Canucks need to be in the draft lottery for at least 2 more years to be competitive

[Stanky Legs]

The cupboard is thin. There is great divide. If you look at the Utica roster, who do you think is the player most likely to have some significant effect when called up next year? Gaunce, Pedan, who else? I see no one. possibly, Subban, Cassell was an enourmous disappointment. We basically have no one. Then, there are the up an coming kids from juniors like Demko, Boeser, Stecher, Neill, Olson, Brisebois, Zukenov, etc. but they are a few more years away. Theese prospects mentioned will make up the core of Utica, in 2-3 years who will then eventiually, slowly become the Canucks core and support cast.

 

But if you look closer, they are not enough vs the strong teams of the other teams. Even in our division, the 2 Alberta loser teams have better prospects. 

 

So, in my opinion, aside from this year, we need to be in the Top 6 of the next 2 draft years. This will ensure that the probability of success in our rebuild.

 

There's an additional bonus to this, we get more draft parties, we get to play more with the draft pick generator thing.

 

I'm so excited right now for tonight's show and I want it to be the same in the next 2 years.After that, we go to the show and none of the 1st round-happy to be here BS. We're going all the way on the 4th year.

 

[Toews]

Another top 5 pick won't hurt but this team doesn't need two of them. At most the next year can be written off and I am guessing most people here won't like that either.

[Gstank29]

The cupboard is thin ummmmm

 

Virtanen

McCann

Boeser

Demko

Stetcher

2016 1st

Gaudette

Olson

Cassels

Subban

Gaunce

Trymakin

Pedan

 

All have a reasonable chance of playing in the NHL or have a long career. Definitely not thin, I added McCann and Virtanen because they might be in Utica next year

[Stanky Legs]

Just now, Toews said:

Another top 5 pick won't hurt but this team doesn't need two of them. At most the next year can written off and I am guessing most people here won't like that either.

I hope we get that stud D next year after Matthews today.

[Crackers]

I just don't understand why people are saying that Cassels is a "disappointment" or a "bust". He was a late 3rd round pick that greatly exceeded expectations in his draft+1 and draft+2 years. It's honestly an achievement that he made it to pro hockey at all. Also, one bad rookie year in the ahl, and you're writing him off? 

[Tajun]

6 minutes ago, Stanky Legs said:

The cupboard is thin. There is great divide. If you look at the Utica roster, who do you think is the player most likely to have some significant effect when called up next year? Gaunce, Pedan, who else? I see no one. possibly, Subban, Cassell was an enourmous disappointment. We basically have no one. Then, there are the up an coming kids from juniors like Demko, Boeser, Stecher, Neill, Olson, Brisebois, Zukenov, etc. but they are a few more years away. Theese prospects mentioned will make up the core of Utica, in 2-3 years who will then eventiually, slowly become the Canucks core and support cast.

 

But if you look closer, they are not enough vs the strong teams of the other teams. Even in our division, the 2 Alberta loser teams have better prospects. 

 

So, in my opinion, aside from this year, we need to be in the Top 6 of the next 2 draft years. This will ensure that the probability of success in our rebuild.

 

There's an additional bonus to this, we get more draft parties, we get to play more with the draft pick generator thing.

 

I'm so excited right now for tonight's show and I want it to be the same in the next 2 years.After that, we go to the show and none of the 1st round-happy to be here BS. We're going all the way on the 4th year.

 

Good god, I hope so. Edmonton hasn't been in the playoffs for a decade, it would be absolutely abhorrent if they didn't have better prospects than us. Calgary not as much, but still similar.

 

We had a great run, and we need to recharge. I'll be happy if we make the playoffs next year, and I'll be happy if we get a good pick too. Just please don't end up 17th in the league.

[WHL rocks]

Yes they do. I'd say 3 or 4 more. Not all top 5 picks tourn out to be top 6 forwards or top 4 Dmen. 

 

We have a long ways to go. We still need to a lot of players from top tier talent to depth forwards and Dmen. We are just in the beginning stages. 

 

Look at the latest re build thats looks like it's going to be successful. Florida. They have 4 top 3 picks in the past 5 years. 

