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[Trade] Canucks trade Jared McCann, 2nd-round pick, 4th-round pick to Panthers for Erik Gudbranson, 5th-round pick


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1 hour ago, playboi19 said:

Pierre McGuire murdered all the haters on TSN 1040 today. 

 

 

NIck Kypreos, Bill Waters, among others who think its a lop sided deal, and these guys despise Vancouver.

 

Pierre McGuire was bang on, in regards to were what McCann was going to do in Florida.  the clowns in TSN 1040 said "Left wing"  McQuire probably did an eye roll,  we couldn't see because it was just a baseless response, (McCann never played left wing)

 

considering what Edmonton traded for Reinhart,

 

L.A traded for Sekears

 

Dallas traded for Russell

 

our trade for Guddy44 was a steal and if the oppurtunity presents itself again for another 24 year old defencemen DONE!

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2 hours ago, playboi19 said:

Pierre McGuire murdered all the haters on TSN 1040 today. 

 

 

Tom Rowe wasn't even a scout...  Lol!!!

 

JB:  Hey Tom we'd like to take Gudbranson off your hands. We'll give you McCann and a couple of draft picks

TR:  Who's McCann?

JB:  Oh he's one of our first round picks. Projected to be a top 6 player and can easily slot over to the wing cause I know you're loaded down the middle. Don't worry I scouted him, he's a beauty. 

TR:  Okay Jim no problem, but just so it looks like I know what I'm doing I need to take a 5th off your hands as well

JB:  No problem Tom, done deal. Thanks and good luck with Jared. He's a beauty. 

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2 hours ago, playboi19 said:

Pierre McGuire murdered all the haters on TSN 1040 today. 

 

 

They just got roasted. First time I have heard Pierre on the radio but his analysis was pretty good, biased but good. You know Sekeres was fishing for him to get on the Benning Hate-Train, but he was so professional. 

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1 hour ago, Shift-4 said:

I can't agree with that. Ohlund was much further ahead with decision making and puck moving. Gudbranson bigger and tougher.

 

 

Edit:  but holy crap if Gudbranson can get there..........AWESOME

 

1 hour ago, Green Building said:

I didn't hear the specific comments you're referencing, but I'd caution anyone away from expecting 30 points out of Gubranson next season. Also, I'd say he needs to be a bit quicker with puck moving decisions to be an Ohlund.

 

Hits a bit better though ;)

I'm not saying carbon copy but I think he has more to give offensively say in the 20-25 point range at his peak. And yeah, he's even meaner ::D

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3 minutes ago, J.R. said:

 

I'm not saying carbon copy but I think he has more to give offensively say in the 20-25 point range at his peak. And yeah, he's even meaner ::D

Agreed that we haven't seen his points number at it's peak yet. :) 

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The way I see it is the Canucks (right now) don't have a ton of options for usage on the power play over Gudbranson. Edler and maybe Hutton?

 

I think he'll be given a real chance on the 2nd unit and we will see his point totals increase. He won't ever be a stud scorer but I think he will produce far more than what he did in Florida.

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1 minute ago, Shift-4 said:

Agreed that we haven't seen his points number at it's peak yet. :) 

True,. Seems like he hasn't,t  gotten to his full potential yet,. Guaranteed he will be given every opportunity to be the best that he can given our D core situation.  Excited for the size and speed we have on Defence now. Nice to have Gudbranson here to tutor Tryamkin in the art of fearlessness.

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7 minutes ago, lethunder said:

The way I see it is the Canucks (right now) don't have a ton of options for usage on the power play over Gudbranson. Edler and maybe Hutton?

 

I think he'll be given a real chance on the 2nd unit and we will see his point totals increase. He won't ever be a stud scorer but I think he will produce far more than what he did in Florida.

 

Hell, I'm thinking even Tryamkin could get a chance if just to shoot. Larsen should be ahead of them if he makes it though.

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2 minutes ago, lethunder said:

The way I see it is the Canucks (right now) don't have a ton of options for usage on the power play over Gudbranson. Edler and maybe Hutton?

 

I think he'll be given a real chance on the 2nd unit and we will see his point totals increase. He won't ever be a stud scorer but I think he will produce far more than what he did in Florida.

