chon derry Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 2 minutes ago, b3. said: Also any predictions on how many times TL or JB refer to Erik as a foundational player in the upcoming interviews? every aquisition is foundational , goes without saying ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollumpus Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 5 minutes ago, yoshiyoshi said: is it just me, or does every trade JB does result in me initially thinking it is horrible until i look at it more closely, and then i realize its actually ok if not good It's actually similar to a Kubler- Ross model, with the five stages of grief thing (Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression, Acceptance). Some folks around here are so adept that it appears they can combine the first four stages into one, then completely ignore the fifth stage, and ride that high for a decade or two. regards, G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 1 hour ago, baumerman77 said: But his defense isn't that great. Tell us more about that professor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twilight Sparkle Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 1 minute ago, Down by the River said: Moronic.Nothing else to say. A guy that made the team by being further ahead in development than expected 'wasn't going to cut it'... when will you people learn to stop overrating every single player that signs here XD mccann was brutal all year long. there was nothing special about his game at all, other than a bunch of you hoping and praying that he'd be a key piece to this team's success and made every excuse you could for something he did well enough that every other player in the league did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 3 minutes ago, Down by the River said: Moronic.Nothing else to say. A guy that made the team by being further ahead in development than expected 'wasn't going to cut it'... Kinda with you here. McCaan did everything he could have to make a failing team. Was fast, feisty skilled and showed all the potential in the world. Now he's...apparently dirt. I think we should preserve some of these comments and some of those from the beginning of the season for posterity and lols Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 If they can get a reliable PP QB the D will look pretty good. Some pretty reliable guys and some sand paper. Hutton Tanev Tryamkin Gudbranson Sbisa Edler Hamhuis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Fig Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 6 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: Edler may be the one to fall. But who knows. The pressure to be the biggest physical presence on the blueline is all but gone now. Maybe Alex can concentrate on what makes his game effective. Or maybe Benning will pull another trade for the right Weber.... Edler moved would be my preference. The D is hardly a finished product here, but with Gud, Hutton and Big Try, we have 3 three great pieces here for many years. And we know plenty of cap room will be coming available year by year. There will be all kinds of options available for Jim to finish the D up within the next 24 months. It's coming together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackcanuck Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 So, Has Kesler now turned into Gudbranson, Sutter and Sbisa ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 no worries we won this trade ididnt like mccanns it is what it is comment remindedme of keslers attitude we just got a top four right handed shutdown dman finally i really think we should draft juolevi or chychrun at 5th overall our dcorp will be loaded and sedin sutter horvat granlund gaunce at center is fine for next 3 yrs we have 2-3 drafts to find a center to replace hendrik. I hope benning has a few more trades up his sleeve because we have a ton of players and some will need to be traded. thankfully this means hamhuis is gone id trade his rights at moment for a 5th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollumpus Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 2 minutes ago, FijianCanuck said: Can't believe idiots on here saying McCann wasn't going to cut it here. The guy showed he can score at the nhl level at an early age. If he adds muscle watch out. Interestingly, there were also a lot of non-idiots around here who have concerns about McCann's future. I liked the kid, but I see this as a Canuck win. regards, G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgillnuck Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Just now, canuckster19 said: Garrison is a prototypical EC d-man who showed he couldn't handle the rigors of the WC, nothing wrong with that, some players do a lot better in one conference but not the other. Was he? His first year here he was +18. The next year was the Torts fiasco. Sure Garrison went -5, but Edler went -40 and the Sedins couldn't even hit 50 points. He also never had a problem putting up points when he was here. Garrison was a very good 2nd pairing Dman who was in his 20s, and who was essentially traded for Vey. It's maybe the worst move Gillis has made so far, and he hasn't recovered from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Dizzle Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 1 minute ago, Twilight Sparkle said: when will you people learn to stop overrating every single player that signs here XD mccann was brutal all year long. there was nothing special about his game at all, other than a bunch of you hoping and praying that he'd be a key piece to this team's success and made every excuse you could for something he did well enough that every other player in the league did To be fair.... He was 19. I think Mccann will be a good player. I also think it costs to acquire young defencemen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caknuckle