Jump to content
The Official Site of the Vancouver Canucks
Enter Search Term. Use arrows to navigate between autocomplete results. If no results appear, use Enter to do a full site search.
Forum Closure ×
Canucks Community
Forum Closure

If we get 1st Pick, will Jim discuss his thoughts out loud well before June draft?

gameburn

By gameburn
in Canucks Talk

Recommended Posts

gameburn Canucks Regular

gameburn

Posted
Posted

GM Benning is surprisingly open about how he does his job.  If we get the first pick (unlikely, I know) will he be true to form and discuss in public where he is leaning, what he thinks of the top 3, ultimately who he thinks he will choose, who the organization likes, etc.  Will he mention scouts and others, Linden's thoughts, etc.? 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
D-Money Canucks All-Star

D-Money

Posted
Posted

Why would he?

 

You need to leave the door open to get an overpayment offer from Arizona. (You know, the team whose GM publicly stated they weren't going to make a big offer for him, and then was fired shortly thereafter?) If JB even makes a hint of a hint that they may not take Matthews, then he does nothing but weaken his position.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
VegasCanuck Canucks Star

VegasCanuck

Posted
Posted
2 hours ago, gameburn said:

GM Benning is surprisingly open about how he does his job.  If we get the first pick (unlikely, I know) will he be true to form and discuss in public where he is leaning, what he thinks of the top 3, ultimately who he thinks he will choose, who the organization likes, etc.  Will he mention scouts and others, Linden's thoughts, etc.? 

Doubt he will tip his hand. He will want to make sure that other GM's are kept guessing.

 

Considering how close the top 3 are, if we had the #1 overall, and Benning was more interested in Laine than Matthews, he might consider a flip to #2 if someone wanted to make it worth it to us, to secure Matthews with the #1 overall.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Crabcakes Canucks Franchise Player

Crabcakes

Posted
Posted
16 hours ago, The Weasel said:

From Benning's interview today, it's quite clear that they have Matthews at #1 and Laine at #2. Further, it would take a massive trade proposal for them to consider moving the pick, but they would be open to offers.

Yup, he said so already.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
kloubek Canucks First-Line

kloubek

Posted
Posted

Benning would be wise to keep quiet until tomorrow.  If we select first, look to see who selects second and see what their needs are.  If they need a winger, then he talks more about how great he thinks Laine is.  If they need a Center, then he talks more about how great Matthews is.

Then he connects with that GM and sees if they want to trade up. 

 

The fact is that we need both positions.  Center is the more important position, yet we already have a glut at that position for at least the next 2 years.  If McCann ever improves his faceoff game, and becomes an elite centerman (which I doubt) then the glut is even worse.

But bottom line: We could use either player.  And if we did draft #1 overall, I'd be perfectly ok with trading down to 2nd.  I wonder how much more that would garner from the #2 team - especially considering over the last couple of days several sources are saying that Laine might be better suited as first pick.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
TheGuardian_ Canucks Second-Line

TheGuardian_

Posted
Posted

What I would like to hear is "Nobody's leaving here with the Finn's except us".

 

Go for the "Full Monty", strip down if necessary, trade whoever for the two 18 yr old's. Jesse could play center if needed, they did it with Linden.

 

Trade any player(s) on the team that could be moved, trade salary, If it takes Horvat and Virtanen, then it does.

 

There are a few players/prospects I wouldn't like to see go but, to set up the team for a decade or more by getting these high level prospects and with the knowledge that next years draft is deep in defense men.

 

This team is at least three years, with very shrewd and bold trading and drafting, from being a contender.

 

Then there is the expansion draft, why not position the team now for that draft, these kids won't be exposed. Think of it this way, the Nucks are going to lose a top prospect or dman in that draft, so think ahead and trade that player now for a top player that doesn't need to be protected.

 

The best scenario is if the Nucks get the 1rst (duh!) and Arizona the second or third with Edmonton third. Canucks offer #1, McCann or Pedan and Hutton or Tanev to Arizona, Arizona offers OEL to Edmonton with ? for their #1, Arizona then moves Edmonton's #1 and their #1 and Domi to the Canucks.

 

Canucks - Laine - Jesse - Domi

Coyotes - Mathews - McCann/Pedan - Hutton/Tanev

Oilers - OEL - ?

 

Canucks end up with two instant lines, Domi - Horvat - Sven, Finns - Grandlund

Coyotes end up with the marketing asset, Mathews - Hutton/Tanev and maybe something out of Edmonton (the Yotes still have Strome)

Oilers end up with their big need, a top dman, - OEL and maybe a pick or ? (goalie?) from the Yotes.

 

Out of that the Nucks will still need another year unless there is UFA or RFA or a surprising trade accomplished.

Edmonton could be seen as the big winner getting OEL

Arizona is a winner as well, Mathews and a solid dman.

