[Proposal] Drouin to Vancouver

[ItsMillerTime]

I am not sure if the lightning would want to trade Drouin after a great playoff performance.

But if the Canucks drop down to 6th overall what is unlikely but can still happen. 

Say Matthews, The fins, Dubouis and Chychrun are taken. 

Would you trade straight up

Van: 6th overall pick to Tb for Jonathan Drouin.

 

Im not sure if the Canucks would want to do it just so they can draft a guy right from beginning. Or the Lightning want to keep Drouin because of how good he has played.

Interesting trade for both teams.

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[MeanSeanBean]

Hard pass. 

[Alflives]

23 minutes ago, ItsMillerTime said:

I am not sure if the lightning would want to trade Drouin after a great playoff performance.

But if the Canucks drop down to 6th overall what is unlikely but can still happen. 

Say Matthews, The fins, Dubouis and Chychrun are taken. 

Would you trade straight up

Van: 6th overall pick to Tb for Jonathan Drouin.

 

Im not sure if the Canucks would want to do it just so they can draft a guy right from beginning. Or the Lightning want to keep Drouin because of how good he has played.

Interesting trade for both teams.

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No.  TBay would have to add their first.  Do they have one to add?

[Blue Jay 22]

Not straight up but I would do Drouin and their 1st if the pick was not in the Top 3.

[SaintPatrick33]

Drouin is a superstar in the making....but then again would I turn down a chance for JB to draft another Boeser type player with a top 5 pick? Tough call, and pretty good proposal 

[WhoseTruckWasIt]

I don't think that Tampa would take it.

[19Nazzy91]

17 minutes ago, Blue Jay 22 said:

Not straight up but I would do Drouin and their 1st if the pick was not in the Top 3.

Lol a 6th overall pick for Drouin and wherever they land in the draft?

That's WAY undervaluing Drouin.

The deal would work as it stands with Benning probably throwing in a fifth for fun 

11 minutes ago, SaintPatrick33 said:

Drouin is a superstar in the making....but then again would I turn down a chance for JB to draft another Boeser type player with a top 5 pick? Tough call, and pretty good proposal 

Thing about picking in the top 5 is that there isn't a lot of skill involved... the top 5 are usually pretty set in stone (in this case Matthews, fins, Tkachuk, Dubois, Chrychun?) It's in the later picks steals like with Boeser are made.

[Jam126]

Unless they give their first as well I'd say no deal.

[oldnews]

Absolutely not.

[CaptKirk888]

Druin, Sustr AND tampa's 1st, then we have deal. Won't happen, tho would be sweet.

[Blue Jay 22]

42 minutes ago, 19Nazzy91 said:

Lol a 6th overall pick for Drouin and wherever they land in the draft?

That's WAY undervaluing Drouin.

The deal would work as it stands with Benning probably throwing in a fifth for fun 

Thing about picking in the top 5 is that there isn't a lot of skill involved... the top 5 are usually pretty set in stone (in this case Matthews, fins, Tkachuk, Dubois, Chrychun?) It's in the later picks steals like with Boeser are made.

How is that undervaluing Drouin? He was drafted 3rd overall, and has since then have his stock fluctuate between decreasing and increasing. He's had a good playoffs, but that doesn't take away all that has happened in the previous months. For a 5-10th overall pick, I think that's a pretty good get for Tampa.

 

Also, the Top 10 is all pretty good. 4-10 probably won't be as good as 1-3, but that's why we keep the pick if we land there.

[Aircool]

47 minutes ago, Blue Jay 22 said:

How is that undervaluing Drouin? He was drafted 3rd overall, and has since then have his stock fluctuate between decreasing and increasing. He's had a good playoffs, but that doesn't take away all that has happened in the previous months. For a 5-10th overall pick, I think that's a pretty good get for Tampa.

 

Also, the Top 10 is all pretty good. 4-10 probably won't be as good as 1-3, but that's why we keep the pick if we land there.

I think it's undervaluing him because he was drafted 3rd overall in a draft that was better than this one. I mean it was MacKinnon, Barkov, Drouin, Jones, Lindholm, Monahan. Those were the top 6 picks. This draft isn't that good if we are honest. You can't just compare numbers and say #3 overall with diminished value = #6 overall... in any two drafts... that #3 Overall could be Toews, and that #6 could be Jake Virtanen for example. Now Toews doesn't have diminished value (unless you think 10.5 million in cap hit is diminished value)... but the point still stands... EDIT: Not all #3 overalls are equal and not all #6 overalls are equal.