Florida had a stud D set up with him.. EG was primarily a PK go to,. Ekblad a primary pp go to.. Nice to be able to keep special teams "as" units.. Allowing good talent to go on fresh after a pp or PK. I'm sure Gudbranson will get many opportunities to shine with us.  Larsen, I'm hoping, is going to be the real find for us this season, his skating, and skill level looks really good. He, I beleive was quarterbacking pp's in the KHL .

im excited to see the players listed for our D core,.  Last season was gut wrenching.

Tanev Edler (hope he can get his mean streak back) Hutton Tryamkin Gudbranson Pedan Larsen Biegga

we won't be lost without Hamhuis, Bartowski might do better on a different pairing?. Not a Weber fan. 

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On 5/25/2016 at 8:46 PM, Aladeen said:

If the Canucks had been lucky enough to have drafted Gudbranson  in 2010 and we had traded him for McCann and a 2nd people would be screaming for JBs head too lol

This is exactly the case and I for one am sick and tired of all the whiner fans who are rarely happy and constantly complain that we seem to have now after struggling for a while now. Hopefully they start to suck it up or screw off and cheer for another team.

 

Anyway back to this Gudbranson trade I'm a big fan of and think Benning really helped the team overall with.

 

Seems to me one thing I don't get is all I hear is that we're giving up young talent on this trade but yet I think it's overlooked JB has done great job of drafting but also overlooked in his defense his ability of signing other good young players like Garteig and Stetcher and even guys like Laplante as well and likely more to come. Also how much room do people think there's going to be after we more than likely sign a unrestricted scoring forward and have players like Horvat, Virtanen, Boeser, Guance, Baertchi  playing now or later with the Sedins, Sutter and Hansen.

 

Anyway sure JB hasn't made all the right moves you're never going to only make good moves and not the odd bad one as a GM it's impossible but I feel we're in great hands with Benning, he's done a great job overall and I'm very excited of the Canucks future.

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Sux that we gave up McCann because he has the potential to be a dynamic centre, but wonder what this board would have done if we returned basically the same defense as last year and just exchanged some crappy parts like this team has done in the past.  There isnt much in free agency and you pay big money + term, drafting a d-man who probably won't play in the NHL for another 2-3 years at the earliest, or trading for someone at the draft while competing against other teams and their assets probably wasnt going to favour the canucks.  At least there is something in place before the draft and we know where we stand on defense.  Maybe there is a trade for one of our other d-men at the draft table that allows us to recoup the picks/prospect...who knows.  Everyone thought Edmonton's Deal for Reinhart was a great deal for Edmonton at the time, but Reinhart may not even crack their NHL lineup as a full-time NHLer or he makes it by default but isnt NHL caliber.   

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McCann's a great young talent with the upside to be a 30 goal scorer in 3 or 4 years maybe.

 

Even so, this is so obviously a grand slam home run, seems bizarre to read the naysayers whining over 100 pages, although they all seem to qualify their disapproval with the fact they all like Gudbranson..... but....his upside is limited, he provides little offence, the 2nd is over payment, he might not re-sign and if he does he'll be too expensive blahblahblah.

 

Can't believe Florida gifted us a monster RHD-man for McCann, the 33rd and switching 4&5th picks, I would have paid more. This is likely a game changing trade because it creates a cascade of opportunities to shuffle assets and priorities. It's like a shot of adrenaline into the heart of this organization.

 

Thank god JB didn't hesitate to pull the trigger on this one, it's payback for the Ballard and Booth trades in spades I might add. And it keeps Gudbranson away from our western competitors, I'll take him over the unpopular Hamilton or Reinhart.

 

Gudbranson and Tryamkin, talk about a dramatic facelift to our backend in skill, size, depth and toughness. If this new Florida boss Rowe actually made this move based on analytics he shouldn't try handicapping horse races, seems to have traded away a sure winner for a bet to show. 

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36 minutes ago, newgm said:

McCann's a great young talent with the upside to be a 30 goal scorer in 3 or 4 years maybe.

 

Even so, this is so obviously a grand slam home run, seems bizarre to read the naysayers whining over 100 pages, although they all seem to qualify their disapproval with the fact they all like Gudbranson..... but....his upside is limited, he provides little offence, the 2nd is over payment, he might not re-sign and if he does he'll be too expensive blahblahblah.

 

Can't believe Florida gifted us a monster RHD-man for McCann, the 33rd and switching 4&5th picks, I would have paid more. This is likely a game changing trade because it creates a cascade of opportunities to shuffle assets and priorities. It's like a shot of adrenaline into the heart of this organization.

