jmarvie Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 As many watch the playoffs we see many who are former Canucks. Such as Luongo/Bonino/Kesler/Bieksa/Santorelli/Mitchell and others who are no longer around but maybe should have stuck around such as Sestito/Bitz/Booth/Malholtra/Kassian/Lack Should we have let these players go, or have kept them and give them a few more years to retire with the Sedins and watch the others grow with some of the younger players ? Thoughts on who should have stayed and predictions on what our standings would have been if we kept such players... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilovewinona Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 If we'd kept Raymond, Rome and Ballard we would have won at least 8 Cups by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goalie13 Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 All that would have done was delay the rebuild. It was time to start over. If you hang on to all of those players then there are no roster spots for the younger players to move into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dral Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 We should have kept Luo if the media didn't jump all over him Kes if he didn't ask for a trade KB if his best friend didn't ask for a trade Mitchell if he didn't get a concussion Manny if he didn't lose an eye Kassian if he didn't drink Lack if we could have got a bigger return on Markstrom at the time... the rest I could live without Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 Santorelli..why pay and trade for 3rd line players when we had one for free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucklehead Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 39 minutes ago, ilovewinona said: If we'd kept Raymond, Rome and Ballard we would have won at least 8 Cups by now. Good one, thanks. Answer: this is a pointless question. The question is who do you want to see win a cup more, Lou or Juice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baer. Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 1 hour ago, jmarvie said: As many watch the playoffs we see many who are former Canucks. Such as Luongo/Bonino/Kesler/Bieksa/Santorelli/Mitchell and others who are no longer around but maybe should have stuck around such as Sestito/Bitz/Booth/Malholtra/Kassian/Lack Should we have let these players go, or have kept them and give them a few more years to retire with the Sedins and watch the others grow with some of the younger players ? Thoughts on who should have stayed and predictions on what our standings would have been if we kept such players... Yeah... It was so hard to see guys like Sestito and Bitz leave the team, such integral parts of the team Gimme a break buddy. Players come and go, that's hockey. Why would any of them care about retiring with the Sedins? The Sedins will be retired before most of these guys? Watch the young players grow? You mean the strangers they've never met that are a decade younger than them... Yeah I'm sure they are soooo attached. What kind of point are you trying to make with this thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-SN- Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 Please check next time to make sure your thread is in the right forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnucks Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 Lu was very typical Lu in the first Islander game... playoff specialist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoast Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 Players performance is affected as career injuries pile up,they can't play as well and start to get injured more often.Todays NHL has a habit of paying vets above what they are providing because the contracts increase over time.Players around 24-28 many times have peaked in performance.As a fan that number seems to be getting lower but maybe that's just my observation.And yes you have exceptions that play to 70 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekey Pete Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 2 hours ago, ilovewinona said: If we'd kept Raymond, Rome and Ballard we would have won at least 8 Cups by now. at the very least we could hustle some GM's by using two of those guys in a trade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
You Mad Bro? Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 Mooooooove ooooooooooonnn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 We could have drafted Kopitar! It's not about "we let them go" - it's about business as well as player requests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harvey Spector Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 1 hour ago, The Sedge said: at the very least we could hustle some GM's by using two of those guys in a trade Raymond, Ballard and a first should have landed us a franchise player. Stupid Gillis... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaBamba Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 3 hours ago, Dral said: We should have kept Luo if the media didn't jump all over him Kes if he didn't ask for a trade KB if his best friend didn't ask for a trade Mitchell if he didn't get a concussion Manny if he didn't lose an eye Kassian if he didn't drink Lack if we could have got a bigger return on Markstrom at the time... the rest I could live without Luo - can't handle the pressure of a Canadian franchise. Also lost his Job to Schnieder. Also didn't want to be here. I think the only thing that attracted him to Vancouver initially was the accessibility to black market whale blubber for his horrendous mop. Kesler - didn't want to be part of a rebuild. Graciously and diplomatically requested a trade by not making a Luongo type media circus. Used his NTC as he was untitled to. Because he isn't as likeable as Luongo he is booed every time he shows up even though he handled his situation like a professional. Mitchell - Bad timing with his head injury. He should have been and should still be our captain. Manny - Tragic Kassian - Is almost as overrated as Luongo. If he had a stronger Twitter presence I'm sure people would be protesting his lack of consideration for the ring of honour. Lack - was an average goalie with a below average maturity for his age that everyone found amusing except for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinatcc Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 4 hours ago, ilovewinona said: If we'd kept Raymond, Rome and Ballard we would have won at least 8 Cups by now. What about Booth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 4 hours ago, jmarvie said: As many watch the playoffs we see many who are former Canucks. Such as Luongo/Bonino/Kesler/Bieksa/Santorelli/Mitchell and others who are no longer around but maybe should have stuck around such as Sestito/Bitz/Booth/Malholtra/Kassian/Lack Should we have let these players go, or have kept them and give them a few more years to retire with the Sedins and watch the others grow with some of the younger players ? Thoughts on who should have stayed and predictions on what our standings would have been if we kept such players... All of the players above mentioned save for Luongo and Kesler are complementary players which, if all on the same team, get a top three draft. I would rather have a top three draft team on the rise than a top three draft team on the decline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HC20.0 Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 5 hours ago, jmarvie said: As many watch the playoffs we see many who are former Canucks. Such as Luongo/Bonino/Kesler/Bieksa/Santorelli/Mitchell and others who are no longer around but maybe should have stuck around such as Sestito/Bitz/Booth/Malholtra/Kassian/Lack Should we have let these players go, or have kept them and give them a few more years to retire with the Sedins and watch the others grow with some of the younger players ? Thoughts on who should have stayed and predictions on what our standings would have been if we kept such players... Luongo wanted out. We upgraded Bonino Kesler demanded out. Bieksa unfortunately is washed up. Santorelli was good, but we didn't need him. Mitchell was severly concussed when he left, and there was a chance he'd never play again. Sestito and Bitz were pretty bad and couldn't crack our roster. Booth was an epic fail. Sadly Manny's eye injury killed his career. Kassian couldn't get his crap together here. Lack was let go because Markstrom's ceiling is higher. I saw this exact same post on facebook, and it wasn't any better there... Even with these guys, we still would have missed the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 4 hours ago, Hairy Kneel said: Santorelli..why pay and trade for 3rd line players when we had one for free You mean Baer? Did we really trade for any one else that is a (ligit) third liner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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