[19Nazzy91]

45 minutes ago, Blue Jay 22 said:

How is that undervaluing Drouin? He was drafted 3rd overall, and has since then have his stock fluctuate between decreasing and increasing. He's had a good playoffs, but that doesn't take away all that has happened in the previous months. For a 5-10th overall pick, I think that's a pretty good get for Tampa.

 

Also, the Top 10 is all pretty good. 4-10 probably won't be as good as 1-3, but that's why we keep the pick if we land there.

If you were Tampa, would you be willing to give a potential superstar and your first pick away (20-30th) for 5 or 6th overall?

I do get the point you're making, but it sounds like Tampa is still valuing Drouin highly and I just can't see them giving away their first pick. A later round? ...maybe. Hard to say.

[WHL rocks]

I don't think Drouin is getting traded anymore. He's a Lightning for years to come.

 

I think Stammer moves on as UFA and Drouin stays in Tampa.

[Blue Jay 22]

18 minutes ago, 19Nazzy91 said:

If you were Tampa, would you be willing to give a potential superstar and your first pick away (20-30th) for 5 or 6th overall?

I do get the point you're making, but it sounds like Tampa is still valuing Drouin highly and I just can't see them giving away their first pick. A later round? ...maybe. Hard to say.

I wouldn't trade Drouin if I was in Tampa's situation because of the eventual loss of Stamkos. 

 

That said, I do see the point you are making when you put it into those terms. Though I do believe Drouin's value has decreased from the 3rd overall position still.

[Ossi Vaananen]

5 hours ago, Blue Jay 22 said:

Not straight up but I would do Drouin and their 1st if the pick was not in the Top 3.

I tend to avoid the Pokemon around here, but you sir have it right. TB 1st and Drouin, then sure they can have the 6th pick. Top 5 is a different story, but since the Canucks would be debating a defenseman around 5/6, I say trade back, grab Drouin and still leave the draft with a very solid defenseman in Fabbro (if he falls a bit) or McAvoy. 

[falcon45ca]

Canucks absolutely have to make this trade, it's 100% inarguable. If Benning doesn't make this trade, somebody should prank call his office asking for James LEMMING, as he leads this team off a cliff.

 

Here, AT A BARE MINIMUM, is what the Canucks need to offer to land this key franchise player:

 

Canucks !st Round picks from 2016-2050

Bo Horvat

Jim Benning

Hank & Dank

Burr

The popcorn machine from the lobby of an old-timey cinema circa 1957

Jim Benning

Mike Gillis

Finn

& a 1 year of supply for the team's soda machine. It's ridiculous that millionaires need to pay $1 for their soda pop.

[Z Hockey]

Tampa was willing to trade Drouin straight up for Horvat, so think would you trade

Horvat for this 6th overall if Matthews, Finns, Dubois, Chychrun were taken?

I might, but I definitely would draft one of the high end forwards with the pick to

replace Horvat with in 

A.Nylander or M.Tkachuk. Both those guys will likely put up the same points as Horvat without the great 2-way play, face off ability, and grit. A.Nylander has big upside like 85 point upside but he's still unproven.

Other options at #6 would be the top D men, Juolevi, Fabbro, or Bean. 

 

If Sergachev was drafted with a pick for Horvat then that'd be big  IMO.

Any of the players I listed wouldn't be enough to replace Horvat.

It would cost 6th OA and a B prospect IMO, so that shows the value for Drouin then. 

We would be looking at deals like these....

 

To Van: Drouin

 

To TB: 6th OA pick, B. Gaunce

 

 

To Van: Drouin

 

To TB: 6th OA pick, Pedan

 

 

To Van: Drouin

 

To TB: 6th OA pick, J.Subban

 

 

 

To Van: Drouin

 

To TB: 6th OA pick, Brisebois

 

 

 

To Van: Drouin

 

To TB: 6th OA pick, Rodin

 

 

 

[Toews]

I would do this trade but I have always been high on Drouin. IMO the kind of the talent he brings is on par with a guy like a guy like Puljujarvi. Drouin's major issue with Tampa was the lack of chances he was getting in top 9. He would not have that problem in Vancouver. 

[brian42]

I'd rather do Virtanen for Drouin and draft Thachuk in that scenario.