ItsMillerTime Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Canucks had 2 1st rounders in 2 years in a row in 2013 and 2014. All those prospects have played a game in the NHL or more. This is what they need to do again. But how will we get anouther 1st rounder? Jannik Hansen. 20 goals is pretty good. So what team who just lost a good scorer and has some cap issues want this guy? Colorado. They lost Mikkel Boedker for a lot. They needed more scoring. So I say.... Vancouver trades Jannik Hansen for Colorado's 10th overall pick. Canucks then can draft a Dmen at 5th and a good Centre a 10th. There is some reasons why the Avalanche won't do this deal. Jannik Hansen may not have the Value of a 10th overall. So Canucks might need to chip in there 2nd round pick in there too. Colorado's prospect pool is a little weak after trading 2014 1st round draft pick Connor Bleakly. Hansen might not even want a trade and has that limited no trade clause. Canucks might be taking Pierre Luc Dubouis and might be able to take a dmen at 33rd. Hansen can be a good mentor for the Canucks younglings. But if we do get the 10th overall and choose Brown/Keller/Jost it would be a great centre core. Or it can be viseversa we take Dubouis and hope Chychrun falls down to 10. Or trade with Boston for their 14th pick or even Flyers. Read this whole thing before you comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87Crosby Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 maybe pull a deal with Montreal? They have a good goalie, number 1 defenseman and are lacking in the forward department. Hansen+2nd and maybe a prospect like Gaunce for pick 9? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 If Benning was offered that than he would take it and run. Even though Janny is a fast guy, great for twenty goals in his prime and has strong ability, he doesn't have the value of a top 10 pick. 30-45 probably but not earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottish⑦Canuck Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Hansen isn't worth a top 10 pick. I think we're talking a late 1st rounder at best, unless he's packaged with something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsMillerTime Posted May 1, 2016 Author Share Posted May 1, 2016 2 minutes ago, 87Crosby said: maybe pull a deal with Montreal? They have a good goalie, number 1 defenseman and are lacking in the forward department. Hansen+2nd and maybe a prospect like Gaunce for pick 9? True Montreal has a strong prospect pool. Also needs scoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 1 minute ago, 87Crosby said: maybe pull a deal with Montreal? They have a good goalie, number 1 defenseman and are lacking in the forward department. Hansen+2nd and maybe a prospect like Gaunce for pick 9? Maybe gaunce, second for montreal's first and a C prospect. Montreal needs forewards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toews Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 A top 10 pick has more value than that. Even Hansen + 33rd won't touch that. Most likely a team wanting Hansen would offer their 2nd and add a prospect to that rather than a trade a 1st in the top half of the first round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsMillerTime Posted May 1, 2016 Author Share Posted May 1, 2016 1 minute ago, Scottish⑦Canuck said: Hansen isn't worth a top 10 pick. I think we're talking a late 1st rounder at best, unless he's packaged with something else. 33rd overall pick and Hansen for 10th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toews Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 1 minute ago, ItsMillerTime said: 33rd overall pick and Hansen for 10th I would never do that trade from that team's perspective. Hansen's value is closer to #40 than #10 and I would offer a prospect + #40 rather than trade #10. If that is rejected by the Canucks then so be it. Plenty of fish in the sea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsMillerTime Posted May 1, 2016 Author Share Posted May 1, 2016 2 minutes ago, Toews said: I would never do that trade from that team's perspective. Hansen's value is closer to #40 than #10 and I would offer a prospect + #40 rather than trade #10. If that is rejected by the Canucks then so be it. Plenty of fish in the sea. Read the whole thing I wrote there is somethings I say about why they take it and why they don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toews Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 1 minute ago, ItsMillerTime said: Read the whole thing I wrote there is somethings I say about why they take it and why they don't. I did read the whole thing. It wasn't convincing. The last time teams traded top 10 draft picks once their position was known in the draft was Cory Schneider for #9 and Jordan Staal for #8 and Sutter. Hansen isn't close to the same level of player as the above examples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchaser101 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 I would sooner look at making a deal with Boston for their 14th & 20th picks plus a good prospect or one of their 2nd round picks. If Benning can get another McCann and a couple good defencemen with 4 picks in the top 44 that would really help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsMillerTime Posted May 1, 2016 Author Share Posted May 1, 2016 1 minute ago, Toews said: I did read the whole thing. It wasn't convincing. The