Nuck1991 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Canucks need help is scoring goals. If Oilers go for a dman with their pick, that leaves us with Dubois or Tkachuk. Personally i like Dubois and would love to seee him in canucks jersey but considering that he wont help the scoring problem (not for the next year or 2), and after watching Drouin's performance in playoffs (WOW), this is the kind of deal that should help both teams. Now im not sure what the situation is in Tampa bay regarding Drouin ( is he happy / unhappy / still wants a trade) and there is also Stamkos saga, (does he resign, if he doesnt can tampa afford to trade Drouin) To Tampa - 5th overall in 2016 draft To Vancity - Drouin ( potential 1st line winger) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintPatrick33 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 I like when new posters use a different font in their posts. TBH, was kinda hard to read, I had to zoom in on my browser because I am old and wont live to see the Canucks lift the Stanley Cup. Oh and the proposal, we all know Stevie Y was grooming this kid to take over Stamkos position as the Lightings lead man. The kid can play, and if they make the conference finals with Drouin at a point per game, we can kiss him goodbye. Stevie Y is a genius, must have learned a lot off Scotty Bowman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Interesting. I'd do it if I was JB. I don't think Steve Y is going to trade Drouin anymore. He's back on the team, he's having a lot of success in the playoffs, scored a huge goal today and Tampa is in win now mode, not build for the future. Tampa would want a roster ready player IF they were to trade him. I don't think he's on the market anymore, I said before Steve Y didn't have real intention of ever trading him. That's why he asked for unrealistic return when Drouin was holding out, now with him ending the hold out and having success there is no need to trade him. I think Stamko will be gone as UFA. Too much risk to pay him that kind of money with the blood clot problem and Tampa can use that money to pay other players that need to be re signed very soon. Also Stamkos didn't have a real good playoff last year and the team is doing great without him. It will be hard to justify paying him 10 mil per year when others like Hedman are more important to the team and also need resigning soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Anyways don't trade prospects for players just before expansion draft. Collect picks & prospects, if possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deus.ex.makina Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 that's exactly what i posted on the drouin topic. imo it saves the lottery fiasco. we get immediate help, and we dont waste our pick on Dubust. like i said, in a perfect world, we would have traded down to AZ or something like that, grabbed an asset in the process, and trade that pick (let say 7ovr) to TB for Drouin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossi Vaananen Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 TB should add. I'd do: Van: Drouin TB 1st TB: 5th overall It's still a higher offer than they'd otherwise get. I like Drouin, and he's improved vastly. I still think he'll be moved from Tampa, and there will be suitors. Those willing to pay a top 10 pick or young player seem unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrecken Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 I have been hardballing with Hippy in the other thread over a 6th for him, now I have to decide if I would go down to a 5th? I think they would have to throw in something else. May be not their 1st rounder, thats prob a bit high, but a second for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 His play in the playoffs may just keep him in Tampa but it's certainly boosting his value. Considering he was once a top-5 pick this could work but I'm sure Tampa want to win now rather than later and they'd rather have developed players than picks who will take years to grow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87Crosby Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 I would move McCann+2nd and maybe a roster player and keep the 5th overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 At this point, I highly doubt that Tampa moves Drouin. Stamkos seems as good as gone, and I don't think it would be much of a stretch to assume that, with Drouin not only on the team, but playing a huge role in Tampa's playoff run, that he has a better feeling towards the franchise than he did (and vice versa). Still, Drouin-Horvat-Boeser is making me drool just a little bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ukcanuckzfan Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 I don't see Tampa doing this at all. The fans have fallen in love with Drouin, coaches coming out saying they never pulled the plug on him. Put it this way Jon Cooper has been having Drouin out there with average ice time of 17:39, that's 2 SECONDS less than Tyler Johnson. His hands are also magical and he has been piling up those assists. He's third in points in the playoffs for Tampa. Don't think there's a chance they trade him unless it's something insane coming back their way. Tampa needs young D-Men that's the priority, yes they can draft a good D-men at 5th, but imagine how much of a fool Yzerman would look if we he trades Drouin and loses Stamkos? No matter what anyone says Drouin is a 1st line calibre player, just watch his play. If you have any doubt of how much lover he is now getting in Tampa just read : http://www.tampabay.com/sports/hockey/lightning/jones-jonathan-drouin-goes-from-villain-to-lightning-savior/2275454 Now I might have some bias because I do watch every single Tampa game living in the UK, so the time zones more forgiving. But honestly why would Tampa do this seriously? Also if for any minute you think Tampa would consider taking McCann and a second. Just look down the C prospect pool for Tampa Bay. Mitchell Stephens and Brayden Point. As canucks fans we do tend to over-value our players/picks but sadly for us the rest of the league doesn't value our picks/players as highly as we do. Also when dealing with Yzerman a man who plays hard ball until he gets a deal he likes makes our chances of striking that great deal even lower. On a side note... If we had Drouin now that would be something, him feeding Boeser in with those magic hands, fans would get a show every night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsMillerTime Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 I did this exact trade but with the 6th overall pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Jane Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Drouin is going no were now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakrami Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 No way. Why would I trade for a problematic kid who plays soft instead of keeping a hard nosed Tkachuk with the same scoring potential? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks74sy Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 No way TB would trade a 3rd overall pick who has proven NHL and playoff experience for 5 overall pick??? Steve Y would want the 5th, a high prospect and maybe even another late 1st rounder or equivalent. Not worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedinery33 Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 On 5/1/2016 at 3:45 AM, Ossi Vaananen said: TB should add. I'd do: Van: Drouin TB 1st TB: 5th overall It's still a higher offer than they'd otherwise get. I like Drouin, and he's improved vastly. I still think he'll be moved from Tampa, and there will be suitors. Those willing to pay a top 10 pick or young player seem unlikely. This is what I would do, however I would offer McCann and our second before hand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxVerstappen33 Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 On 5/1/2016 at 7:03 AM, 87Crosby said: I would move McCann+2nd and maybe a roster player and keep the 5th overall. That would set us back 2 to 3 years. And then you still have a big question mark to show for that 5th pick. Droiun is less of a question mark. So is McCann. Considering how luck has treated us, the last thing we need is more question marks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxVerstappen33 Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 6 hours ago, canucks74sy said: No way TB would trade a 3rd overall pick who has proven NHL and playoff experience for 5 overall pick??? Steve Y would want the 5th, a high prospect and maybe even another late 1st rounder or equivalent. Not worth it. Drouin has also proven to pout for ice time and proven to have problems setting his alarm clock. He's had 2 team suspensions in less then a year. Anyone who knows Stevie Y knows that he is a harda$$. He never forgives or forgets. I think Droiun is still on the block. Would you still think the same if he didn't play in these playoffs ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxVerstappen33 Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 On 5/1/2016 at 7:41 AM, Ukcanuckzfan said: I don't see Tampa doing this at all. The fans have fallen in love with Drouin, coaches coming out saying they never pulled the plug on him. Put it this way Jon Cooper has been having Drouin out there with average ice time of 17:39, that's 2 SECONDS less than Tyler Johnson. His hands are also magical and he has been piling up those assists. He's third in points in the playoffs for Tampa. Don't think there's a chance they trade him unless it's something insane coming back their way. Tampa needs young D-Men that's the priority, yes they can draft a good D-men at 5th, but imagine how much of a fool Yzerman would look if we he trades Drouin and loses Stamkos? No matter what anyone says Drouin is a 1st line calibre player, just watch his play. If you have any doubt of how much lover he is now getting in Tampa just read : http://www.tampabay.com/sports/hockey/lightning/jones-jonathan-drouin-goes-from-villain-to-lightning-savior/2275454 Now I might have some bias because I do watch every single Tampa game living in the UK, so the time zones more forgiving. But honestly why would Tampa do this seriously? Also if for any minute you think Tampa would consider taking McCann and a second. Just look down the C prospect pool for Tampa Bay. Mitchell Stephens and Brayden Point. As canucks fans we do tend to over-value our players/picks but sadly for us the rest of the league doesn't value our picks/players as highly as we do. Also when dealing with Yzerman a man who plays hard ball until he gets a deal he likes makes our chances of striking that great deal even lower. On a side note... If we had Drouin now that would be something, him feeding Boeser in with those magic hands, fans would get a show every night. Meh ok. Onto Yakupov then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 hard right now to say what he is worth and what TBL want,but if he still wants out tampa better drop the price or they will not be able to trade him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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