Arrow 1983 Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 The is not me armchair gming but if the higher ups want to move it feel free. I am one of those Canuck fans who believe we need a top end right handed dman. JB and TL have both said we don't have what it takes to make a hockey trade. They have also said that there is no top tier dman in this draft and not one that is right handed. But then I thought maybe we just got the biggest gift from the draft ever. The asset that we haven't really had to make a hockey trade. Truth is most Canuck fans wanted a top 3 pick now that we have the 5th pick my question is do we want it. Yes we will most likely get a very good prospect but even JB and TL have both said the prospect we will get at that position would not be NHL ready next season. Before I go any further please note that I am only paraphrasing JB and TL if I am wrong about any thing I said they said I apologize in advance. This is not a topic of me criticizing management. I like our current management. Now back to what I was writing. This is not my proposal but an example of a defenceman I think could help the team. What if we could Pry a guy like Justin Faulk from Carolina away from them. The reason I think a guy like him would be a good fit for the Canucks; he is 24 years old fits with are current age group of players, a proven goal scorer, under contract for 4 years and good cap hit and most important Carolina has two other right handed dman in their system ( Brett Pesce and Ryan Murphy). My thought is after the Eric Staal trade Carolina could well be into a full rebuild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedintwinpowersactivate Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 We need more players that can score. If they are D men... even better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 A top pairing defenceman is more valuable than a first line forward. It is hard to acquire a top-two defenceman via trade, as you need to give up some solid assets as well. Teams around the league are trying to get younger, so along with the fifth pick, teams would be interested in a player like Horvat, McCann, Virtanen, etc. I personally would keep the fifth overall pick that the Canucks hold, and draft the best player available. Then, look to draft a defenceman in the later rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaBamba Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 Like going from 3 to 5th didn't piss everyone off enough. Now this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrow 1983 Posted May 11, 2016 Author Share Posted May 11, 2016 1 minute ago, LaBamba said: Like going from 3 to 5th didn't piss everyone off enough. Now this. I do not get it way would this piss you off. question do you get pissed off easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top_Shelf Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 9 hours ago, Arrow 1983 said: The is not me armchair gming but if the higher ups want to move it feel free. I am one of those Canuck fans who believe we need a top end right handed dman. JB and TL have both said we don't have what it takes to make a hockey trade. They have also said that there is no top tier dman in this draft and not one that is right handed. But then I thought maybe we just got the biggest gift from the draft ever. The asset that we haven't really had to make a hockey trade. Truth is most Canuck fans wanted a top 3 pick now that we have the 5th pick my question is do we want it. Yes we will most likely get a very good prospect but even JB and TL have both said the prospect we will get at that position would not be NHL ready next season. I dunno about you but I want the 5th OAP pick and select either Tkachuk or Dubois. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrow 1983 Posted May 11, 2016 Author Share Posted May 11, 2016 4 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: A top pairing defenceman is more valuable than a first line forward. It is hard to acquire a top-two defenceman via trade, as you need to give up some solid assets as well. Teams around the league are trying to get younger, so along with the fifth pick, teams would be interested in a player like Horvat, McCann, Virtanen, etc. I personally would keep the fifth overall pick that the Canucks hold, and draft the best player available. Then, look to draft a defenceman in the later rounds. I agree the 5th pick for a top tier dman is not going to happen I was not saying that. What I am saying is it gets the Canucks closer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 I agree with Vintage - the 5th overall alone will not get you a top end RHD. And the additional pieces it would take would not be worth it in this stage for the franchise. Keep the 5th overall, and if you must trade it - do so to move down a spot or two, in which case you could take the best D in the draft and potentially add a late 1st for moving down slightly (Calgary may be interested - they don't really need to add to their blueline, but could use a potential 1LW like Tkachuk - a lot - to throw on a line with Monahan and Gaudreau down the line). My personal best case would be to add Chychrun/Juolevi in the 6 spot and get the pick Calgary acquired in the Russell deal (if that conditional Dallas 1st winds up in Calgary / or equivalent). That late 1st and the 33rd would be a pair of nice additions - perhaps another D/pmd and a forward. Otherwise pick at 5. Getting that Dallas 1st and re-signing Hammer would be a sweet turn of events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top_Shelf Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 9 hours ago, Arrow 1983 said: I agree the 5th pick for a top tier dman is not going to happen I was not saying that. What I am saying is it gets the Canucks closer. Closer to where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrow 1983 Posted May 11, 2016 Author Share Posted May 11, 2016 Just now, Top_Shelf said: Closer to where? We need the high end talent through the draft. closer to a hockey trade one that makes sense. Not one where some one thinks we can trade are junk for Justin Faulk for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top_Shelf Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 1 hour ago, Arrow 1983 said: closer to a hockey trade one that makes sense. Not one where some one thinks we can trade are junk for Justin Faulk for example. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewGM Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 We need to draft Chychrun if edmonton doesnt take him Hes ready to play allready , big strong defensemen with tons of upside, from a hockey family.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrow 1983 Posted May 11, 2016 Author Share Posted May 11, 2016 2 minutes ago, TheNewGM said: We need to draft Chychrun if edmonton doesnt take him Hes ready to play allready , big strong defensemen with tons of upside, from a hockey family.. I like the kid to I have seen him play problem I have with him for the Canucks he shoots left. He really is a young man in a big mans body and he skates good for a big guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrow 1983 Posted May 11, 2016 Author Share Posted May 11, 2016 You guys can one day Quote me on this if I'm wrong and rub it in my face the scouts have it way wrong on Jakob Chychrun. He will be the best player to come out of this draft. I suspect that the only reason the experts have him lower is that he had fewer goals this season. But he did have more points. He reminds me of a Drew Doughty type player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 Yes, I would like a defenseman, then a rookie as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaBamba Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 15 minutes ago, Arrow 1983 said: I do not get it way would this piss you off. question do you get pissed off easily. Because a top 5 pick is the reward you get for sucking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dura_mater Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 1 hour ago, Arrow 1983 said: You guys can one day Quote me on this if I'm wrong and rub it in my face the scouts have it way wrong on Jakob Chychrun. He will be the best player to come out of this draft. I suspect that the only reason the experts have him lower is that he had fewer goals this season. But he did have more points. He reminds me of a Drew Doughty type player. Maybe but I have a feeling that title will go to Patrik Laine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honky Cat Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 I'm perfectly happy with the BPA.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 Trade Tanev+ for the Oilers 4th. Draft Tkachuk or Dubois and Chychrun. Sign a veteran D-man to play with Edler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goat James Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 THAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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