The Canadian Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 This is like my third or fourth thread in the proposal armchair section this week. I really love making trade ideas, and I want people more mature then me to tell me what wrong or right about these trades. I still am very young so do not judge me if my trade is bad. To BUF Markstrom To VAN Ristolainen or their 1st If garteig impresses at camp should we move Markstrom? Right now we need Miller to mentor, and we already have 3 future number 1 goalies, so moving marky would be the best option. Buffalo needs a number 1 goalie and robin lenher is not a very good starter. They already have some good defensemen such as bogosian gorges etc so they might trade ristolainen or their pick. I know Buffalo has a great rookie goalie, but Markstrom is more experienced because of Ryan Miller good mentoring. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Monty Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 Could go into a ton about what's wrong. Instead, I'll just say that the Sabres could have had Markstrom for free when he was waived. And if they want a goaltender, which they do, they can sign either Reimer or Ward in free agency. So that's where I'll stop. You're offering up a player the Sabres can address in free agency without giving up any assets, let alone their best defenseman or high draft pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 Value doesn't add up. Marky is not worth a high first round pick, and Ristolainen is an incredible young D, worth a kings randsom. It would also put to much pressure on Demko to fast, gotta give him time to develop organically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Jay 22 Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 You have got to be trolling... Edit: I've seen your other proposals. My advice to you: Before you make another trade proposal, sit back, look up some more hockey from around the league, and get to know players on other teams. It will definitely be a good education. Go to other team sites, look up Youtube highlights, watch old game highlights, do what your heart desires. Just take a break from the proposals because so far, they have all been pretty one sided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ro0 Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 1 minute ago, Monty said: Could go into a ton about what's wrong. Instead, I'll just say that the Sabres could have had Markstrom for free when he was waived. And if they want a goaltender, which they do, they can sign either Reimer or Ward in free agency. So that's where I'll stop. You're offering up a player the Sabres can address in free agency without giving up any assets, let alone their best defenseman or high draft pick. This and Lehner and Ullmark are no slouches if anything they need a vet to mentor. We still need Markstrom for the foreseeable future as I figure Demko is better suited in the Ahl for a season or two getting starters reps and eased into a 1A/1B situation for a season or more. Slotting him into a backup role on an nhl roster would be a developmental mistake imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 Markstrom is our future starting goalie, it doesn't make sense to trade him. He's awesome, and when they reduce the size of the goalie equipment, he'll thrive. He's one of the most athletic goalies in the league IMO. Demko and Garteig aren't ready for an NHL job yet. Miller only has next season and then he's gone. That's when Markstrom will be the starter and Demko will be the backup, I think. Markstrom and Demko could win the William Jennings trophy one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 1 hour ago, Monty said: Could go into a ton about what's wrong. Instead, I'll just say that the Sabres could have had Markstrom for free when he was waived. And if they want a goaltender, which they do, they can sign either Reimer or Ward in free agency. So that's where I'll stop. You're offering up a player the Sabres can address in free agency without giving up any assets, let alone their best defenseman or high draft pick. No they don't. Murray is the one who scouted Lehner at Ottawa. He traded a 1st rounder to get him less than a year ago. His Save % this past season was .924. You and the OP need to first know what you are talking about before you post. You even have more than the 100 requisite posts that you require. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 2 minutes ago, SabreFan1 said: No they don't. Murray is the one who scouted Lehner at Ottawa. He traded a 1st rounder to get him less than a year ago. His Save % this past season was .924. You and the OP need to first know what you are talking about before you post. You even have more than the 100 requisite posts that you require. Yeah, I suppose you're right. *leaves because I don't care enough to disagree* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 1 hour ago, The Canadian said: This is like my third or fourth thread in the proposal armchair section this week. I really love making trade ideas, and I want people more mature then me to tell me what wrong or right about these trades. I still am very young so do not judge me if my trade is bad. To BUF Markstrom To VAN Ristolainen or their 1st If garteig impresses at camp should we move Markstrom? Right now we need Miller to mentor, and we already have 3 future number 1 goalies, so moving marky would be the best option. Buffalo needs a number 1 goalie and robin lenher is not a very good starter. They already have some good defensemen such as bogosian gorges etc so they might trade ristolainen or their pick. I know Buffalo has a great rookie goalie, but Markstrom is more experienced because of Ryan Miller good mentoring. Thoughts? Please learn about the players you want to trade before you make proposals. This isn't an NHL 16 game. What in the he*l makes you think that Lehner isn't a good goalie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 1 minute ago, Monty said: Yeah, I suppose you're right. *leaves because I don't care enough to disagree* Goodbye and you could have tried to disagree all that you want to, but you'd be wrong. This is a ridiculous proposal and anybody that thinks that it's even in the ballpark of reality needs to back away from their video game console. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 5 minutes ago, SabreFan1 said: Goodbye and you could have tried to disagree all that you want to, but you'd be wrong. This is a ridiculous proposal and anybody that thinks that it's even in the ballpark of reality needs to back away from their video game console. Never said it was a good proposal. In fact, I said quite the opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 1 minute ago, Monty said: Never said it was a good proposal. In fact, I said quite the opposite. No you didn't, never said you did, but this is the part that I highlighted in your post. Quote And if they want a goaltender, which they do People continue to make ridiculous trade proposals and others comment on them and make false assumptions without knowing what they are talking about first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 Just now, SabreFan1 said: No you didn't, never said you did, but this is the part that I highlighted in your post. People continue to make ridiculous trade proposals and others comment on them and make false assumptions without knowing what they are talking about first. Sorry for thinking the Sabres need more consistent and proven goaltending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 8 minutes ago, Monty said: Sorry for thinking the Sabres need more consistent and proven goaltending. The Sabres goaltending situation is ideal as it is. A high percentage starter with a backup that posted a .920 save percentage last season. A .924 starter with a .920 backup. That's pretty consistent. Most teams would like that combo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 2 minutes ago, SabreFan1 said: The Sabres goaltending situation is ideal as it is. A high percentage starter with a backup that posted a .920 save percentage last season. A .924 starter with a .920 backup. That's pretty consistent. Most teams would like that combo. If you're happy with it and think it can be sustained, that's all that matters. EDIT: Back to the proposal. As I said earlier, it's terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 1 minute ago, Monty said: If you're happy with it and think it can be sustained, that's all that matters. I am and there's no reason to think that it can't be. Now if Johnson doesn't re-sign with the Sabres, then I'm not as happy as others by having Ullmark as a top flight backup. Ullmark is too inconsistent for my taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saucypass Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 Wow, if Ristolainen was that cheap the Sabres would be dumb to not hold onto more offers other than Markstrom. That's even after considering the Sabres are willing to move Ristolainen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ojibwa72 Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 All I'm going to say is the goalie issue should be looked at at the trade deadline not before this years playoffs are even over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 4 hours ago, Ojibwa72 said: All I'm going to say is the goalie issue should be looked at at the trade deadline not before this years playoffs are even over. If you're talking about the Canucks, there really isn't an issue yet. Miller splits time with Markstrom next year, Markstrom becomes the starter with Demko as his backup the year after that, then Demko takes over as starter the following year just as the rest of the Canuck's young guns are ready to compete. I have a lot of faith in Demko. I've been saying that ever since he was drafted. I was hoping that he would somehow drop to the Sabres in that draft but GMJB scooped him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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