86Viking Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Yes Edler has a NTC, ye he was asked YEARS ago to waive it and he said " You Don't sign a NTC to then waive it immediately" Loosely quoted. Moving Edler could stock our team and allows us to retain Hamhuis a capable top 4 veteran mentoring D. Also would allow us to target a ufa D if Benning decided to: Demers, Yandle, Russell, Golo etc etc. Insert Dallas Stars- 3 pending ufa top 4 D, likely cant keep more than 1 or 2. Edler would be a nice fit with their team imo. Nichushkin is only 21, has great size and potential. If he is available in a trade we should be very interested. Lets say we make this trade: Edler- top 4 pairing D signed Vey- Depth C Higgins(expiring contract) veteran depth for Nichushkin- young big bodied winger with good upside Eakin- Versatile 2 way F, Pk, 2nd unit PP, winger or C A very solid checking line of Eakin Sutter Hansen would be great to have. Eakin is young, can be a wing or C. Yes his new deal is 3.8m but look what we gave Sutter, and Eakin is basically a similar player. We all know Benning likes these 200ft guys also. Eakin is a hound on the puck, good PKer and versatile as a winger or C. Sedins could have a young big bodied winger in Nichushkin. Or Nuke could play with Baer and Bo and have Rodin/Virtanen/Hansen or a FA signing with twins. By moving Edler our forward depth with this years 5th overall could be this: LW- Dubois/tkachuk and Baertschi RW- Nichushkin, Virtanen Boeser C- Horvat McCann Not a bad group of young F players most have potential to be top 6 nhl players in their prime or solid top 9. So with Edler gone and signing Hamhuis our D group next year with no other moves or FA signings looks like this: Hamhuis Tanev Hutton Tryamkin/FA signing Sbisa Tryamkin/Larsen Pedan Biega Yes not the greatest D core, but we are not contenders, we also have cap space to go after a FA D or make a trade for an RFA or young nhl D. Sedin Sedin Nichushkin Eakin Sutter Hansen Baertschi Horvat Rodin Burrows Granlund Dorsett Etem To start in Utica: McCann, Virtanen, Gaunce We also could make another move or two with our team, but moving Edler for a return like I have suggested could set the Canucks up very well going forward. When Edler's deal is completed the twins could be retired and our young core will just be hitting their stride hopefully. With Nichushkin and Eakin being a part of that. WIth our cap space this July and moving Edler very likely we could be adding a top 6 forward and or a top 4 D. But I wont write that in internet stone in because I unfortunately can't predict the future. So while my lineup does look underwhelming, it could look quite different if we got a decent FA Forward & D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Yep. Too bad we can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsMillerTime Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Only in NHL 16 you can move him. Also he isn't that bad he is better then Demers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bur14Kes17 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Dallas would have to be stupid to make that trade. Vey and Higgins are at this point are recycling bin players. We'd have to pay Dallas to take them. We could get one of Nichuskin or Eakin for Edler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 If your going to trade your most valuable trade assets. It better fill an area of need. Nichuskin isn't that area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted May 22, 2016 Author Share Posted May 22, 2016 4 minutes ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: If your going to trade your most valuable trade assets. It better fill an area of need. Nichuskin isn't that area we dont need a big bodied scoring winger? I must watch a different Canuck team than you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted May 22, 2016 Author Share Posted May 22, 2016 31 minutes ago, thejazz97 said: Yep. Too bad we can't. ok then...guess we have only moved a player with a NTC every off season since Benning took over no? Garrison then Bieksa...Edler could very likely be next in line to get asked to waive But hey live on what was said 4 years ago when he was asked to waive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orcasgonewild Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 I like the way u think. I think we should try for nichuskin. He clearly doesn't fit in with Dallas, and JB has shown tons of interest in him. I say trade edler, sbisa and our 2nd or 3rd for nichuskin and Julius Honka. We clear salary cap and potentially get a future 1st-2nd line rw and a future 1-2 Defenceman. Plus with the money off the books we can sign some solid ufa's. And Dallas gets the defence they have been lacking. Now they have a strong defensive group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 How does Nic not fit Dallas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 There are far simpler ways to fix the