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[Trade] Canucks trade Jared McCann, 2nd-round pick, 4th-round pick to Panthers for Erik Gudbranson, 5th-round pick


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Just now, captainhorvat said:

To be honest this trade looks like a steal when you compare it to the hall trade. McCann was no hall and never will be and you could argue that gudbranson is a better dman thn larsson.

Larsson is a better d-man than Gudbranson but Gudbranson is someone we need more of rather than Larsson mainly of his size, upside, and he's a complimentary player to Hutton or Juolevi in the future. We already have Larsson type in Tanev.

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12 minutes ago, Odd. said:

Larsson is a better d-man than Gudbranson but Gudbranson is someone we need more of rather than Larsson mainly of his size, upside, and he's a complimentary player to Hutton or Juolevi in the future. We already have Larsson type in Tanev.

Better in what capacity? I wouldn't trade EG for AL straight up, so I think it is opinion based. They are similar age but play a different style. EG will endear himself in VAN way more than AL ever could.

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7 minutes ago, Realtor Rod said:

Better in what capacity? I wouldn't trade EG for AL straight up, so I think it is opinion based. They are similar age but play a different style. EG will endear himself in VAN way more than AL ever could.

Indeed, we're going to love his presence and physicality from Hit One.

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9 minutes ago, Realtor Rod said:

Better in what capacity? I wouldn't trade EG for AL straight up, so I think it is opinion based. They are similar age but play a different style. EG will endear himself in VAN way more than AL ever could.

With Tanev, Hutton and Juolevi and even guys like Brisebois now in the pipeline, we needed a guy like Gudbranson far more than a guy like Larsson. They're both highly competent #2-3 D right now with room to grow.

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On 30/06/2016 at 5:10 PM, Odd. said:

Larsson is a better d-man than Gudbranson but Gudbranson is someone we need more of rather than Larsson mainly of his size, upside, and he's a complimentary player to Hutton or Juolevi in the future. We already have Larsson type in Tanev.

Juolevi Gudbranson

Hutton Tryamkin

 

That's a SOLID future top 4

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On ‎6‎/‎30‎/‎2016 at 1:10 PM, Odd. said:

Larsson is a better d-man than Gudbranson but Gudbranson is someone we need more of rather than Larsson mainly of his size, upside, and he's a complimentary player to Hutton or Juolevi in the future. We already have Larsson type in Tanev.

Lemme guess......based on analytics?

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1 hour ago, Hortankin said:

Juolevi Gudbranson

Hutton Tryamkin

 

That's a SOLID future top 4

And doesn't include Tanev or any of of Brisebois, Stetcher, Subban, Neil or Olson who all have varying chances of cracking top 4 in a few years. Never mind any other drafts/trades etc or likely bottom pair guys like Pedan, Sautner, Cederholm etc perhaps surprising. 

 

We'll likely be able to move some of those guys for those 'Sedin replacements' everyone keeps fretting about.

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On June 30, 2016 at 1:04 PM, Davathor said:

Don't know, don't care.

 

Analytics is for vegan hipsters

 

2 hours ago, ThaShady1 said:

What's wrong with vegan hipsters?

 

 

 

 

Just kidding. I'm barbecuing ribs as we speak. 

 

1 hour ago, nzan said:

just as long as you're not barbecuing any vegan hipsters

... I hear they're great marinated in a little beard oil ;) 

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2 hours ago, nzan said:

just as long as you're not barbecuing any vegan hipsters

 

If we had to start eating people I imagine the grain fed ones would be tastier.  Though I doubt free range hipsters would catch on as they are prone to sit in their little boxes all day long. 

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4 hours ago, PhillipBlunt said:

Lemme guess......based on analytics?

yeah. There's more too it though

 

Larsson, just like Gudbranson, is pretty good defensively, and has an offensive upside, and more of a two-way defender. Gudbranson isn't exactly going to produce you 20-30 points a season however that's not his job. His job is to defend, block shots, kill penalties, protecting our players and bringing in leadership, as well as toughness, things we don't have on our backend. When you think of a Larsson, I think of a Tanev, but Larsson brings you offense. And Larsson isn't some soft defender.

 

I'd say many view Larsson a better overall player than Guddy. Larsson is just the type of defender you need. An all-around guy. Larsson brings you a bit of everything in every single category there is, and is excellent in a few, whereas Gudbranson is more of that guy who is excellent in pretty much all defensive categories, but lacks some of the things in the offensive categories. 