Puck Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 &^@# yeh our d-line is going to be huge soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 How do people think this stacks up against the Erik Johnson trade? The Blues sent Johnson (age 23), a first round pick, and McClement to the Avs for Shattenkirk, Stewart, and a 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxVerstappen33 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 1 minute ago, Gollumpus said: It's actually similar to a Kubler- Ross model, with the five stages of grief thing (Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression, Acceptance). Some folks around here are so adept that it appears they can combine the first four stages into one, then completely ignore the fifth stage, and ride that high for a decade or two. regards, G. Is HF blowing up in typical Benning era fashion ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Huh. Love to get Gudbranson, who's a tough, capable defender, but don't necessarily like to lose McCann. I don't like to lose the 2nd either, especially with it so close to a 1st, but it's not so much that was any kind of guarantee of a hot prospect. The 4th and a 5th are negligible, apart from being top of the 4th and closer to the bottom of the 5th which I don't like, but low percentage draft positions anyway. You've got to give to get, and while I always like to give less (and have certainly questioned how much we've been giving in trades under Benning) I think this is a good move for our roster. I am surprised Florida would want another center though, perhaps they see him as a potential winger for now? Now, for Gudbranson. I think he's peaked a little offensively, but he's still a big, strong defender. He can still contribute goals but isn't going to be super effective distributing the puck and could stand to make better decisions offensively. He'll play very physical though, and doesn't back down at all defensively. With him lessening the load for someone like Tryamkin, and certainly Sbisa, we'll have plenty of physical play available. Gudbranson is on a one year deal (signed at the beginning of May, still an RFA after) so we've got flexibility going forward. Can I just say I hope we have a better contract guy working for us this coming season when the subject of his re-signing comes up. I'm not sure what that means for someone like Pedan, who I think could use some more opportunity at the NHL level. He plays a similar version of the game to the three mentioned above, but this might push him down too far. I hope he gets some opportunity through injuries to show if he's ready to contribute even at a depth level. Biega, well, he's almost assuredly in Utica with Tanev, Gudbranson, Tryamkin and Larsen on the right side. Hamhuis is another question. We have less space for him, especially if we want to keep Pedan and might consider Tryamkin back on the left as well. I wasn't sure we'd bring him back but didn't want to lose his leadership. The good news is apparently Gudbranson is a big locker room guy, so maybe that helps lessen the loss and he can help bring along some of our younger D (remembering he's only 24 himself). And lastly, with the draft, I wonder how that affects Benning's decision making there. I wanted a D man even if it seemed likely we'd take Dubois. I certainly don't see us going after Chychrun now (although I didn't think he was the D Benning had referenced before anyway), and we probably don't look at a D that high any more at all. Dubious seems more certain in any case, unless he gets picked at 4th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry_Wilkins Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 YES!!! Gudbranson is EXACTLY what this team desperately needs. Size on D, and the meanness to match it. He's a defensive stud, just coming into his best years, and he'll fill a huge hole (and role) on this team. Good job, Benning! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5Fivehole0 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 My issue is, he's a UFA, what are the chances of resigning him, hopefully pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NucksRmylife Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Canucks fans need to relax and stop treating everyone of our prospects like they are the next Crosby. McCann was a good prospect but with sedin, horvat sutter and potentially Dubois next year he didn't really fit in. IF we draft Dubois, then our centers for the future looks like Dubois as #1, Horvat as #2, Sutter as #3. Yes McCann has good offensive upside and has a good chance of becoming a top 6 forward,but the Canucks BADLY needed d....please we have enough small forwards. Not to mention that Gudbranson is only 24, is 6 foot 5, a mean shut down stay at home dman, apparently a great leader and locker room presence as well. Hes just 24, a lot of Dmen don't even reach their prime's until they are at least 27-28. Not at all comparing him to Doughty but Doughty is 26 and just entering his prime....again not at all comparing to Lidstrom but he didn't win the Norris till age 30. Relax, this is a good trade...not sure why everyone hates it for the Canucks. Relax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SergioMomesso Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 1 minute ago, FijianCanuck said: Can't believe idiots on here saying McCann wasn't going to cut it here. The guy showed he can score at the nhl level at an early age. If he adds muscle watch out. I have no doubts JM will be an NHL player. Just don't see him ahead of Horvat or Sutter any time soon. And Hank still has 2 years min here. Now if he was able to outproduce Baertschi last year playing the wing while not being bounced around like a piñata. Than that might have changed my view on his expend ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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