last time teams traded top 10 draft picks once their position was known in the draft was Cory Schneider for #9 and Jordan Staal for #8 and Sutter. Hansen isn't close to the same level of player as the above examples. Staal is overrated he had like 10 more points better then Hansen on a stacked Penguins team. Hansen played with Sedins but Canucks had a crap team. Carolina needed to get goals out of their net so they got him. Colorado needs scoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsMillerTime Posted May 1, 2016 Author Share Posted May 1, 2016 1 minute ago, Winchaser101 said: I would sooner look at making a deal with Boston for their 14th & 20th picks plus a good prospect or one of their 2nd round picks. If Benning can get another McCann and a couple good defencemen with 4 picks in the top 44 that would really help. True boston might be the better team to trade with. With 2 playoff misses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchaser101 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Few #5 picks are traded so I think you can get a pretty good return and in this case the Canucks need more top 50 picks instead of just 1 high end, supposed can't miss. Bennings dealing with Boston seems a natural. Boston got three mid 1st round picks last year and need the shoot at a top end player for the future. Carolina also has 2 first round picks this year 13th and 23rd, so they would also be a team to look at if they were to include a top end prospect as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toews Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 15 minutes ago, ItsMillerTime said: Staal is overrated he had like 10 more points better then Hansen on a stacked Penguins team. Hansen played with Sedins but Canucks had a crap team. Carolina needed to get goals out of their net so they got him. Colorado needs scoring. Staal had won a Cup, was considered one of the top shutdown centers and was the brother of Carolina's franchise player. Hansen just had a career year playing beside two future HOFers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollumpus Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 21 minutes ago, Winchaser101 said: I would sooner look at making a deal with Boston for their 14th & 20th picks plus a good prospect or one of their 2nd round picks. If Benning can get another McCann and a couple good defencemen with 4 picks in the top 44 that would really help. Well, the thought of a Logan and Logan draft is tempting. regards, G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 40 minutes ago, Winchaser101 said: I would sooner look at making a deal with Boston for their 14th & 20th picks plus a good prospect or one of their 2nd round picks. If Benning can get another McCann and a couple good defencemen with 4 picks in the top 44 that would really help. I forgot they had those picks Boston is a team I'd be looking to deal with period for either one of them and looking at Fabbro. If Jost was still on the board at 14th I'd pull the trigger on almost anything reasonable to get both those picks to net Jost and Fabbro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canacks1970 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 18 minutes ago, ItsMillerTime said: Canucks had 2 1st rounders in 2 years in a row in 2013 and 2014. All those prospects have played a game in the NHL or more. This is what they need to do again. But how will we get anouther 1st rounder? Jannik Hansen. 20 goals is pretty good. So what team who just lost a good scorer and has some cap issues want this guy? Colorado. They lost Mikkel Boedker for a lot. They needed more scoring. So I say.... Vancouver trades Jannik Hansen for Colorado's 10th overall pick. Canucks then can draft a Dmen at 5th and a good Centre a 10th. There is some reasons why the Avalanche won't do this deal. Jannik Hansen may not have the Value of a 10th overall. So Canucks might need to chip in there 2nd round pick in there too. Colorado's prospect pool is a little weak after trading 2014 1st round draft pick Connor Bleakly. Hansen might not even want a trade and has that limited no trade clause. Canucks might be taking Pierre Luc Dubouis and might be able to take a dmen at 33rd. Hansen can be a good mentor for the Canucks younglings. But if we do get the 10th overall and choose Brown/Keller/Jost it would be a great centre core. Or it can be viseversa we take Dubouis and hope Chychrun falls down to 10. Read this whole thing before you comment. Its hard to say .. Do you remember how we got those extra picks in the first place? Vancouver had to give up a top young goaltender in which they groomed for 4 years in Schnieder in 2013.. For New Jersey it was worth giving up their pick knowing what they got in returned. Also to considered last year the Ducks had two first round picks. One from Ottawa at number 10 and their own at 24 . If Kesler wasn't happy here we probably wouldn't have that pick at 24 . Imo Hansen doesn't have the value of a Schnieder or a Kesler And most likely the other teams would probably ask for a Blue chip prospect in return like players in Horvat,Demko,Virtanen ,McCann, or a Boeser. Sorry not worth giving up in a rebuild. its like two steps forward one step back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Miller (retain 2 million per) plus Hansen would get us another top pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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