary remember a team can only have such commitments to three players at any given time (we already have Luongo's salary retained) All in all just a terrible proposals all around, next time I would recommend you think before spewing up stuff that pops in your head and seems like a good idea to post online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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