Hortankin Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Looking 4-5 years ahead to when Hank and Danny are our 3rd line players playing at a discount what would our roster look like? XXXXX McCann Boeser Baertschi Horvat XXXXX Sedin Sedin Virtanen Gaunce Sutter Granlund Tryamkin XXXXX Hutton Tanev XXXXX Subban/Stecher Demko or Markstrom Ok, so we need a top 6 young talented LW and RW. Well there are 2 names that pop in mind that would solidify them positions, and their trade value will never be lower than it is right now. Those 2 players are Drouin and Yakupov. Im done explaining why we should target Drouin but Yakupov may be questioned with good reason I suppose. To me, Yakupov is highly under-rated and is stuck beneath other high talented forwards on the depth charts and never really had a shot to excel there. The few Oilers games I have watched he seems like a very talented player being deployed the wrong way. Anyway on to my proposals... So the above roster allows us with some trading chips: Edler Etem Vey Sbisa Pedan* Miller* Grenier Cassels Rodin* Burrows Higgins Hansen *safe this offseason TO EDM Sbisa Etem Brisebois 3rd TO VAN Yakupov 4th TO TBL Edler Hansen 2017 1st (top 5 protected) TO VAN Drouin If we win a top 3 then we either draft matthews or a finn. If we draft Matthews, we trade McCann for a defencman. Laine, we dont trade for Drouin. Pujujarvi, we dont trade for Yakupov. If we dont end up with a top 3 and instead get 4 or 5, I would consider calling the Senators and ask them what they will offer to move up 5 or 6 picks, then we take best Dman availiable (Chychrun, Sergachev, Joelevi, Bean, etc.) while also acquiring another asset like Cici maybe? Idk how good he is but I have heard good things. Anyway point is, is that this draft is out future, none of us will really be able to predict our future team until we know where we land in this draft. But Im still going to continue because I am not just wasting the 20 minutes I put into this whole thought Our future team would look like so: Drouin McCann/Matthews Boeser Baertschi Horvat Yakupov Sedin Sedin Virtanen Gaunce Sutter Granlund Rebuilding is kind of fun dont you think? ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tajun Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Okay, my turn to tear down a post. 1) Sbisa, Etem, Grenier, 4th does not get you Yakupov. Sbisa, Etem, Grenier, 2nd probably doesn't get Yakupov. 2) I doubt that offer gets Drouin either, but since Edler has a NTC he likely won't waive to Tampa it doesn't matter anyway. 3) You have Tryamkin on the top pairing, after 12 games in the NHL. This is far from the worst proposal I have seen. I like the idea of getting Yakupov, and although I am not all that high on Drouin, I can see the logic. Frankly though, I think we will have better luck getting another good draft pick next year and letting JB work his magic at the draft, making us a playoff team in 2018, than we will with quick fixes like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horvatnextcaptain Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Whether the Canucks pick within the top 3 or between 4 and 6, expect Benning looking for someone to play with the Sedins, most likely a winger like Benning said and top 4 defenceman. The Canucks are stuck with Edler so if there's going to be a trade for Hamonic or Drouin type players you are left with Tanev as an asset and there is no way in hell we trade Tanev. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gstank29 Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 I'm still trying to figure out how trading two top 4 defensemen, a good 3rd line player, and a 1st round pick for a bust and a player who hasn't proven anything yet speeds up the rebuild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintPatrick33 Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Wierd how 3 of the first five posts have horvat in their username I see McHortanen has beeen quite busy with proposals, workin hard on the phones with sources, gotta love the effort Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toews Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 38 minutes ago, Gstank29 said: I'm still trying to figure out how trading two top 4 defensemen, a good 3rd line player, and a 1st round pick for a bust and a player who hasn't proven anything yet speeds up the rebuild. Who is the second top 4 defenseman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z Hockey Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Why do people keep saying that!!?? If we draft Matthews we don't need to rush out and trade another center with Elite upside in McCann. Better to have crazy depth, what if Matthews busts out and then McCann is blossoming into a star and we don't have anyone to help Horvat create a 1-2 punch except maybe Ma.Granlund. