Pure961089 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 57 minutes ago, nuckin_futz said: Because JB and Trevor don't think he has the jam to be an effective NHL'r. Same with Jensen and Shinkaruk. He's a pretty good judge of young talent. Virtanen, Boeser, Demko, Tryamkin. JB doesn't want soft guys. They don't think he can handle the grind and is too small. Like Jordan Schroeder. Who needs McCann when we have Cole Cassles after the monster year he had? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boddy604 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Not that upset with the price. McCann & a 2nd for a top 4 D man is a fair price. Swapping 4th and 5th round picks seems unnecessary. But whatever. Not like those will amount to anything most likely. Think this guarantees Hamhuis is gone though. Gotta wonder about Sbisa too. Do Canucks really need Gudbranson, Tryamkin, Sbisa, AND Pedan? Probably not. Especially if they still plan to bring in Larsen. Edler-Tanev Hutton-Gudbranson Tryamkin-Larsen Pedan/Biega I can live with for a d group. Don't see where Sbisa or Hamhuis would fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireGillis Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Sigh..benning must hate 2nd round picks. Another lost trade for benning. Wish someone would stop him from making trades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRick Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Also with McCann gone, does that mean the Canucks will re-sign Vey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Price aside, you gotta give credit to Benning for getting ahead of the rest of the league acquiring a D-man. This years free agency will be a feeding frenzy for a handful of good D-men. Makes you wonder what they're thinking about Edler right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SergioMomesso Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 I remember watching the 2010 Draft and the panel was raving about how Hall and Seguin hated playing against Gudbranson in the OHL. Well looks like both of them will be seeing more of EG than they want to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpt Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Just now, TheRick said: Also with McCann gone, does that mean the Canucks will re-sign Vey? Not sure why this matters, we were going to qualify him regardless. Why give players away for free when they could have a home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chon derry Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 i hate when we lose good ,but slightly small forward's, i hate it even more when we had no one counter all those good ,slightly small forwards from being demolished . 1 less small forward to worry about 1 large D.man to take out some other teams good,slightly small forwards! or big forwards! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 1 minute ago, canuckster19 said: I think it's obvious Benning wants us to become what the Bruins were in 2011, which I do not have a problem with at all. I want to be the team that manhandles, not gets manhandled. Exactly, for a while there I swear this was the softest team in the league. Our rookies get mauled, top players get speed bagged, goalies get run at. Benning is introducing some respectability. It cost them 2 big gambles in McCann and a second rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silky mitts Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Cdc always has these weird fixations over our prospects which also get massively overrated. I liked Jared alot too but it's a bit premature to be declaring him a future top 6 like it's a guaranteed deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 7 minutes ago, TheRick said: Hopefully the Canucks can find a way to resign Hamhuis and then trade Sbisa to make room for Hammer. Gudbranson is already a physical Dman and plus we already got Tryamkin and Pedan waiting in the wings, so that would make Sbisa expendable. We would need Hamhuis's veteran presence to help with the young defense! See what Edmonton will give up for Sbisa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintPatrick33 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Kypreos just said Florida got hosed in the deal, Willie Mitchell's twitter says WTF I think Benning may have stolen us a top 4 guy, only 24 years old, and is 6 5 with toughness. Hate given up McCann but hey, Defence costs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SergioMomesso Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 1 minute ago, TheRick said: Also with McCann gone, does that mean the Canucks will re-sign Vey? Vey had a waaaayy better second half than JM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 We certainly got tougher to play against with Tryamkin & Gudbranson, possibly Pedan! Awesome! Now lets see if Stecher, Larsen, Subban can bring some dangles, lead the rush, break down opposing D and jump into lanes? Add the offensive component we also need from our D! Or if we'll see another move before the year starts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brockbuster Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 He's a right shot d man. Big plus in the NHL. They're hard to find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Just now, Silky mitts said: Cdc always has these weird fixations over our prospects which also get massively overrated. I liked Jared alot too but it's a bit premature to be declaring him a future top 6 like it's a guaranteed deal And in the same sentence declare that Gubradsen will be no better than a bottom pairing D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 37 minutes ago, GoBoGo53 said: How in the world is this a good trade? Travis Yost @travisyost 31m31 minutes ago Stay at home defender Erik Gudbranson's shots against impact comparable to Jared Cowen and Nate Guenin. He's not who you think he is. 64 retweets51 likes Reply Retweet 64 Like 51 More User Actions Follow Travis Yost@travisyost And that's his supposed strength. His EV scoring rates are Adam McQuaid and Luca Sbisa. This is just lunacy. Gudbranson's shot metrics are so piss poor. They suggest he is a terrible defender. Yost is the guy that suggested a year ago that Weber (and by extension Josi) should play less because his Corsi is terrible. He failed to understand that the other Ds on Nashville were only playing in the O-zone with the top-6 scoring lines while Josi/Weber took on all the defensive assignments with the 4th line. It's a question of goal differential at the team level and not individual performance. There is no question that Josi/Weber would do better than Ekholm/Ellis offensively but Ekholm/Ellis would be buried if they had to take the defensive responsibilities of Josi/Weber. At the team level they have a better goal differential when their 1st pairing defends and the 2nd pairings goes on the offence. Hard to know about Gudbranson's offence but his zone starts are only 43% (Ekblad is at 55%). Benning talked of him being paired with Hutton so it will be interesting to see how he does in a somewhat more offensive usage - I expect Edler-Tanev to continue taking the tough D-assignments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzam Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Bennings doesn't need second round picks because he is going to find those gems in later rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 2 minutes ago, FireGillis said: Sigh..benning must hate 2nd round picks. Another lost trade for benning. Wish someone would stop him from making trades. And what will you say when we're in the playoffs and Florida's 33rd overall pick plays less than 100 games in the nhl in his career? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossi Vaananen Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 10 minutes ago, Derp... said: The reason Florida traded Gudbranson is because of the play of Matheson, so clearly they think this guy is or will be the better player, otherwise they could have just traded him no http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=76333 I don't understand how either side is thinking at this point hahaha... haha. baha. wah I don't know if they felt he was better than Gudbranson, but they felt their D coming up in McCoshen, and Matheson will give them options. Anytime you can move a forward for a young right handed D, you do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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