1994_fan Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Listening to today's 1040 about JB's insinuation that he would approach EMD about their 4th OA pick, got me thinking. Tanev + 33OA to EDM for 4OA. I thought of this one too: Hansen + Gaunce + Higgins/Grenier to NJD for Larsson + 41OA thoughts? PS: Freeridebc you see not all proposals include McCaan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsMillerTime Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Gaunce doesn't have as much value as you think. Same as Tanev. Larsson is still a very good young right handed dman who has still potential to grow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 15 minutes ago, 1994_fan said: Listening to today's 1040 about JB's insinuation that he would approach EMD about their 4th OA pick, got me thinking. Tanev + 33OA to EDM for 4OA. I thought of this one too: Hansen + Gaunce + Higgins/Grenier to NJD for Larsson + 41OA thoughts? PS: Freeridebc you see not all proposals include McCaan I don't see us moving Tanev and our 2nd only to take two forwards at 4 and 5. Maybe we use a pick on a defenceman, but we'd still have a gap we'd need to cover, especially with Tanev leaving a hole on our right side. Larsson's too tough to get now. There was a small window where he had some back issues and wasn't performing great yet where a team might have poached him, but he's come into his own and it would take a much stronger package to get him. New Jersey would want a top young forward plus something extra for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kloubek Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 11 minutes ago, ItsMillerTime said: Gaunce doesn't have as much value as you think. Same as Tanev. Larsson is still a very good young right handed dman who has still potential to grow. Agree on Gaunce - he hasn't proven much yet and he doesn't appear to have any more than a 3rd line ceiling at best. I do, however, disagree on Tanev. Especially for the GMs we play regularly like Edmonton, they know exactly what Tanev is all about and I believe he would be highly coveted. He's a very, very good defensive defenceman. Sure, he doesn't put up many points, but he chips in here and there and almost always makes the right decision on the ice, and makes it without any trace of panic. He also makes his partner better, such as Edler. I think he is exactly the kind of player the Oilers require, actually. I don't think Tanev + 33OA would cut it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithers joe Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 24 minutes ago, 1994_fan said: Listening to today's 1040 about JB's insinuation that he would approach EMD about their 4th OA pick, got me thinking. Tanev + 33OA to EDM for 4OA. I thought of this one too: Hansen + Gaunce + Higgins/Grenier to NJD for Larsson + 41OA thoughts? PS: Freeridebc you see not all proposals include McCaan if you were edm or njd...would you make those trades? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goblix Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 I can't see Van trading up to 4th... Benning seems more of a pick a gem where he sits kind of GM. We are also not in a position to trade young assets for high-end picks. I see him trading down slightly to pick a player he likes while picking up a faller prospect ala McCann and Boeser. On the value I think Tanev is more important to the team than taking the chance that the 4th overall pick will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankieCorrado Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 8 minutes ago, smithers joe said: if you were edm or njd...would you make those trades? If I was Edmonton, yes I would, if I was NJD, no I would not. The first trade would work IMO but I would rather keep Tanev, unless it was for a top 3 pick, our D is bad enough as is, losing Tanev could be detrimental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostinCalgary Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 On 2016年5月6日 at 0:46 PM, 1994_fan said: Listening to today's 1040 about JB's insinuation that he would approach EMD about their 4th OA pick, got me thinking. Tanev + 33OA to EDM for 4OA. I thought of this one too: Hansen + Gaunce + Higgins/Grenier to NJD for Larsson + 41OA thoughts? PS: Freeridebc you see not all proposals include McCaan Higgins has negative value. Gauche gas almost nil value. Hansen is a great depth player but no one would say his value is equal to Larsson let alone throwing in a 2nd and taking back a bad contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChampStatus Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 On 5/6/2016 at 11:46 AM, 1994_fan said: Listening to today's 1040 about JB's insinuation that he would approach EMD about their 4th OA pick, got me thinking. Tanev + 33OA to EDM for 4OA. I thought of this one too: Hansen + Gaunce + Higgins/Grenier to NJD for Larsson + 41OA thoughts? PS: Freeridebc you see not all proposals include McCaan Larsson is NJD Best young prospect Would you accept Kris Versteeg + Nic Dowd + Jeff Schultz for Bo Horvat and a 2nd round pick. Kris Versteeg (similar output as Hansen but a little more tallented) + Nic Dowd (Ageing prospect similar to Gaunce) + Jeff Schultz (Over Age AHL player similar to Higgins). for our best young player and second round draft pick. So I say Yes if NJD calls and offers you larsson and 41 for hansen gaunce and higgins. Then sure trade Tanev but the oilers dont make that trade. Maybe get a 12-20th pick not 4th pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freeridebc Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 On 5/6/2016 at 11:46 AM, 1994_fan said: Listening to today's 1040 about JB's insinuation that he would approach EMD about their 4th OA pick, got me thinking. Tanev + 33OA to EDM for 4OA. I thought of this one too: Hansen + Gaunce + Higgins/Grenier to NJD for Larsson + 41OA thoughts? PS: Freeridebc you see not all proposals include McCaan I could see EDM taking that. I think they're more likely to package that pick up to NYI or Montreal though, to attempt @ Subban or Hamonic. We'd have to draft a dman with the 5th pick if that were the case. Sending Tkachuk to Calgary or Arizona. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleShield Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 I like the idea of trying to get Larsson though... Sbisa (shhhh) + Burrows (50% retained) + Torts pick for Larsson + Ottawa's 3rd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19Nazzy91 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 26 minutes ago, EagleShield said: I like the idea of trying to get Larsson though... Sbisa (shhhh) + Burrows (50% retained) + Torts pick for Larsson + Ottawa's 3rd What's NJD motivation here? Sbisa, an overpayed dman who really isn't that great... A veteran winger who no longer produces, a 2nd pick, and 3rd pick. I can't tell if this is a joke or not. Would you accept this trade if you were NJD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 On May 6, 2016 at 11:46 AM, 1994_fan said: Listening to today's 1040 about JB's insinuation that he would approach EMD about their 4th OA pick, got me thinking. Tanev + 33OA to EDM for 4OA. I thought of this one too: Hansen + Gaunce + Higgins/Grenier to NJD for Larsson + 41OA thoughts? PS: Freeridebc you see not all proposals include McCaan Hey! These are fair proposals. Both hurt us enough to make it painful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Yeah, no motivation at all to move Larsson for that. They downgrade on D, they get an aging forward who isn't that effective that they'd want him over younger players, and a 2nd over a 3rd isn't really enough of an upgrade to matter. They will not move Larsson unless you give them a serious offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Curse Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 On May 6, 2016 at 11:46 AM, 1994_fan said: Listening to today's 1040 about JB's insinuation that he would approach EMD about their 4th OA pick, got me thinking. Tanev + 33OA to EDM for 4OA. I thought of this one too: Hansen + Gaunce + Higgins/Grenier to NJD for Larsson + 41OA thoughts? PS: Freeridebc you see not all proposals include McCaan That's pretty much the exact trade Edmonton wants, they get a top 2 d man on a good cap hit without giving up any current core. That 4th pick plYs at least 1 more year in Jr. no wY that pick gets you Hamonic or Subban without adding a major core piece. If I am JB I don't do that deal- Tanev, Hutton, tryamkin are the future of our d corps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Curse Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Rumour on 1040 morning show was to EDM subban 9th OA to MTL Hall 4th OA- MTL loves Dubois I think great trade for both teams. Subban is not bringing it defensively for the Canadians and they could use hall and Dubois to infuse some excitement into that team. All they need to do is sign one of Yandle, demers, goglioski and they are good to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laddie Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Why would we trade Tanev? I realize he would be coveted by other teams in need of defensive help but we are also one of those teams and it makes no sense to trade away our top defensive minded player. I think if Benning is looking at making a trade for a Dman prospect or higher draft pick it could be Mccann on the block especially if we draft another centre at number 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 On May 6, 2016 at 11:46 AM, 1994_fan said: Listening to today's 1040 about JB's insinuation that he would approach EMD about their 4th OA pick, got me thinking. Tanev + 33OA to EDM for 4OA. I thought of this one too: Hansen + Gaunce + Higgins/Grenier to NJD for Larsson + 41OA thoughts? PS: Freeridebc you see not all proposals include McCaan I wonder if we'd have a better chance of moving Edler to Montreal ? I know he's got the NTC but he may be ready to move on, and we'd pick up a great D prospect at that pick. Montreal has the "window" open right now so Edler would be good fit there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Montreal needs a legit top 6 scoring winger. A top 4 defenceman an isn't a priority. Right now they have Subban, Markov, Petry, Emelin and Beaulieu that can all log effective top 4 minutes. They also have a number of NHL ready prospects like Pateryn. I don't see a fit for Edler at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poet Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 I don't see the need to move up to the 4th pick, tbh. I'd rather use the 33rd pick plus to move up into the first round. Would the coyotes take the 33rd, Hansen and ? for their other first round pick? Then we could take Fabbro there...which is a better D prospect than we are going to get at 33rd overall... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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