 

Ekblad 1st

Barkov 2nd

Matheson 23rd

Huberdeau 3rd

Gudbranson 3rd

Kulikov 14th

 

 

[Stanky Legs]

2 minutes ago, Mrbigyellowbus said:

I just don't understand why people are saying that Cassels is a "disappointment" or a "bust". He was a late 3rd round pick that greatly exceeded expectations in his draft+1 and draft+2 years. It's honestly an achievement that he made it to pro hockey at all. Also, one bad rookie year in the ahl, and you're writing him off? 

2 bad years .

[Gstank29]

2 minutes ago, WHL rocks said:

Yes they do. I'd say 3 or 4 more. Not all top 5 picks tourn out to be top 6 forwards or top 4 Dmen. 

 

We have a long ways to go. We still need to a lot of players from top tier talent to depth forwards and Dmen. We are just in the beginning stages. 

 

Look at the latest re build thats looks like it's going to be successful. Florida. They have 4 top 3 picks in the past 5 years. 

 

Ekblad 1st

Barkov 2nd

Matheson 23rd

Huberdeau 3rd

Gudbranson 3rd

Kulikov 14th

 

 

Boeser, Virtanen, Our 2016 1st (assuming it's a forward)

Defensive depth needs work

[Spotted Zebra]

8 minutes ago, Gstank29 said:

The cupboard is thin ummmmm

 

Virtanen

McCann

Boeser

Demko

Stetcher

2016 1st

Gaudette

Olson

Cassels

Subban

Gaunce

Trymakin

Pedan

 

All have a reasonable chance of playing in the NHL or have a long career. Definitely not thin, I added McCann and Virtanen because they might be in Utica next year

That's not even including Hutton, Horvat and Baertschi add on Tryamkin

[Angry Goose]

What's more important is drafting and developing what the Canucks have already and into the future- not winning more draft lotteries.  

 

 

Brent Sutter said it best: "it seems like teams that are re-building are still re-building".  What you see on paper means jack squat unless you can properly develop and draft smart.  EDM is a perfect example of the opposite.  They should have been a much more competitive team years ago.  

 

[J-Dizzle]

I can't even right now.....

[Stanky Legs]

5 minutes ago, Gstank29 said:

The cupboard is thin ummmmm

 

Virtanen

McCann

Boeser

Demko

Stetcher

2016 1st

Gaudette

Olson

Cassels

Subban

Gaunce

Trymakin

Pedan

 

All have a reasonable chance of playing in the NHL or have a long career. Definitely not thin, I added McCann and Virtanen because they might be in Utica next year

Even with the NHLers on that list, I'm still not sold.

[WHL rocks]

10 minutes ago, Mrbigyellowbus said:

I just don't understand why people are saying that Cassels is a "disappointment" or a "bust". He was a late 3rd round pick that greatly exceeded expectations in his draft+1 and draft+2 years. It's honestly an achievement that he made it to pro hockey at all. Also, one bad rookie year in the ahl, and you're writing him off? 

I've been saying since the payoffs vs McDavid that Cassels would take years of AHL and hopefully one day he can be an AHL player. People on CDC just over valued Cassels, like they do with most Canucks prospects. 

 

People thought Cassel would win the Selke in the NHL cus he shut down McDavid. They wouldn't even calm down when I posted vids of the team defense McDavid faced, not just Cassel.

[ItsMillerTime]

Edmonton fans be like if we got like 3 more 1st overall picks we will be the best team in the world.

[WHL rocks]

2 minutes ago, Gstank29 said:

Boeser, Virtanen, Our 2016 1st (assuming it's a forward)

Defensive depth needs work

I don't understand this response. What about Boeser, Virtanen and 16 pick?  

[Stanky Legs]

Just now, ItsMillerTime said:

Edmonton fans be like if we got like 3 more 1st overall picks we will be the best team in the world.

Don't use Edmonton. They're the exception to the rule. Look at the Blues, Predators, Caps, Islanders.

[Patrick Jane]

No need to worry anyways..because we will be in the lottery for next 3 years

[JustABandwagoner]

3 minutes ago, WHL rocks said:

I've been saying for over a year that Cassels would take years of AHL and hopefully one day he can be an AHL player. People on CDC just over valued Cassels, like they do with most Canucks prospects. 

Cassels is either gonna be a bust or a 4th liner

[Toews]

The most disappointing part is that the Canucks lack tradable assets that can help bring in picks. Teams like the Sabres had assets that they could move to draft more often in the first 2 rounds. Most of our guys either had NTCs or were too past their prime to get any decent return.