 

Hopefully you get what I mean by that last sentence. I can elaborate if you want

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On 6/29/2016 at 11:57 PM, mcgillnuck said:

Larsson>Gudbranson

Hall>>>McCann

 

I like our deal more than the EDM deal just based on what they had to give up, but I still don't like either of them. Puck possession and puck movement are so important in today's NHL, and everything I've seen/read/studied on Gudbranson demonstrate that those are his weaknesses.

We needed a Gudbrandsson type player very badly. He's not a top 3 guy, he's a 4D. He's big, strong, gritty and very young. I think it's a good trade. We have Horvat as our future 2C. McCann is not a 1C and he's not a 3C. He would be best at 2C and Horvat is our guy there. 

 

Larson is a good player. He's got a tonne of potential and in hockey trades are based on potential just as much as current ability. 

 

I think based on team needs both EDM and VAN did well here. NJD did very well but it's not a lopsided loss for EDM. Hall is a great young player but EDM needed a top pairing RD. That is no easy get in today's NHL. 

 

VAN needs to draft and develop a 1C. We need him at next year's draft. EDM fills their need for top pair RD and now need to make adjustments to their roster with minor trades and maybe a big UFA signing in a year or two, like Chicago did with Hosa and let their young players develop with age and experience. 

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6 hours ago, J.R. said:

And doesn't include Tanev or any of of Brisebois, Stetcher, Subban, Neil or Olson who all have varying chances of cracking top 4 in a few years. Never mind any other drafts/trades etc or likely bottom pair guys like Pedan, Sautner, Cederholm etc perhaps surprising. 

 

We'll likely be able to move some of those guys for those 'Sedin replacements' everyone keeps fretting about.

I think if Tryamkin and Subban have a good season Hutton may be dangled for let's say a Landeskog.

 

Which looks better?

 

Juolevi Gudbranson

Hutton Tryamkin

 

Or

 

Juolevi Gudbranson

Tryamkin Subban

 

I kind of like option B more TBH. I'm really excited for this teams future. I'd take our roster over the Oilers even though they have McD.

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1 hour ago, WHL rocks said:

We needed a Gudbrandsson type player very badly. He's not a top 3 guy, he's a 4D. He's big, strong, gritty and very young. I think it's a good trade. We have Horvat as our future 2C. McCann is not a 1C and he's not a 3C. He would be best at 2C and Horvat is our guy there. 

 

Larson is a good player. He's got a tonne of potential and in hockey trades are based on potential just as much as current ability. 

 

I think based on team needs both EDM and VAN did well here. NJD did very well but it's not a lopsided loss for EDM. Hall is a great young player but EDM needed a top pairing RD. That is no easy get in today's NHL. 

 

VAN needs to draft and develop a 1C. We need him at next year's draft. EDM fills their need for top pair RD and now need to make adjustments to their roster with minor trades and maybe a big UFA signing in a year or two, like Chicago did with Hosa and let their young players develop with age and experience. 

Gudbranson is 24, 3rd OA pick, led the panthers D in playoff icetime = 4D.  

 

Larsson is 23, 4th OA pick,  but based on 'potential' = top pairing D. 

 

I think I saw a great discussion on this here: http://fans.oilers.nhl.com/community/forum/25-oilers-discussion/

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Kenny Powers said:

Gudbranson is 24, 3rd OA pick, led the panthers D in playoff icetime = 4D.  

 

Larsson is 23, 4th OA pick,  but based on 'potential' = top pairing D. 

 

I think I saw a great discussion on this here: http://fans.oilers.nhl.com/community/forum/25-oilers-discussion/

 

 

Pretty sure he's an Oilers fan.

 

All they do is think in potential rather than reality.

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2 hours ago, Odd. said:

I'd say many view Larsson a better overall player than Guddy. Larsson is just the type of defender you need. An all-around guy. Larsson brings you a bit of everything in every single category there is, and is excellent in a few, whereas Gudbranson is more of that guy who is excellent in pretty much all defensive categories, but lacks some of the things in the offensive categories. 

Perhaps, but you won't ever see Larsson do this:

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Or this:

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Or this:

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10 minutes ago, Hutton Wink said:

Perhaps, but you won't ever see Larsson do this:

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Or this:

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Or this:

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Again, two different players, two different jobs

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