Discussion - UFA's in the '22-28' Age Range

[Lui's Knob]

Benning spoke in the season ending press conference of filling in the '22 - 28' age range. Looking at the UFA list, there's not a whole lot that will help the depth in Utica and here but let's discuss who's available and who can help

 

First Tier

 

Milan Lucic, 27 - I really think LA will sign him and deal one of Pearson/Dwight King to keep him but he fits the Benning mold

David Perron, 27- he'd fit as Vrbata 2.0 (and younger) but only on a short term deal

Jason Demers, 27 - he'd solidify the 5-8 D man spot in the lineup should Hamhuis/Bart/Weber all not return

Kyle Okposo, 27 - he'll get a very RICH contract and term so don't think he's coming here either

Jamie McGinn, 27 - well travelled but gritty forward the Canucks could use in the Top 9

Ryan White, 27 - bottom 6 depth (although doesn't the team have enough bottom 6 depth?)

Jordie Benn, 28 - bottom D man pairing (check out his man beard)

Anton Khudobin, 29* - only see this happening cause of the Benning connection and signing him to a 1 year incentive deal (bridge for Demko, ONLY if Miller is dumped)

 

 

Second Tier

 

Loui Ericksson, 29* - we'll put him in since it's a Benning target (rumored)

TJ Brennan, 26 - Utica D man vet/depth

Colton Scievour, 26 - 3/4th Line C (if Granlund/Vey are dumped)

Zach Redmond, 27 - bottom Dman pairing

Jeremy Welsh, 27 - for Utica depth only and familiar with Canucks (vet) 

Chris Stewart, 27 - could see him being signed as a Lucic consolation prize

 

 

Should they get a little more bold, the RFA list looks a bit more interesting for skill level players in the age range:

 

Nikita Kucherov, 22 - skilled top 6 winger (Tampa could get into cap trouble should they resign Stamkos)

Jaden Schwartz, 23 - skilled top 6 winger (St.Louis could make changes should they lose in Round 1)

Jason Zucker, 23 - top 9 forward (Minnesota is in cap trouble with Parise/Suter and young forwards looking for contracts?)

Tyson Barrie, 24 - Top 4 Dman (changes in Colorado this offseason?)

Erik Gudbranson, 24 - Florida isn't in cap space trouble but getting him would greatly solidify the top 4 and bring youth/size

Sami Vatanen, 24 - Anaheim could get themselves into cap trouble, he'd be a Top 4 minute eater

Hampus Lindholm, 21 - see Vatanen

Mike Hoffman, 26 - top 6 winger (add Stone in a blockbuster deal ...that guy plays with heart/passion)

 

 

Where they pick in the 1st round of the draft will play a huge role who they sign (if they get Matthews/Laine/Puljaarjvi I could see them sign a veteran or 2) but I estimate:

 

Mid Tier winger  - Ericksson looks to be the best fit for the Sedins (but ideally Lucic if he becomes available)

Mid Tier D man - Jordie Benn or Jason Demers

Utica signings (vets) - Welsh or Brennan type player

Exploration of a RFA offer sheet* - Kucherov (should the Canucks not get a top 3 pick) or Vatanen/Lindholm

Goalie* (only if Miller is traded) - Khudobin

 

 

[Angry Goose]

Trevor Lewis

[Ghostsof1915]

You put Jordie Benn on tier I, and Ericksson as tier II?

 

If you are looking at 22-28, why do you have Ericksson and Khudobin on the lists if they are both 29? 

 

And how many UFA's outside of college or cast offs from a hockey club will be at age 22-24?

 

 

[Lui's Knob]

7 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said:

You put Jordie Benn on tier I, and Ericksson as tier II?

 

If you are looking at 22-28, why do you have Ericksson and Khudobin on the lists if they are both 29? 

 

And how many UFA's outside of college or cast offs from a hockey club will be at age 22-24?

 

 

Ericksson is added only cause it's widely rumored they'll attempt to sign him, despite being outside the age range). Khudobin only if MIller doesn't sign (goalie market next year for backups are weak). The UFA for 22-24 age range is weak overall and I don't expect any more college signings for the Canucks (maybe Cagguila but he's rumored to Philly; there's a Finn there as well but don't see him coming to Vancouver either). Benn I think it's a solid bottom D pairing and put him as Tier 1.