Canucks problems than by moving Edler. Why make 3 deals when you can achieve the same result with 2? They do need to replace Vrbata buy why not by free agency? They also need top 4 D. Right handed preferably. The point is, the Canucks were weak on D last year. Moving their best D for a forward means that they would have to add back Edler and still add another top 4 D. I'm sorry, Hamhuis on the top line doesn't cut it for me. He has a groin issue that he's going to have to manage for the rest of his career. Signing Hamhuis is a good thing but to rely on him for top pairing is asking for trouble imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChampStatus Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 You trade Edler you have to sign one of: Keith Yandle, Alex Goligoski, Jason Demers, Kyle Quincey, John-Michael Liles or David Schlemko. In my opinions the top UFA d-men this year. Where do you put Edler in that list. Closer to the top right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 5 minutes ago, ChampStatus said: You trade Edler you have to sign one of: Keith Yandle, Alex Goligoski, Jason Demers, Kyle Quincey, John-Michael Liles or David Schlemko. In my opinions the top UFA d-men this year. Where do you put Edler in that list. Closer to the top right? Why would a team trade for Edler if they could sign Yandle, Goligosky, or Demers as UFAs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChampStatus Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 1 minute ago, Alflives said: Why would a team trade for Edler if they could sign Yandle, Goligosky, or Demers as UFAs? 2 hours ago, Yotes said: Hamhuis Tanev Hutton Tryamkin/FA signing Sbisa Tryamkin/Larsen Pedan Biega I am looking at the other side of the trade for the canucks not the side for dallas. But yes would make more since to get a UFA. On the other hand UFA always come at a price. You almost never get a deal when you sign a player in UFA. More often then not you have to over sign a player you want. But for the Canucks if they get rid of Edler the D line up will look like above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Just now, ChampStatus said: I am looking at the other side of the trade for the canucks not the side for dallas. But yes would make more since to get a UFA. On the other hand UFA always come at a price. You almost never get a deal when you sign a player in UFA. More often then not you have to over sign a player you want. But for the Canucks if they get rid of Edler the D line up will look like above. I Would love to see us trade Edler for a mid first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChampStatus Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 6 minutes ago, Alflives said: I Would love to see us trade Edler for a mid first. But then we are stuck over paying a player that may or may not be as good as Edler to make our D Line not so amazingly bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Just now, ChampStatus said: But then we are stuck over paying a player that may or may not be as good as Edler to make our D Line not so amazingly bad. Why sign a UFA? Just resign Hamhuis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChampStatus Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 1 minute ago, Alflives said: Why sign a UFA? Just resign Hamhuis. Dan Hamhis has only played 1 full season almost 2 full seasons in his 6 years in Vancouver. Hopefully he is able to play more. But his durability has been an issue. Do you think he will be able to handle a top 2 d man. playing all the mins with out getting injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 2 minutes ago, ChampStatus said: Dan Hamhis has only played 1 full season almost 2 full seasons in his 6 years in Vancouver. Hopefully he is able to play more. But his durability has been an issue. Do you think he will be able to handle a top 2 d man. playing all the mins with out getting injured. I don't care really. We need young assets of elite potential. Trading Edler should get us two kicks at the can: first the asset he returns, and second a top five pick in 2017. I actually like Edler - big and provides offense - but we need to rebuild properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintPatrick33 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Nichuskin is more valuable than Edler at this point, plus you are throwing in Eakin who is a valuable PK and 2nd 3rd liner....Right now people would buy low for Edler after the season he had. Last offseason would have been the time to trade him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 2 hours ago, Yotes said: we dont need a big bodied scoring winger? I must watch a different Canuck team than you You meant a Rw like Virtanen or how about Brock? Yep. I stand by my point. Nichuskin isn't the answer. Only way we should move edler is if it can fill a hole. Like say RHD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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