Bob Long Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 If you missed it, here's link to Willies interview on 1040 today: http://www.tsn.ca/radio/vancouver-1040-i-1410/desjardins-it-s-tough-having-develop-players-and-win-1.491355 Not a lot of feather on the chicken, mostly saying that Jake and McCann might spend some time down in Utica next season. What he did say that interested me was him talking about the NHL "not being a development league" and how tough it is to develop and win at the same time. Not exactly a resounding approval of Benning's vision for the team. If we're not going to be developing young talent for the next few seasons I'm not sure what Willie thinks his job is? Did anyone else have this sense as well that Willie seemed a bit lost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Mac Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Sounds like this will be his last season unless he makes the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bur14Kes17 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 McCann needs to spend time in the AHL. It's a waste to use him as a 4th line center, he needs lots of ice time and to be used in all offensive scenarios. Where Jake ends up is really up to him although I have a feeling he sticks in the NHL. Like most Canuck fans though, I'm tired of "Winning" being the focus. Let's develop these kids properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 1 minute ago, Bur14Kes17 said: McCann needs to spend time in the AHL. It's a waste to use him as a 4th line center, he needs lots of ice time and to be used in all offensive scenarios. Where Jake ends up is really up to him although I have a feeling he sticks in the NHL. Like most Canuck fans though, I'm tired of "Winning" being the focus. Let's develop these kids properly. As a fan, I want the team to win. However, winning just enough to fall out of a top 5 pick is STUPID. With that I certainly agree. WD is the perfect coach for us right now. I think he gets extended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 10 minutes ago, Bob Long said: If you missed it, here's link to Willies interview on 1040 today: http://www.tsn.ca/radio/vancouver-1040-i-1410/desjardins-it-s-tough-having-develop-players-and-win-1.491355 Not a lot of feather on the chicken, mostly saying that Jake and McCann might spend some time down in Utica next season. What he did say that interested me was him talking about the NHL "not being a development league" and how tough it is to develop and win at the same time. Not exactly a resounding approval of Benning's vision for the team. If we're not going to be developing young talent for the next few seasons I'm not sure what Willie thinks his job is? Did anyone else have this sense as well that Willie seemed a bit lost? If the NHL isn't a development league, then why is Willie coaching in it? That's a pretty strange statement coming from a guy who isn't exactly coaching lights out. And Willie is coming into his third year behind the bench, where he made a plethora of questionable coaching decisions. It may not be easy to develop players and win simultaneously, but it's even harder when the coach seems lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowardrobertford Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 WD is the coach, and he sees Jake and Jared more than JB for him to say that the NHL is not a development league, which I agree, and in this case maybe JBs vision has to adjust. If AHL is a tougher league, less time less space, should it make the transition to NHL easier if a player had played some AHL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b3. Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Just a normal WD interview, he never really gives you much, and "ummms" a lot. Hindsight is 20/20, JV and JM weren't ready for the show this year. They'll be in Utica to start next season, which won't do them any harm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bissurnette Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 This thought is ridiculous. That's how your young players get better, you have to develop them. Even if they spend years in the AHL when they come into the NHL they still need time to develop and get accustomed to the league. There's always going to be a disposable vet on a team somewhere that will do the job better than the young guy, but you have to give the young guy the chance to improve because he might surpass the vet's level of play. That's why WD was brought in, maybe somewhere along the line WD forgot that, but he's not here with the expectation to bring Vancouver a cup, he's here with the expectation to develop the young players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCNeil Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Depressing and boring interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Just now, BCNeil said: Depressing and boring interview. The Leafs (I hate the Leafs!) have Babcock for their coach. We have this guy. My God! Then add the Laughs (Boy do I hate them) have Lamarillo as their GM. Okay, now i'm getting depressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaMash Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Our coach has about as much personality as a plate of breadcrumbs. I miss AV laughing at Wellwood or telling us Krejiceks injury was 'bad fish'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 The Province blog has a post on this as well: http://blogs.theprovince.com/2016/05/17/winning-or-developing-which-should-the-canucks-pick-for-2016-17/ And here's the quote from TSNRadio: https://mobile.twitter.com/TSN1040/status/732642062613532672?