[MeanSeanBean]

What about boedker? He's 26 and plays top 6. He seems perfect for us. 

[aGENT]

Outside the age range a bit but Yandle and Goligoski should also be listed IMO.

 

Barring larger moves, I'm crossing fingers for Okposo and Demers personally.

 

Boedker would be an alright consolation prize.

 

I like the idea of threatening an offer sheet on Gudbranson to see if we can't shake him (or Petrovic) lose via trade.

[Bissurnette]

Are any of the ages you listed correct?

 

You left out Ladd and Brouwer, and you put Eriksson as a tier II UFA... I wouldn't mind going after Brouwer and Gudbranson or Barrie (the latter 2 via trade). Stewart can be had for cheap-ish, so can Brouwer. If we get Brouwer then adding pure skill to the top 6 would be a good move, if we can't get either one of them I'm hoping they go after Ladd or Lucic (much preferably Ladd) for the top 6. 

[khay]

You forgot Stamkos -- 26 years. I think he belong above the first tier. Maybe put him in the "Zero Tier"?

 

[DownUndaCanuck]

We should be able to snag a DAL defender, they surely can't sign all of them

 

Throw big money at Okposo, he would make the Sedins stars again and score 30 easily. Of course, we're more likely to end up with a Boedker or Eirksson. 

 

I'd push hard for Demers or Benn but ideally Demers for the right side. Canadian boy, righty, prime age and very underated on that Dallas defence, and just 27 years old too.

 

4 years, 6-7M per. Throw big bucks at him because we have the big money, 6M should be plenty for him because he's not that flashy but that's what a guy like Hutton desperately needs.

 

Edler - Tanev

Hutton - Demers

Tryamkin - Sbisa

UFA

Subban

 

In the ideal world, we somehow make a Hansen + Sbisa + 2nd round pick trade for Hamonic and here's our defence:
 

Edler - Hamonic

Hutton - Tanev

Tryamkin - Demers

Stecher/Biega/Subban

[smokes]

Have to see where and who'd the Canucks draft first.

[Pears]

[Alflives]

5 hours ago, DownUndaCanuck said:

We should be able to snag a DAL defender, they surely can't sign all of them

 

Throw big money at Okposo, he would make the Sedins stars again and score 30 easily. Of course, we're more likely to end up with a Boedker or Eirksson. 

 

I'd push hard for Demers or Benn but ideally Demers for the right side. Canadian boy, righty, prime age and very underated on that Dallas defence, and just 27 years old too.

 

4 years, 6-7M per. Throw big bucks at him because we have the big money, 6M should be plenty for him because he's not that flashy but that's what a guy like Hutton desperately needs.

 

Edler - Tanev

Hutton - Demers

Tryamkin - Sbisa

UFA

Subban

 

In the ideal world, we somehow make a Hansen + Sbisa + 2nd round pick trade for Hamonic and here's our defence:
 

Edler - Hamonic

Hutton - Tanev

Tryamkin - Demers

Stecher/Biega/Subban

Isl's will expect Tanev for Hamonic.  

[87Crosby]

57 minutes ago, Alflives said:

Isl's will expect Tanev for Hamonic.  

Isles will expect more, a deal could be made around Edler+Prospect I believe. 

[Horvatnextcaptain]

Everything will depend on where the Canucks land on draft lottery and who they pick and also if Hamhuis returns. If he does I don't see where an additional defenceman fits, even though Benning said he would like to get a defenceman for the power play.  I can see them trying to pry Hamonic out of New York. As for forwards, again all depends who they pick, I can see Benning making a splash on Ericsson to play with Sedins and probably someone like Ladd or Okposo. They could even go after Versteeg and Lucic.  

[Alflives]

10 minutes ago, Horvatnextcaptain said:

Everything will depend on where the Canucks land on draft lottery and who they pick and also if Hamhuis returns. If he does I don't see where an additional defenceman fits, even though Benning said he would like to get a defenceman for the power play.  I can see them trying to pry Hamonic out of New York. As for forwards, again all depends who they pick, I can see Benning making a splash on Ericsson to play with Sedins and probably someone like Ladd or Okposo. They could even go after Versteeg and Lucic.  

STAMKOS or no one. 

[DownUndaCanuck]

Realistically I'd like us to get Eriksson (wish we could get Okposo but won't) + Demers + Redmond and really not have to trade for anyone.

