Bob Long Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 With Demko taking his time it makes me concerned that Vancouver isn't where he wants to end up. My question is, if Demko decides to go back to college, and then have the potential for a free agent frenzy for him, should we trade his rights now? Particularly if its part of a package to either move into a top 3 pick position (assuming things go with the probabilities and we get a 4-6 spot) or get another top 10 pick? Obviously Benning would have to have a read off the agent that Vancouver isn't where Demko wants to be. This is why I dislike drafting college guys, they can go UFA and we lose a draft pick for nothing. SUMMARY: Thanks to everyone who participated - the overall consensus seems to be its worth the risk to keep Demko even if he chooses to go back to college this year and isn't necessarily sending the most positive signals. I think I've been swayed to this camp. I don't love college signings, but this guy is worth the risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 It doesn't matter. It's worth holding on to him for the chance that he becomes something special and DOES end up wanting to sign here. He isn't worth a fart in the wind yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 why is this a big deal??? This should only be a big deal next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gstank29 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 1 minute ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Beat me to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 7 minutes ago, Bob Long said: With Demko taking his time it makes me concerned that Vancouver isn't where he wants to end up. My question is, if Demko decides to go back to college, and then have the potential for a free agent frenzy for him, should we trade his rights now? Particularly if its part of a package to either move into a top 3 pick position (assuming things go with the probabilities and we get a 4-6 spot) or get another top 10 pick? Obviously Benning would have to have a read off the agent that Vancouver isn't where Demko wants to be. This is why I dislike drafting college guys, they can go UFA and we lose a draft pick for nothing. Listen to Alf. DEMKO WILL SIGN SOON, AND WILL JOIN THE COMETS FOR THEIR PLAYOFFS, LEADING THEM TO THE CALDER CUP. Alf has spoken; bow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Barzal Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 I have full faith that McCann sweet talking him over twitter will get him to sign with us. GO MCCANN GO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted April 12, 2016 Author Share Posted April 12, 2016 7 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Cute. But no, I'm in the keep him camp, but... with all the complaining about 'asset management' lately, if Benning has a clear read that Demko isn't going to sign here, he is worth something in a trade. Think of the desperation in Edmonton or preferably out east somewhere, he might be worth some leverage there if its clear he doesn't want to be here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Goose Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Not much he can do. If he doesn't sign you think any other GM is going to risk their assets to go into the exact same situation? Nothing has happened yet but if the worse happens, I think Ryan Johansen said it best about that recent college player (can't remember his name) that didn't sign with CLB - "we didn't want him on our team anyways" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted April 12, 2016 Author Share Posted April 12, 2016 3 minutes ago, SILLY GOOSE said: Not much he can do. If he doesn't sign you think any other GM is going to risk their assets to go into the exact same situation? Nothing has happened yet but if the worse happens, I think Ryan Johansen said it best about that recent college player (can't remember his name) that didn't sign with CLB - "we didn't want him on our team anyways" Yes, I do think agents know who a guys preferred teams are and what teams would sign him. Boston e.g., might be where the kid wants to end up. What I'm trying to get a read on is, if we keep him, and the worst happens, how much blame will be assigned to JB under the 'poor asset management' banner. So far it seems like people want to keep him no matter what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fateless Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Honestly, its a little early to be panicking. There is over a year before there is concern about him not being a Canuck. You have to remember that college kids that snub their drafting team have to carry that stain on their reputation with them for their career. Many people look unfavorably towards kids that show no loyalty to the team that took a chance on their future. Demko is a smart kid and a great goalie and there is no reason why he wouldn't want to be in Vancouver. By the time Demko is ready to be an NHL starter, Markstrom will be in his early to mid-thirties and be traded or relegated to back-up. Demko is the goalie of the future for this team and he'd be a fool to throw away a long-term future in Vancouver where he has been promised a long career. Doesn't make sense for him not to sign and I'm sure he sees that. Perhaps he simply wants to finish his degree before joining the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Goose Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 4 minutes ago, Fateless said: Honestly, its a little early to be panicking. There is over a year before there is concern about him not being a Canuck. You have to remember that college kids that snub their drafting team have to carry that stain on their reputation with them for their career. Many people look unfavorably towards kids that show no loyalty to the team that took a chance on their future. Demko is a smart kid and a great goalie and there is no reason why he wouldn't want to be in Vancouver. By the time Demko is ready to be an NHL starter, Markstrom will be in his early to mid-thirties and be traded or relegated to back-up. Demko is the goalie of the future for this team and he'd be a fool to throw away a long-term future in Vancouver where he has been promised a long career. Doesn't make sense for him not to sign and I'm sure he sees that. Perhaps he simply wants to finish his degree before joining the team. I agree that there are people that value loyalty, but there are also people that look at pro hockey as a business/job like Jimmy Vesey and will use whatever opportunity they have to direct their career. I just hope Demko and Boesner are of the former type, not the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armada Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Trade him for 3rd round pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted April 12, 2016 Author Share Posted April 12, 2016 4 minutes ago, Armada said: Trade him for 3rd round pick? No the only thing I would trade him for is moving up to #1 in the draft as part of a package, with the caveat that the agent makes it clear Demko probably doesn't want to be here. It wouldn't be worth a year of trying to convince him to stay, imo if we moved up to the #1 spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appleboy Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 It is what it is. When you draft there is no guarantees. Some players never make it and some players just don't sign. Tryamkin is no different. He could have just stayed in the KHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spotted Zebra Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Just now, chilliwiggins said: Canucks went to go and deal with Demko but were unable to even meet with him..... RED FLAG. Is it in Demkos best interest to sign with Vancouver , I would think otherwise You've been reading the provies too much. They didn't want to bother him prior to him getting ready for the frozen four, then when he was eliminated, didn't want to jump on a sour kid. Understandably. They did the next best thing and went and had dinner with his parents and outlined their plans for him, then talked to his agent. Whats the problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted April 12, 2016 Author Share Posted April 12, 2016 1 hour ago, thejazz97 said: why is this a big deal??? This should only be a big deal next year. Next year his rights aren't worth anything. If he's moved this year, whoever gets him has a year to speak with him to get a pro deal done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spotted Zebra Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 1 minute ago, chilliwiggins said: Don't read the PROVIES. See a team in some significant distress, and the hockey universe is not blind to it. I'd love to hear what you had to say 2 days before Tryamkin signed. Hutton for that matter. One Desi is enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spotted Zebra Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Just now, chilliwiggins said: Nothing said of either. Both I have liked from the start nice pick by both gms Were you not around for the fear mongering of Hutton for three months of him not signing. Hey Jordan Subban as well for that Matter, and then Nikita Tryamkin after that. And what do they all have in common? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 6 minutes ago, Bob Long said: Next year his rights aren't worth anything. If he's moved this year, whoever gets him has a year to speak with him to get a pro deal done. So what? We didn't do this with Subban and everything turned out fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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