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw WD: Right now, our young guys have to be in a spot where they've gotta help us win. So our goal is clear - we're focussed on winning 11:40 AM - 17 May 2016 Not sure I'd expect Willie to be saying much different at this time. Especially given the mandate from management and ownership. It's pretty obvious that we're rebuilding and that we will be bringing young players into the lineup. In that respect, next season will probably be more about "development" than "winning" even if the coach isn't willing to come out and say it. But he's right that the youngsters need to be ready to help the team compete or they shouldn't be taking up roster spots (and would be better served by playing in Utica or junior/college/Europe until they've developed). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmylu1 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Remember when Dan Bylsma was on the table... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted May 17, 2016 Author Share Posted May 17, 2016 14 minutes ago, Cowardrobertford said: WD is the coach, and he sees Jake and Jared more than JB for him to say that the NHL is not a development league, which I agree, and in this case maybe JBs vision has to adjust. If AHL is a tougher league, less time less space, should it make the transition to NHL easier if a player had played some AHL Sure but when your coach has different ideas than Linden isn't that a problem? Maybe its just Willie's style but this didn't give me a lot of confidence for next season. I'm on record as not being a fan of WDs style or ability frankly, he's a marginal coach imo, but it really sounded to me like he was off script a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJDDawg Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 I had a couple of views about the interview. Willie sounded like a coach who's trying to save his job but it could also be interpreted as being secure in his job and on the same page with management. He & Trev may just be referring to developing the kids in a proper environment as opposed to sacrificing development for winning by sending Virt and McCann to the minors while the team does everything it can to win now. One can argue that sending both down is the right thing to do and in doing so, if the team can add a piece or two (YP LaPlante, free agent...etc) to the lineup that had such a good start last season, then they can accomplish both winning AND development. Anyways, nothing really new said other than the kids may in fact both be in Utica to start the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 I think that's BS when coaches say the NHL isn't a development league. Of course it is. What does he think players are going to come to him from the AHL without any flaws to their game? Good luck with that. Every young player needs continued development in the NHL. Their game will never be a finished product at age 21, 22, or 23. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 6 minutes ago, MJDDawg said: I had a couple of views about the interview. Willie sounded like a coach who's trying to save his job but it could also be interpreted as being secure in his job and on the same page with management. He & Trev may just be referring to developing the kids in a proper environment as opposed to sacrificing development for winning by sending Virt and McCann to the minors while the team does everything it can to win now. One can argue that sending both down is the right thing to do and in doing so, if the team can add a piece or two (YP LaPlante, free agent...etc) to the lineup that had such a good start last season, then they can accomplish both winning AND development. Anyways, nothing really new said other than the kids may in fact both be in Utica to start the year. I agree with your post as a whole? But I highly doubt signing YP LaPlante has anything to do with pressure to win now, or shield McCann / Virtanen so they can spend a necessary amount of time in the minors. LaPlante is about being that guy IN the minors... Making Utica more a more uncomfortable harder place to play for a visiting team. Then if he can develop at that level, maybe we'll see him in the NHL at 23 or 24? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Barzal Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 I sympathize with Willie. He's a rookie coach been given a flop of a hand and told to win with it. Not win for the future but win NOW. And when you have buffoons forcing cards like Virtanen and McCann into your already full deck there's no wonder he's coming out with statements like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizmo2337 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 At the beginning of the year, the message was that JV and JM made the NHL partly because the team wanted to be more in control of their development. They thought the environment in the NHL would be better for them as opposed to junior. This is contradictory, backtracking a bit. You can't then turn around and say the NHL is not a development league...weird. Maybe just a way to hint to JM and JV that they will likely be in Utica next year and brought up and as needed. It won't be easy for them to swallow starting in the AHL this year. However, big ice time minutes down there would be better than sitting on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowardrobertford Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 8 minutes ago, Bob Long said: Sure but when your coach has different ideas than Linden isn't that a problem? Maybe its just Willie's style but this didn't give me a lot of confidence for next season. I'm on record as not being a fan of WDs style or ability frankly, he's a marginal coach imo, but it really sounded to me like he was off script a bit. Forget linden's idea or WDs style. trying to develop 19yr olds who aren't even good enough for the NHL, while trying to make the playoffs or be competitive is some thing our out team could not do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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