 

If we draft Matthews, flip McCann for Theodore/Morrow/Pouliot/other young defenceman.

If we draft Laine trade Virtanen for one of those guys (most likely draft).

If we draft Chychrun, don't worry about it we've got our stud future D-man.

 

Sedin - Sedin - Eriksson

Baertschi - Sutter - Hansen

Laine - Horvat - Rodin (give the kid a chance, I think he'll do well with the big boys)

Gaunce - Granlund - McCann

Vey/Cassels

 

Edler - Tanev

Hutton - Demers

Tryamkin - Sbisa

Theodore

Subban

[DeltaSwede]

Considering that we need cap space in 2-3 years to re-sign our younger players, I don't think we have as much cap space available as many may think. We might have it now, but it will be important for us to have it in the future. If we can make some smarter cheap signings it will make more sense.

 

If T.J Brennan is available, he is a guy I would be hoping the Canucks are in on. Could be a money ball move. He's had some very impressive offensive numbers in the AHL. I don't expect him to cost too much, maybe Bartkowski money at most ($1.75 mil). Could offer more competition for spots. 

 

2013/14: 25 Goals, 47 Assists for 72 points in 76 games.
2015/16: 25 Goals, 43 Assists for 68 points in 69 games.

 

Other names I've noticed:
Matt Martin 

Victor Bartley

Jamie McBain

Kris Russell

Darren Helm

Kevan Miller

Roman Polak

Troy Brouwer

 

 

 

 

[ABNuck]

On 4/14/2016 at 0:04 PM, Lui's Knob said:

Mid Tier winger  - Ericksson looks to be the best fit for the Sedins (but ideally Lucic if he becomes available)

Mid Tier D man - Jordie Benn or Jason Demers

Utica signings (vets) - Welsh or Brennan type player

Exploration of a RFA offer sheet* - Kucherov (should the Canucks not get a top 3 pick) or Vatanen/Lindholm

Goalie* (only if Miller is traded) - Khudobin

 

 

1/ STOP trying to find a winger to play with the Sedins...let's try to build some depth FFS! We are sorely lacking a 2nd line, let's address THAT issue...not repeating mistakes by signing FA's and putting them on the first line carousel.

2/ We have enough 5-8 Dmen of our own for cheap, let's not add any more for expensive contracts...use the money more productivly. Target Yandle, Goligoski, Barrie

3/ TBL will re-sign Kucherov...100% guaranteed...now that Stammer is probably walking. The best place for our O/S (you can really only make 1 for players in the same category - no backup O/S's allowed) is Barrie.

4/ Best goalie option (still) for me is Andersen (straight up for Miller). Andersen re-signs for about 3.5mil over 3 years (we just saved 2.5mil).

[aGENT]

6 hours ago, DeltaSwede said:

Considering that we need cap space in 2-3 years to re-sign our younger players, I don't think we have as much cap space available as many may think. We might have it now, but it will be important for us to have it in the future.

This year we'll have about $12-$15m in space depending on moves.

 

Next year we have another about $13m coming off (though yes, we need to re-sign a few RFA's that will subtract a bit from that).

 

The year following we have almost $20m coming off (again, a small amount of which of which will need to go to RFA's etc).

 

Add on to this a rising cap, particularly with the additional revenue from the Las Vegas team and I think you're far, FAR to worried about our cap space. Moving forward, we're sitting awful pretty in that regard.

[Blue Jay 22]

3 hours ago, ABNuck said:

1/ STOP trying to find a winger to play with the Sedins...let's try to build some depth FFS! We are sorely lacking a 2nd line, let's address THAT issue...not repeating mistakes by signing FA's and putting them on the first line carousel.

2/ We have enough 5-8 Dmen of our own for cheap, let's not add any more for expensive contracts...use the money more productivly. Target Yandle, Goligoski, Barrie

3/ TBL will re-sign Kucherov...100% guaranteed...now that Stammer is probably walking. The best place for our O/S (you can really only make 1 for players in the same category - no backup O/S's allowed) is Barrie.

4/ Best goalie option (still) for me is Andersen (straight up for Miller). Andersen re-signs for about 3.5mil over 3 years (we just saved 2.5mil).

Ducks are definitely not trading Andersen straight up for Miller.