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horvatnextcaptain Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 1 hour ago, SaintPatrick33 said: Wierd how 3 of the first five posts have horvat in their username I see McHortanen has beeen quite busy with proposals, workin hard on the phones with sources, gotta love the effort Quite the few Horvat fans I guess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintPatrick33 Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 1 hour ago, Horvatnextcaptain said: Quite the few Horvat fans I guess? He deserves this type of fandom.... heck of a kid, I cant wait till he hits his prime years, he will be as close to Linden as we can have. We just need our Bure now, hopefully in this years draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJDDawg Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 News Flash: NHL 16 is not Real Life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 I doubt the Oilers would take anything less than a 1st (maybe a 2nd) round plus player(s) for Yak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hortankin Posted April 19, 2016 Author Share Posted April 19, 2016 7 hours ago, Tajun said: Okay, my turn to tear down a post. 1) Sbisa, Etem, Grenier, 4th does not get you Yakupov. Sbisa, Etem, Grenier, 2nd probably doesn't get Yakupov. 2) I doubt that offer gets Drouin either, but since Edler has a NTC he likely won't waive to Tampa it doesn't matter anyway. 3) You have Tryamkin on the top pairing, after 12 games in the NHL. This is far from the worst proposal I have seen. I like the idea of getting Yakupov, and although I am not all that high on Drouin, I can see the logic. Frankly though, I think we will have better luck getting another good draft pick next year and letting JB work his magic at the draft, making us a playoff team in 2018, than we will with quick fixes like this. Tryamkin wont play any games for 5 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tajun Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 23 minutes ago, McHortanen said: Tryamkin wont play any games for 5 years? Tryamkin is looking like a good player, and I too hope that he blossoms into a star. Problem is, he is 21 and not a first line defenseman yet. Could he get there in the future? Absolutely, but he could also have hit his peak, and play good bottom-4 hockey for the next decade (which, honestly, still wouldn't be that bad. We got him for a third, he is already outperforming that). We have absolutely no idea, and hoping that he becomes a star doesn't necessarily make it so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice orca Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Lol there is a reason Yakupov is highly underrated. ..he is a bust. Edmonton insiders say he might garner a 4th round pick right now. How some people are still mesmerised by this guy is sad, the guy has the worst hockey is in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hortankin Posted April 19, 2016 Author Share Posted April 19, 2016 15 minutes ago, Tajun said: Tryamkin is looking like a good player, and I too hope that he blossoms into a star. Problem is, he is 21 and not a first line defenseman yet. Could he get there in the future? Absolutely, but he could also have hit his peak, and play good bottom-4 hockey for the next decade (which, honestly, still wouldn't be that bad. We got him for a third, he is already outperforming that). We have absolutely no idea, and hoping that he becomes a star doesn't necessarily make it so. I understand having lower expextations but at worst I see Tryamkin as a solid 2nd pairing guy, if we can find someone better to move him down a spot, great, but to me Tryam"king" is going to be our franchise Dman for many many years. Hopefully he comes along the way Im hoping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Where'd Luongo? Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 9 hours ago, Tajun said: Okay, my turn to tear down a post. 1) Sbisa, Etem, Grenier, 4th does not get you Yakupov. Sbisa, Etem, Grenier, 2nd probably doesn't get Yakupov. 2) I doubt that offer gets Drouin either, but since Edler has a NTC he likely won't waive to Tampa it doesn't matter anyway. 3) You have Tryamkin on the top pairing, after 12 games in the NHL. This is far from the worst proposal I have seen. I like the idea of getting Yakupov, and although I am not all that high on Drouin, I can see the logic. Frankly though, I think we will have better luck getting another good draft pick next year and letting JB work his magic at the draft, making us a playoff team in 2018, than we will with quick fixes like this. You want Yakupov but don't want Drouin? I am finished listening to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tajun Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 3 minutes ago, Where'd Luongo? said: You want Yakupov but don't want Drouin? I am finished listening to you. I want Yak because I think he could be got for reasonably cheap, whereas Drouin is prohibitively expensive. Obviously in terms of talent, Drouin is the obvious choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Where'd Luongo? Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Just now, Tajun said: I want Yak because I think he could be got for reasonably cheap, whereas Drouin is prohibitively expensive. Obviously in terms of talent, Drouin is the obvious choice. Ok thank you for this clarification. I agree with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokes Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 It would probably take Tryamkin or a Hutton plus a high draft pick to get Yak so no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweathog Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 If we fall to 4-6 I'd rather we trade up to the top 3 to aquire the elite talent we need. I hope we pass on Yak and Drouin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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