GoBoGo53 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Just now, Monteeun said: Watching him play? And you watched Gudbranson play? Because when I watched him I thought he was slow and had low IQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grave Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Everyone keeps referring him as a 3rd overall (which he is), but he is actually a 1st overall of his position in the 2010 draft. Just like Schneider was in his draft. Aswell as Demko in his respected draft. Really excited about this player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmonberries Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 I hope he doesn't plan on playing defense in the NHL for another ten years without a visor. Very dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 I'm impressed. We just got a former #3 overall RHD who's 6'5", 216 lbs and is only 24. Genius. What did it cost the Canucks? A skilled lightweight C who wouldn't have really been given a top 6 spot on the team and a 2nd rounder - to an eastern team. Damn, I'm happy with this trade. Maybe now that Bieber's buddy is gone, Virtanen can focus on his game and grow up a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 9 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: Love how McCann was suddenly "never going to make it as a Canuck" as soon as he's moved in a highly questionable trade. As a Canucks fan you should know this is common. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monteeun Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Just now, GoBoGo53 said: And you watched Gudbranson play? Because when I watched him I thought he was slow and had low IQ. And how many games did you watch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 1 minute ago, Jam126 said: Funny thing is the Kesler trade is not even 2 years ago yet! That trade just continues to change shape. Now it's Kesler for Sutter, Sbisa, and Gudbranson (with pick swap). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 5 minutes ago, GoBoGo53 said: Ok, so what are the other pieces in evaluating Gudbranson as anything more than a bottom pairing d? That is because when they spend time away from each other (i.e one changes, one doesn't), Cambell actually does better without Gudbranson. Gudbranson is not garbage your hero charts are. Also, Gudbranson's job is clearing the crease Campbell's job is moving the puck. Something they did effectively as a pair. But continue posting your stupid little charts. By the way Willie Mitchell is pissed the Panthers made this deal I'd trust his judgement over a stat sheet poster any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chon derry Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 tryamkin , pedan , gudbranson > beiga, weber , bartkowski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derr12 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 I like how this d-core is starting to shape up if we can make a splash on free agency the back end is done. Little town on Mcann, I think he could be real good, or perhaps just another hodgeson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotianLifestyle Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 1 minute ago, GoBoGo53 said: Ok, so what are the other pieces in evaluating Gudbranson as anything more than a bottom pairing d? That is because when they spend time away from each other (i.e one changes, one doesn't), Cambell actually does better without Gudbranson. Did you ever consider how Gudbranson is deployed during games and actually deconstructing how he dictates the play and the presence he creates? I really don't have issues with Hero Charts, but as I said previously, its only one piece. If you really think Hero charts are the best way to evaluate a player in the most complete way possible, using one method of analysis is flawed. Its better to use a combination of methods to create the best evaluation you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBoGo53 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Just now, Monteeun said: And how many games did you watch? More than most. The advanced stats don't lie. This is a terrible trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 5 minutes ago, ScotianLifestyle said: Hero Charts are just one piece of evaluating a player. Exactly. Tell me what statistics or charts can summarize the locker room qualities that make some players captain material (EG), and some guys wallflowers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noseforthenet Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 To me, I sincerely hope there is another trade in the works. I want Jost and Fabbro. If our 1st rounder gets traded to Phoenix to make up for our high 2nd getting traded, this would make me a happy man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derp... Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 The reason Florida traded Gudbranson is because of the play of Matheson, so clearly they think this guy is or will be the better player, otherwise they could have just traded him no http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=76333 I don't understand how either side is thinking at this point hahaha... haha. baha. wah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 5 minutes ago, Ossi Vaananen said: Next year's forwards, even with McCann as an option: Sedin - Sedin - Hansen Baertschi - Horvat - Etem Virtanen - Sutter - Rodin Gaunce - Granlund - Dorsett Burrows (McCann) That's before signing a much needed UFA, from which we'll have the cash. Then you look at our future core of forwards with the 5th overall: Tkachuk/Dubois, Horvat, Virtanen, Baertschi, Boeser - that would fill in most of the top 6, with Gaunce/Granlund/Etem in the bottom 6. There wasn't room for Jared, either in next year's lineup or in the future core. But that's assuming every one of those players turns out as expected. How often does that happen? A little internal competition is always a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SergioMomesso Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 2 minutes ago, Derp... said: Yes he can fight, Dorsett will be happy he doesn't have to earn those extra contract dollars as much now. I'm just pissed today, so what ever. Gudbranson is a great shut down d man with high d zone starts, but it's the old home run swing for the double trade again. BAH! I know we will feel like we just got our Willie Mitchell back, maybe even Sami Salo, but it's just annoying losing high end skill. I hear ya. But let's be honest here. Where does McCann fit in next year or the year after? He's not a 4C guy and we can't roll into next year expecting Tryamkin to play big minutes when he can barely breath after a 50 second shift. 6'5 dmen who have played over 4 seasons before his 25th birthday don't grow on trees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzam Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Can't do everything with one trade. yes we do need more offense from the D. But that is not our only hole. Our defence is weak and it got better today. The offense will eventually come, one step at a time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Luongo Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 I love this deal. If the too soft players like the Sedins and Elder are going to be around for years in this hard tough division we needed to toughen up in a big way. With 2 beasts beasts like Trymakin and now Gudbranson these teams will have to keep their heads up and start to lay off trying the usual bullying tactics against all our softer skilled players. It couldn't be clearer over the years that when games get tough our team cowers and disappear and I was more than sick and tired of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monteeun Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 2 minutes ago, GoBoGo53 said: More than most. The advanced stats don't lie. This is a terrible trade. More than most could imply just 3 games. So...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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