 

Welcome to Fantasy Island.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
GreyHatnDart Canucks Regular

GreyHatnDart

Posted
Posted
3 minutes ago, TheGuardian_ said:

What I would like to hear is "Nobody's leaving here with the Finn's except us".

 

Go for the "Full Monty", strip down if necessary, trade whoever for the two 18 yr old's. Jesse could play center if needed, they did it with Linden.

 

Trade any player(s) on the team that could be moved, trade salary, If it takes Horvat and Virtanen, then it does.

 

There are a few players/prospects I wouldn't like to see go but, to set up the team for a decade or more by getting these high level prospects and with the knowledge that next years draft is deep in defense men.

 

This team is at least three years, with very shrewd and bold trading and drafting, from being a contender.

 

Then there is the expansion draft, why not position the team now for that draft, these kids won't be exposed. Think of it this way, the Nucks are going to lose a top prospect or dman in that draft, so think ahead and trade that player now for a top player that doesn't need to be protected.

 

The best scenario is if the Nucks get the 1rst (duh!) and Arizona the second or third with Edmonton third. Canucks offer #1, McCann or Pedan and Hutton or Tanev to Arizona, Arizona offers OEL to Edmonton with ? for their #1, Arizona then moves Edmonton's #1 and their #1 and Domi to the Canucks.

 

Canucks - Laine - Jesse - Domi

Coyotes - Mathews - McCann/Pedan - Hutton/Tanev

Oilers - OEL - ?

 

Canucks end up with two instant lines, Domi - Horvat - Sven, Finns - Grandlund

Coyotes end up with the marketing asset, Mathews - Hutton/Tanev and maybe something out of Edmonton (they still have Strome)

Oilers end up with their big need, a top dman, - OEL and maybe a pick or ? (goalie?) from the Yotes.

 

Out of that the Nucks will still need another year unless there is UFA or RFA or a surprising trade accomplished.

Edmonton could be seen as the big winner getting OEL

Arizona is a winner as well, Mathews and a solid dman.

 

Welcome to Fantasy Island.

Had a similar trade scenario in my mind as well but you took it to another level. While it would certainly be quite the feat to land both Finns, we'd be losing 2 solid defenceman, which we need as much as Edmonton does. 

 

I would be willing to part with Edler+ and say our 4-5th overall for Edmontons 2-3 OA but I doubt they do that for him. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
spook007 Canucks Franchise Player

spook007

Posted
Posted
6 minutes ago, TheGuardian_ said:

What I would like to hear is "Nobody's leaving here with the Finn's except us".

 

Go for the "Full Monty", strip down if necessary, trade whoever for the two 18 yr old's. Jesse could play center if needed, they did it with Linden.

 

Trade any player(s) on the team that could be moved, trade salary, If it takes Horvat and Virtanen, then it does.

 

There are a few players/prospects I wouldn't like to see go but, to set up the team for a decade or more by getting these high level prospects and with the knowledge that next years draft is deep in defense men.

 

This team is at least three years, with very shrewd and bold trading and drafting, from being a contender.

 

Then there is the expansion draft, why not position the team now for that draft, these kids won't be exposed. Think of it this way, the Nucks are going to lose a top prospect or dman in that draft, so think ahead and trade that player now for a top player that doesn't need to be protected.

 

The best scenario is if the Nucks get the 1rst (duh!) and Arizona the second or third with Edmonton third. Canucks offer #1, McCann or Pedan and Hutton or Tanev to Arizona, Arizona offers OEL to Edmonton with ? for their #1, Arizona then moves Edmonton's #1 and their #1 and Domi to the Canucks.

 

Canucks - Laine - Jesse - Domi

Coyotes - Mathews - McCann/Pedan - Hutton/Tanev

Oilers - OEL - ?

 

Canucks end up with two instant lines, Domi - Horvat - Sven, Finns - Grandlund

Coyotes end up with the marketing asset, Mathews - Hutton/Tanev and maybe something out of Edmonton (they still have Strome)

Oilers end up with their big need, a top dman, - OEL and maybe a pick or ? (goalie?) from the Yotes.

 

Out of that the Nucks will still need another year unless there is UFA or RFA or a surprising trade accomplished.

Edmonton could be seen as the big winner getting OEL

Arizona is a winner as well, Mathews and a solid dman.

 

Welcome to Fantasy Island.

A nice thought... but Fantasy Island indeed... 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
TheGuardian_ Canucks Second-Line

TheGuardian_

Posted
Posted

Well the idea was one of the two, Hutton or Tanev. Edler can't be moved NTC, unless.....But I have faith that the D and goalie prospects will be okay, the smaller goalie equipment will mean more need for offense.

 

The Nucks could even float a goalie through the three way trade to Edmonton, the kid they just signed maybe? For an extra pick or even bigger deal.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Guest

Guest

Posted
Posted
On ‎4‎/‎28‎/‎2016 at 4:05 PM, Winter Soldier said:

I hope he hints at trading it just to watch Desiboy panic.

Love it!!!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Go to topic listing

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...