 

Thank god JB didn't hesitate to pull the trigger on this one, it's payback for the Ballard and Booth trades in spades I might add. And it keeps Gudbranson away from our western competitors, I'll take him over the unpopular Hamilton or Reinhart.

 

Gudbranson and Tryamkin, talk about a dramatic facelift to our backend in skill, size, depth and toughness. If this new Florida boss Rowe actually made this move based on analytics he shouldn't try handicapping horse races, seems to have traded away a sure winner for a bet to show. 

It's going to be a fun show watching some of these "new types" managing a hockey team.  Phoenix has its new young gun too.

I can just hear the question posed ...   Q: Where did you get that idea from kid?   A:  I saw it in a movie.

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We've got to work Larsen into these predictive lineups somehow. He's someone who we need producing offense. 

 

Edler - Tanev

Hutton - Gudbranson

Tryamkin - Larsen

Biega, Pedan,  Sbisa (Hamhuis)

 

logjam on D if Hamhuis does get signed. Have to think someone else is on the move.

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With this trade, the emergence of Tryamkin, and the Larsen signing, suddenly our D doesn't look like a train wreck any more. Sure Tryamkin needs some conditioning, but having seen what is expected of him, I'm sure he is working on it right now. Actually, our D is looking more like a wrecking ball than a train wreck! 

 

Gudbranson is a huge addition, something we've been missing for a long time. His play reminds me of Willie Mitchell. He's only 24 though, and is meaner and carries a larger frame. Even if we have a logjam on defence, maybe just dress a 7th D and park Gudbranson in front of the net on the PP? He'd be really hard to move.

 

I can't see how anyone would hate this trade. We acquired a young franchise player, defender, and leader for 3 "maybe" NHL'ers.

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8 hours ago, Ossi Vaananen said:

We've got to work Larsen into these predictive lineups somehow. He's someone who we need producing offense. 

 

Edler - Tanev

Hutton - Gudbranson

Tryamkin - Larsen

Biega, Pedan,  Sbisa (Hamhuis)

 

logjam on D if Hamhuis does get signed. Have to think someone else is on the move.

If that defense pans out, just imagine if we get Stamkos up front. Oh baby. 

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15 hours ago, SilentSam said:

Very good read! Thanks SS.

 

I'm super excited to have a big mean defenceman to battle the giant forwards in the west. 

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10 hours ago, newgm said:

McCann's a great young talent with the upside to be a 30 goal scorer in 3 or 4 years maybe.

 

Even so, this is so obviously a grand slam home run, seems bizarre to read the naysayers whining over 100 pages, although they all seem to qualify their disapproval with the fact they all like Gudbranson..... but....his upside is limited, he provides little offence, the 2nd is over payment, he might not re-sign and if he does he'll be too expensive blahblahblah.

 

Can't believe Florida gifted us a monster RHD-man for McCann, the 33rd and switching 4&5th picks, I would have paid more. This is likely a game changing trade because it creates a cascade of opportunities to shuffle assets and priorities. It's like a shot of adrenaline into the heart of this organization.

 

Thank god JB didn't hesitate to pull the trigger on this one, it's payback for the Ballard and Booth trades in spades I might add. And it keeps Gudbranson away from our western competitors, I'll take him over the unpopular Hamilton or Reinhart.

 

Gudbranson and Tryamkin, talk about a dramatic facelift to our backend in skill, size, depth and toughness. If this new Florida boss Rowe actually made this move based on analytics he shouldn't try handicapping horse races, seems to have traded away a sure winner for a bet to show. 

If we don't resign EG then we lost McCann and 2nd rounder for nothing. EG will want money and also was on Florida when they were bottom of the barrel. Florida finally became good and then he gets traded to another bottom of the barrel team. Why would he want to rebuild again, why not wait for free agency and go to a more ready team. We could have easily lost this trade very badly.

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Although I'm still indifferent about this trade...

 

There are some factors to consider:

 

1- Did you see McCann when he was drafted... looked miserable.

2- Someone pointed out Reinhart/Hamilton (I know Hamilton was apparently not a locker room favourite)

3- Gudbranson is a great guy (apparently) in the dressing room and future captain material.

 

I think the big thing is having a solid locker room.  Get everyone buying into the program and working as a team.  That's how you win Stanley Cups.

 

 

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