Nuxfanabroad Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 No question this guy's overpaid. So it's mostly a value question, combined with the issue of Van's intended direction. His AAV is 7.8 mill(brutal), & pts were in the mid-30's..bargain, huh? In fairness, last yr(2014-15) he sniped 42. Reading over on HFBoards, seems lots of Rag fans are eager to dump the higher-paid stiffs, in order to get younger. I've seen little of his play this yr, so would appreciate opinion, whether he's got anything left(or is this a 'Heatley-type', quick-fade?) So also wondering, can we get younger too, while also overpaying a vet top line for two more seasons? Try to keep amassing picks/prospects on the side. Is this a guy the twins would mesh well with? He's still only 31 yrs old. After 2 more seasons, we'd suddenly have 22 mill in cap available(twins & Nash, off the books). So you run with it(good or bad), then you've got a tonne of space, as our kids turn two seasons older. Last point is we would dump overpriced vets too, albeit some contracts ending sooner. This would be the Rags' incentive. EG: Higgins, Sbisa, Vey & prospect(perhaps Kenins?) Rags send: Nash & conditional pick(2017 3rd R). Cancel pick if Nash snipes 25 next yr, for example. After this, re-sign Hammy at a cheaper rate(perhaps 3 mill?) We could probably still afford another decent FA-signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 Value-Wise; Rangers Laugh at you, Hang up, and call back to make fun of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaerToBo Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 If they could retain 800k making him have a 7m cap id be alright with it. When nash is on his game he's dynamic. He's big strong and would probably net 60-70 points with the twins. Still his contract is horrible and he may be in decline. So i dont think he has much trade value. At most Raymond Ballard and a 1st Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted April 23, 2016 Author Share Posted April 23, 2016 5 minutes ago, Chris said: Value-Wise; Rangers Laugh at you, Hang up, and call back to make fun of you. Frankly my dear... Don't give a damn..it's Us who'd be doin them the favour. They've gotta burn it down(what we too realized, last 6 mos), just as we did. If they wanna shop around, good Luck dealing a 7.8 mill, 15 goal sniper. Look what Pitt's speedy youth did to the likes of their pricey vets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 5 minutes ago, Nuxfanabroad said: Frankly my dear... Don't give a damn..it's Us who'd be doin them the favour. They've gotta burn it down(what we too realized, last 6 mos), just as we did. If they wanna shop around, good Luck dealing a 7.8 mill, 15 goal sniper. Look what Pitt's speedy youth did to the likes of their pricey vets. You cared enough to make a post in a public forum. and no, that package would be doing no team in the league a favour. You have to offer something of value to get something of value. and Rick Nash - 36 point season or not, is worth ALOT more than a guy who has barely been able to play in the NHL this year, a prospect nobody expects much from, and a toss in prospect. but hey, why bother with any logic when making propsals right? just just throw our spare parts away and expect a kings ransom back like its NHL16. Higgins Sbisa Vey is just this years Ballard Raymond 1st; only worth even less. LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 7 minutes ago, Nuxfanabroad said: Frankly my dear... Don't give a damn..it's Us who'd be doin them the favour. They've gotta burn it down(what we too realized, last 6 mos), just as we did. If they wanna shop around, good Luck dealing a 7.8 mill, 15 goal sniper. Look what Pitt's speedy youth did to the likes of their pricey vets. Also You say Pitts youth destroyed their "pricey vets" and you want Vancouver to do exactly that(load up with pricey vets)? Smart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 Soooooo 2 over paid vets and Vey for one over paid vet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter Soldier Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 This is an awful idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z Hockey Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 No. We don't need Nash or his cap hit, even if they retained some cap it would still affect our Free Agent hunt. Our D is far more physical with Sbisa in the lineup, and I want to give Kenins another shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c00kies Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 If Nash was a free agent I'd be okay with going after him, but he just doesn't seem like somebody to trade for at this time. Trades should involve core pieces (or planned pieces) that aren't available in free agency, and frankly there are options that are similar to Nash in upcoming free agency. If we don't get those players, so be it, but Nash is not worth valuable assets at this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dral Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 If Rags fans are anything like CDC, they'll suggest offering something like Nash 40% retained, Halverson + 2nd for Higgins, Virtanen and a 1st... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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